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OT: 2013-2014 NFL Discussion Thread (Revis to Tampa for '13 1st, '14 3rd or 4th)

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ImIdaho said:
I wish that was the only thing they needed: almost everyone on OL, some new DTs and DEs, and a new CB.
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Bingo. Well, I think Canty and Joseph are great DTs. But bingo otherwise.

Cut ties with one of Osi or Tuck. Bring in some fresh blood at LB and let Kiwanuka and Ojomo get some reps at DE. Start building Marving Austin and Kuhn in the middle.

The Giants better go to the podium on night one in April announcing the name of a 300+ guard or tackle. That is priority #1
 
silverfish said:
Bingo. Well, I think Canty and Joseph are great DTs. But bingo otherwise.

Cut ties with one of Osi or Tuck. Bring in some fresh blood at LB and let Kiwanuka and Ojomo get some reps at DE. Start building Marving Austin and Kuhn in the middle.

The Giants better go to the podium on night one in April announcing the name of a 300+ guard or tackle. That is priority #1
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Not even close. Team have been running up the gut against the giants with reckless abandon this season. That doesn't happen against team with good tackle play.
 
LeetchisGod said:
Not even close. Team have been running up the gut against the giants with reckless abandon this season. That doesn't happen against team with good tackle play.
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Joseph IS a great DT. Something has to be wrong with him. He was one of the best on the planet against the run last year. I'm thinking he's been injured the entire year.
 
LeetchisGod said:
Not going to happen. Reese never drafts linebackers. He doesn't seem to think it's an important position even though the best player in team history was one. :shakehead
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That same LB was a pass rushing 3-4 linebacker, though. The equivalent of a defensive end who can drop back into pass protection. Unless this team goes back to the 3-4, they won't value LBs as much as DEs. I agree with them there. However, the absolute refusal to address the position is killing the team.
 
Webster, Canty and Boley all are prepped to be replaced. High money contract and now no longer major difference makers. J. Williams is catching Boley, and fast.
 
Antithesis said:
Webster, Canty and Boley all are prepped to be replaced. High money contract and now no longer major difference makers. J. Williams is catching Boley, and fast.
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Replacing Webster and Thomas is going to be so hard in the draft. Replacing two starting CBs -- oof.

Kuhn looked solid when he got playing time. Austin needs more time to get back into the swing of things. I think they dump Canty and Bernard and go with a cheap FA pick-up along with what else they have.

I think we address the CB position before the LB/DT position. Reese loves taking skill guys early. Thinking we see 2 CBs in the first three rounds. And one DE to replace Osi and possibly Tuck.
 
Jonathan. said:
Replacing Webster and Thomas is going to be so hard in the draft. Replacing two starting CBs -- oof.

Kuhn looked solid when he got playing time. Austin needs more time to get back into the swing of things. I think they dump Canty and Bernard and go with a cheap FA pick-up along with what else they have.

I think we address the CB position before the LB/DT position. Reese loves taking skill guys early. Thinking we see 2 CBs in the first three rounds. And one DE to replace Osi and possibly Tuck.
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Is prince not as good as he can be? You would think he'd be ready to fill in one hole. Drafting a CB to fill the other hole can be good. Not sure how good/deep the pool is this year. Jets and Giants have a very similar need: OT. Giants need help on the line. Jets need a RT.

If I had to identify needs:

Giants: OL, CB, LB, RB
Jets: RT, OLB, QB, WR, S

Strengths:

Giants: QB, WR, DL, S
Jets: CB, OL, DL, MLB, RB


Hope the draft is deep. Bkth teams have their flaws that need to be fixed or uounger players to step in for aging players
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
Is prince not as good as he can be? You would think he'd be ready to fill in one hole. Drafting a CB to fill the other hole can be good. Not sure how good/deep the pool is this year. Jets and Giants have a very similar need: OT. Giants need help on the line. Jets need a RT.

If I had to identify needs:

Giants: OL, CB, LB, RB
Jets: RT, OLB, QB, WR, S

Strengths:

Giants: QB, WR, DL, S
Jets: CB, OL, DL, MLB, RB


Hope the draft is deep. Bkth teams have their flaws that need to be fixed or uounger players to step in for aging players
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When healthy, Prince has been great. He is a sure tackler and they just refuse to throw his way (a lot of that is because of how ****ing bad Webster is).

Prince fills the hole of TT, I guess. Webster's hole needs to be filled. And I would want a 3rd CB who can play well as well. I hate having two good CBs and the rest suck. I would prefer two good CBs, one JUST ABOUT AS GOOD CB, and the rest be mediocre back-ups.

Also, neither S or DL are strengths for us. Osi is gone. Canty and Bernard are likely gone. Phillips may be let go because of health reasons. Rolle is making a **** ton of money.

RB is not a major need for this team. Most of the RB issues are because of how bad the line is.
 
With Rolle, Brown, Phillips, and Hill at safety, you have to imagine one will go.

Sash, is really just a special teams player. Could get a look at linebacker maybe, fits his skill set more.

Corner is a bigger need than Defensive end, but for Webster's 9.5 million we could sign a superstar corner. Absurd paycheck he gets.

Just loosing Osi, Boley, Canty and Webster frees up more than 20 million. We need to re-tool our defense, and keep the offense more or less the same.
 
Looking good so far. Just think it's too little too late. Good to see Randle and Wilson look real good so far, guys are gonna be important members of the team next year.
 
Depressing to see what the Giants are capable of in the last week of the season.

Easily the most hot-cold team I've seen.
 
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