2009 Born for the 2025 OHL DRAFT

[oldtymehockeyguy]

Sure, every year there are 20 or so favour picks. Why didn’t you kid do a better job separating himself from the other so teams didn’t think he was at the bottom of the list and got pushed off by a 15th round favour pick. Why didn’t you kid push himself and play so he could be a 10th round pick? Easier to blame others

20 lol, and no kid involved, your too ingrained in a system that needs to change from the bottom up with ex player coach dads picking vs independent ones, it’s systemically flawed and many fight to keep it that way, sad really, for the sport and especially the kids who who don’t have connections, deserve more integrity in the process all the way up, could be a much stronger hockey country where all kids could actually have trust in the system.

 

[OHL4Life]

20 lol, and no kid involved, your too ingrained in a system that needs to change from the bottom up with ex player coach dads picking vs independent ones, it’s systemically flawed and many fight to keep it that way, sad really, for the sport and especially the kids who who don’t have connections, deserve more integrity in the process all the way up, could be a much stronger hockey country where all kids could actually have trust in the system.

your right, that was not an emotional post at all.

Let me ask you. Who have we missed that’s gone on to be amazing players over the past 10/15 years?

 

[oldtymehockeyguy]

your right, that was not an emotional post at all.

Let me ask you. Who have we missed that’s gone on to be amazing players over the past 10/15 years?

That’s the point, many who potentially could have been great, get killed off if not a phenom or connected, is by design or lack of it, it’s the way of the hockey world. All so ex players kid or connection can take away opportunity from one deserving for their own self interest, then that kid goes nowhere, while Johnny may have. When it happens at mass scale as it has it degrades the quality coming out of the system, hence many countries catching ours and no longer a clear leader as should be, who cares about that? as long as ex players kid made it a little higher than would have otherwise.

 

[OHL4Life]

That’s the point, many who potentially could have been great, get killed off if not a phenom or connected, is by design or lack of it, it’s the way of the hockey world.

I’m sorry, I’ve watched the northern team a ton, no one on that team showed the capacity to be an average OHL player outside of the top kid, and he’s 50/50 at best. If they were better players, they wouldn’t need to rely on being a 14/-5th round pick .

 

[Babs716]

That’s the point, many who potentially could have been great, get killed off if not a phenom or connected, is by design or lack of it, it’s the way of the hockey world. All so ex pro players kid or connection can take away opportunity from one deserving, then that kid goes nowhere, while Johnny may have.

Hate to break it to ya…but that’s all sports. Heck. That’s life.

 

[OHL4Life]

Hate to break it to ya…but that’s all sports. Heck. That’s life.

And this is what i don’t get. Tons of kids got drafted regardless of favours because they forced teams to take them because of how well they played.

Instead of being a 14/15th round pick your passed over. Why didn’t you do what the rest of them did and push yourself up the rankings? Easter to blame others then to say little johnny didn’t do enough.

 

[Wolfman Jack]

With all the back and forth being said about players who should have been drafted ahead this kid or politics played a part in kids getting selected instead of those who didn’t. Who are some of the names that people thought would have been selected yesterday that were on some scouting lists?

WJ

 

[bigdog16]

With all the back and forth being said about players who should have been drafted ahead this kid or politics played a part in kids getting selected instead of those who didn’t. Who are some of the names that people thought would have been selected yesterday that were on some scouting lists?

WJ

Del Priore, Santa Maria, Flory were all guys I thought would be taken in the first few rounds. All went undrafted surprisingly.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

There is an ever declining self-awareness in this world.

Fortunately, we do get to celebrate the Cirelli’s & Mangiapane’s for their resiliency; and rightfully so. They all endured that step of the journey too.

If you’re passionate and competitive enough; you will earn your opportunities in hockey (and in life).

If you’re good enough they’ll find you. U18 or school route. If you want it bad enough you’ll make it and accomplish your hockey dreams. If the talent and character lacks, oh well, move on.

 

[OHL4Life]

Here’s another thing and I’m not suggesting a player mentioned is in this issue. But if a player has been on 4 teams in 4 years and every coach said that no matter how skilled the kid is the kid would never buy in and the dad would never stop trying to interfere. OHL teams probably wont roll the dice.

 

[OHL4Life]

With all the back and forth being said about players who should have been drafted ahead this kid or politics played a part in kids getting selected instead of those who didn’t. Who are some of the names that people thought would have been selected yesterday that were on some scouting lists?

WJ

would love to see this as well

 

[OMG67]

The U-18 draft was specifically introduced to give players that weren’t drafted as 16 year olds and opportunity as 17 year olds because they matured later. Of course, this is only open to the U-18 players but if you are a good enough player to play JrA or JrB as a 16 year old undrafted player, then you will be on scouts radar for free agent opportunities and training camp invites the following year.

It is not like the OHL Priority Selection is the be all and end all. There are two additional opportunities available in the future to get on the radar. Head down, push forward.

 

[OHL4Life]

The U-18 draft was specifically introduced to give players that weren’t drafted as 16 year olds and opportunity as 17 year olds because they matured later. Of course, this is only open to the U-18 players but if you are a good enough player to play JrA or JrB as a 17 year old undrafted player, then you will be on scouts radar for free agent opportunities and training camp invites the following year.

It is not like the OHL Priority Selection is the be all and end all. There are two additional opportunities available in the future to get on the radar. Head down, push forward.

And to this point ther have been some maybe 1/2 decent U18 picks a year, but not really must to suggest that we are missing a significant amount of players.

 

[OMG67]

And to this point ther have been some maybe 1/2 decent U18 picks a year, but not really must to suggest that we are missing a significant amount of players.

And I think that is the point. I think 15 rounds is likely too many rounds. I think it opens the door for shenanigans. It is rare for players picked between the 10th and 15th rounds to play and far less of a chance they play a meaningful role. Maybe picking less players as 16 year olds make the following U-18 draft more meaningful. If you only get 10 picks instead of 15, they become more valuable as well. They would be treated as such.

 

[OMG67]

would love to see this as well

In fairness, the argument being presented is less about what players deserved to be drafted. It is about what players “seemingly” didn’t deserve to be drafted. I can understand that stance but you never really know what the deal is. Could it be money? Sure. But, it could be a favour that pays off in the future. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. It is part of building out a network. Favours are part of the process. Favours aren’t strictly nepotism. Many are strategic.

 

[DCruickshank]

With the new NCAA rules...does the u18 become a mute point...meaning no roster spots for those players?

 

[OHL4Life]

With the new NCAA rules...does the u18 become a moot point...meaning no roster spots for those players?

Yes

 

[OHL4Life]

In fairness, the argument being presented is less about what players deserved to be drafted. It is about what players “seemingly” didn’t deserve to be drafted. I can understand that stance but you never really know what the deal is. Could it be money? Sure. But, it could be a favour that pays off in the future. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. It is part of building out a network. Favours are part of the process. Favours aren’t strictly nepotism. Many are strategic.

For sure, I guess I don’t get whining about it when honestly all they are doing is knowing 30 or so kids out of the draft that would have been 14/15 round picks anyways.

it’s an amazing g culture that seems to exist where instead of telling your kid to do better, you find an excuse to tell him her still great, when in reality, non of it matters anyways

 

[OMG67]

For sure, I guess I don’t get whining about it when honestly all they are doing is knowing 30 or so kids out of the draft that would have been 14/15 round picks anyways.

it’s an amazing g culture that seems to exist where instead of telling your kid to do better, you find an excuse to tell him her still great, when in reality, non of it matters anyways

Exactly. The reality is, if you are not a top 8 round pick, the odds are significantly stacked against you anyway. The only thing you can do is do what the kids in the top 8 rounds do. Work your ass off. It doesn’t matter if you get picked high, picked low, or not picked at all. Just keep working your ass off. If you are good, your work will pay off. If you are not good, you build a work ethic you carry with you for the rest of your life.

 

[dirty12]

With the new NCAA rules...does the u18 become a mute point...meaning no roster spots for those players?

Probably not as there is a larger pool to choose from, particularly prep schools. There will likely not be as many 17 & 18 yr olds selected in the OHL draft in future years.
It is open to any U18 not playing jr, right?

 

[HockeyPops]

What hasn't been spelled out is if 20 teams have passed on you 14 times each, you are not ready to play. Teams have to look for kids who are poised for the greatest improvement. In that department, it's tough to beat a kid whose dad was a pro and the kid grew up watching how much work went into getting there and staying there.

 

[OHL4Life]

What hasn't been spelled out is if 20 teams have passed on you 14 times each, you are not ready to play. Trams have to look for kids who are poised for the greatest improvement. In that department, it's tough to beat a kid whose dad was a pro and the kid grew up watching how much work went into getting there and staying there.

Exactly. If they’ve passed on you that many times, your not as good as you think and either or not the picked you a 15th time, the end result in 2 years is going to be the same.

 

[OHL4Life]

What hasn't been spelled out is if 20 teams have passed on you 14 times each, you are not ready to play. Trams have to look for kids who are poised for the greatest improvement. In that department, it's tough to beat a kid whose dad was a pro and the kid grew up watching how much work went into getting there and staying there.

Exactly. If they’ve passed on you that many times, your not as good as you think and either or not the picked you a 15th time, the end result in 2 years is going to be the same

 

[ohloutsider]

Exactly. If they’ve passed on you that many times, your not as good as you think and either or not the picked you a 15th time, the end result in 2 years is going to be the same

Noah Morneau was a 15th round pick. Occasionally there is one that does not fit inside the box.

 

[BobbyStokers9713]

Noah Morneau was a 15th round pick. Occasionally there is one that does not fit inside the box.

I have a guy who went 15th round that may turn into a playee- Cole Crawford to Kitchener. 5'10 currently, if he were to grow 2 inches he is fairly smart a good skater and a right handed shot.