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OT: 2013-2014 NFL Discussion Thread (Revis to Tampa for '13 1st, '14 3rd or 4th)

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There's no need to get rid of Coughlin. Yes, he's had some bad endings to seasons but I'll gladly take those two Lombardi Trophies. Anytime. Let him finish out his contract and take it from there.

This team is aging and it clearly shows. JPP is getting double/triple teamed all year because no one is scared of Tuck/Osi/Kiwi anymore and the secondary and O-Line have tremendous holes.

This offseason they need to work on rebuilding the O-Line, drafting another pass rusher, and the secondary. For WR, Randle will get better and be a bigger factor next year. Hixon makes Gaborik look like Cal Ripken so it might be time to cut him loose, and they can definitely sign a middle of the road RB.
 
Coughlin isn't the problem. We need a new OC and DC, and it's the end of the line for Webster, Diehl, Tuck, and even Bradshaw, among several others. Tynes, Weatherford, and DeOssie are the only consistent players on this team.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
Wish I could even say I was surprised at this point.

D needs some major work.
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I'd honestly settle for an OL player. How many drafts has it been since we drafted one?

I don't remember the last time the OL was able to create a hole big enough for a semi to fit. You don't fix that, then you - again- have to depend on Eli.
 
Not sure what the general mood around here has been, but that was pathetic.

At this point having Eli Manning on this team is a blessing and a curse. I love having Eli, but he's the only reason this Giants team won't be blown up or attempt a little rebuild.

Our LBers, D-backs (aside from the safety position) and O-line is complete in complete shambles. Watching Ahmad Bradshaw try to block for Eli Manning today was one of the most painful things I've ever witnessed. The fact that we needed to play Hynoski in shotgun sets is a joke. I understand that AB is playing hurt, but there wasn't even effort there.

Have their fate in their own hands and they play the way they did? Yikes. Lose Gilbride and his inability to call anything but a shotgun draw. Lose Fewell and his inability to draw up any defensive set that can stop a short pass. Go OT, LB, CB in this years draft, and let's get some ****ing young blood into the lineup and start playing with some New York Giants passion again.

That all being said, I'd still love for this team to make the playoffs... Somehow, someway. Though right now I'm convinced everything will go the Giants way on the scoreboard next week, and they'll completely **** the bed against the Eagles.

Foles - 350 yards and 4 TDs next week. Book it.
 
The Jets need a new GM. New coach. New coaching staff. Get rid of the Rex Ryan malcontents like Bart Scott. The entire roster needs to be rebuilt. They have some contracts which can't be moved until after 2013. Clean house. Get the broom and don't stop sweeping. Coples and Wilkerson are 2 bright spots on the DLine. Harris is the only keeper at LB. Maybe DeMario Davis can be a player. Cut Pace and Scott. Revis will be back but he has a contract situation coming up. Both safeties are free agents. The Jets have so many players they can cut to open up space. Sanchez and Holmes are not in that group. Sanchez has been brutal but he was dealt a lousy hand from day 1 with Tebow and Sporano. He needs a better QB coach than Cavanaugh. Besides a handful of players on offense,there are not many keepers. The Jets wanted to draft Russell Wilson in the third round last April but he went 2 picks before Davis. Terry Bradway loved him. Very sad.
 
Eli has struggled, as he often does.

But he, like Coughlin, is on this team for life.

New Coordinators are my #1 priority for next season. Get a guy in who can take advantage of our weapons in the passing game.
 
Antithesis said:
Eli has struggled, as he often does.

But he, like Coughlin, is on this team for life.

New Coordinators are my #1 priority for next season. Get a guy in who can take advantage of our weapons in the passing game.
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Seriously. Eli isn't being left alone out here. Nicks and Cruz have to be the most dangerous tandem in the game not named Welker/Gronkowski. Hixon ain't no slouch either. Our passing game should look a lot better than it does.
 
Antithesis said:
Eli has struggled, as he often does.

But he, like Coughlin, is on this team for life.

New Coordinators are my #1 priority for next season. Get a guy in who can take advantage of our weapons in the passing game.
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A new coordinator can't change the personnel on the OL. I still see what's so great about Baas. Beatty is a finesse player. Snee is getting older and isn't healthy. They're soft. They get pushed around easily. It's been shown that if you give Eli time, he makes the throws.
 
Vick will play against the Giants. Foles has a fracture in his hand.
 
The Dark Passenger said:
I think it's time for a change at the top. TC has been a great coach, and he will forever be remembered a great Giant for the two Super Bowls, but enough is enough. Clearly he and his coaching staff have lost this team. I've never seen such an uninspired Giants team, ever. I'm embarrassed to say I'm a Giants fan after their last two performances. The above stats say a lot. Not a single season where we had a winning record in the second half of the season.

Bring in Bill Cowher, cut the old/dead/decaying weight (Diehl, Webster, Tuck, and maybe even Bradshaw), and infuse this team with some young talent. Enough is enough with these second half collapses.
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Coughlin and the giants won a Super Bowl less than 11 months ago. 2 Super Bowls in less than 5 years. But yea, "enough is enough"

You come off as a typical, inpatient, "what have you done for me lately" malcontent. The top of person that gives ny sports fans a bad name. You should be forced to walk a mile in a non-giant fans shoes. Maybe it'd limit this type of nonsensical drivel.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Coughlin and the giants won a Super Bowl less than 11 months ago. 2 Super Bowls in less than 5 years. But yea, "enough is enough"

You come off as a typical, inpatient, "what have you done for me lately" malcontent. The top of person that gives ny sports fans a bad name. You should be forced to walk a mile in a non-giant fans shoes. Maybe it'd limit this type of nonsensical drivel.
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Hell, he don't have to! All of us here are Rangers fans! How many of you would take another humans life to win two Cups in five years? How about just one for the rest of your life? :laugh:
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Coughlin and the giants won a Super Bowl less than 11 months ago. 2 Super Bowls in less than 5 years. But yea, "enough is enough"

You come off as a typical, inpatient, "what have you done for me lately" malcontent. The top of person that gives ny sports fans a bad name. You should be forced to walk a mile in a non-giant fans shoes. Maybe it'd limit this type of nonsensical drivel.
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Fans of successful teams want more success. Stop whining about us being tired of TC's second half collapses that happen every year. He has refused to get rid of players he is close with even when they hurt the team. His actions, then, have hurt the team.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
A new coordinator can't change the personnel on the OL. I still see what's so great about Baas. Beatty is a finesse player. Snee is getting older and isn't healthy. They're soft. They get pushed around easily. It's been shown that if you give Eli time, he makes the throws.
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Beatty is fine. He's the only good player on the entire offensive line at this point.

I feel bad for Snee. He's had to basically play RG and RT all season when Diehl has been in the game. It's gotta be hell on his already decaying body.
 
Bob Richards said:
Seriously. Eli isn't being left alone out here. Nicks and Cruz have to be the most dangerous tandem in the game not named Welker/Gronkowski. Hixon ain't no slouch either. Our passing game should look a lot better than it does.
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The problem this season was that the both of them weren't gaining a lot of yards after their reception; Cruz has the same amount of receptions as last season, but he's almost 500 yards off pace from last season. That, and Cruz is currently second in the league with dropped passes (10).

Of the two, Nicks is the one who will dive, leap, do whatever to try to come down with the ball. Problem was Nicks lost a step due to injury.

My other qualm is why did they allow him to play so many games when it is evident he's not the same? The last breakout game he had - I think - was against the Bucs where he also got hurt again.
 
I think people need to chill just a little bit here.

We did afterall win this thing called the Superbowl less than a calendar year ago. I shouldn't be seeing the word "rebuild" in here. Not yet.
 
Jonathan. said:
Beatty is fine. He's the only good player on the entire offensive line at this point.

I feel bad for Snee. He's had to basically play RG and RT all season when Diehl has been in the game. It's gotta be hell on his already decaying body.
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Ok. But Beatty is a finesse player at a non-finesse position. And the Giants have been beaten up on both sides of the ball year.
 
Machinehead said:
I think people need to chill just a little bit here.

We did afterall win this thing called the Superbowl less than a calendar year ago. I shouldn't be seeing the word "rebuild" in here. Not yet.
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No, it's not overreacting. If they played hard consistently and lost, fine. But the haven't. There are talent, depth and age issues. They were exposed.
 
Jonathan. said:
Fans of successful teams want more success. Stop whining about us being tired of TC's second half collapses that happen every year. He has refused to get rid of players he is close with even when they hurt the team. His actions, then, have hurt the team.
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Am I whining or are you? I suggest you do some soul searching on that one. If anything, I'm lecturing.

Are you suggesting fans of teams that are not successful really aren't concerned with success?

Your argument is funny though, in both a narcissistic and sad way. That you as a giants fans, somehow has more of a right to complain due to the teams past success.
 
Hell, I just dont think this team is very good. I didn't think the team last year was any good and I'm still amazed that we won it all.
 
Bob Richards said:
Seriously. Eli isn't being left alone out here. Nicks and Cruz have to be the most dangerous tandem in the game not named Welker/Gronkowski. Hixon ain't no slouch either. Our passing game should look a lot better than it does.
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Roddy White and Julio Jones said hello!. IMO Hixon is no Manningham.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
No, it's not overreacting. If they played hard consistently and lost, fine. But the haven't. There are talent, depth and age issues. They were exposed.
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I agree with this. We need a retool not a rebuild. I am still not convinced on Bennett but that isn't top of the priority list.
 
well i dont see why anyone would want manningham back now. hes out for the year with a torn acl and pcl in his left knee. and even before that he was bothered by a shoulder injury. all those injuries are gonna ruin him. i think randle can and will do fine in his spot.
 
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