Proposal: 1st OA for 2nd OA

[gary559]

So to be clear, you think the Sharks should do your original post? You think that would be a good trade for us?

Honestly yes.

 

[M88K]

Islanders can turn around real fast and build a foundation, Sharks need a defenseman not a center.

William Eklund
2nd OA

For
1st OA

Why would the Sharks do this?

 

[Juxtaposer]

Honestly yes.

So the fact that every single non-Isles fan in this thread thinks it's absolutely horrendous for the Sharks doesn't mean anything to you?

 

[Skeksis25]

At the most, I would add the Dallas 1st or Chernyshov to the 2OA to move up to 1. There is no way, I'm adding Eklund. Eklund could well be trade bait at some point, but not for this return. Schaefer would be a great fit on the Sharks, but Eklund+Misa > Schaefer. Eklund is the only established top 6 guy we have other than Celebrini and it would be silly to get rid of him, when we need more top 6 forwards.

 

[gary559]

So the fact that every single non-Isles fan in this thread thinks it's absolutely horrendous for the Sharks doesn't mean anything to you?

History has proven you always need to overpay to move up in the draft

 

[Juxtaposer]

History has proven you always need to overpay to move up in the draft

Are you sure about that? Because that's not what history shows when you actually look at it:

this valuation is WAY off. The last time the #1 was traded it was to move down to #3 and that deal ended up only being the #3, a 2nd, and Mikael Samuelsson for the #1 and a 3rd. That's a lot closer to say Nikolai Kovalenko being the other piece coming from San Jose value wise.

 

[Gecklund]

History has proven you always need to overpay to move up in the draft

What history? Also a young top 6 winger is more than just an overpay

 

[Bizz]

History has proven you always need to overpay to move up in the draft

the Sharks essentially traded 1OA in 1998 for 3OA and a 2nd rounder.

Chernyshov and Eklund are worth far more than a 2nd rounder.

 

[StrawHatEklund]

At the most, I would add the Dallas 1st or Chernyshov to the 2OA to move up to 1. There is no way, I'm adding Eklund. Eklund could well be trade bait at some point, but not for this return. Schaefer would be a great fit on the Sharks, but Eklund+Misa > Schaefer. Eklund is the only established top 6 guy we have other than Celebrini and it would be silly to get rid of him, when we need more top 6 forwards.

Agreed. Other than maybe being willing to also take back a bad contract, I wouldn't add more than the Dallas 1st or Chernyshov. I rather take Misa and roll with it for anything significantly more.

 

[WSS11]

At the most, I would add the Dallas 1st or Chernyshov to the 2OA to move up to 1. There is no way, I'm adding Eklund. Eklund could well be trade bait at some point, but not for this return. Schaefer would be a great fit on the Sharks, but Eklund+Misa > Schaefer. Eklund is the only established top 6 guy we have other than Celebrini and it would be silly to get rid of him, when we need more top 6 forwards.

I wouldn’t even add Chernyshov. I’d gladly draft Misa and reunite the two. Dallas 1st is about the limit imo. Schaefer is ideal for SJ due to need but Misa has an elite 1C ceiling. It’s not that big of a gap.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I wouldn’t even add Chernyshov. I’d gladly draft Misa and reunite the two. Dallas 1st is about the limit imo. Schaefer is ideal for SJ due to need but Misa has an elite 1C ceiling. It’s not that big of a gap.

I would offer up the Dallas 1st and a B prospect like Halttunen to get it done. Definitely not Chernyshov. Gun to my head, I'd probably do Mukhamadullin much as I love him.

 

[Patty Ice]

If it's the Dal 1st but they need it a little sweeter, I would offer Ott 2nd round nothing more than that.

I'll take Misa if it needs to be richer.

 

[WSS11]

I would offer up the Dallas 1st and a B prospect like Halttunen to get it done. Definitely not Chernyshov. Gun to my head, I'd probably do Mukhamadullin much as I love him.

I’m ok with a B prospect (Halts, Lund, Bystedt) but I wouldn’t include Muhk. I get Schaefer’s ceiling is incredibly high but we just are too thin at D to throw Muhk in there when he’s showing signs that he can be a very good top 4 dman. I’d take Misa at that point.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I’m ok with a B prospect (Halts, Lund, Bystedt) but I wouldn’t include Muhk. I get Schaefer’s ceiling is incredibly high but we just are too thin at D to throw Muhk in there when he’s showing signs that he can be a very good top 4 dman. I’d take Misa at that point.

Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely hate to do it, but I would if that was what it took.

 

[SML2]

This year will be the 39th time I have followed the NHL draft. In that time I have learned this:

NHL scouts are lazy. But not nearly as lazy as people writing about the NHL draft.

I have never heard a scout go on record saying that this is not a good draft. It's always full of sure things and can't miss prospects.

When you read about these prospects, they will almost always say player x reminds them of whomever just had the best playoff series.

The years the draft is good, you have been hearing about the player who is number one for at least 2 years. If he's not a household name, there's a reason.

I hate the Islanders, but the truth is that they are not a single player away from contention, and even if they were, that player, IMO, is not in the board. They need alot of stuff. I would entertain trading this pick for as big a ransom as possible. It's found money. You weren't expecting it anyway. See if you can trade back and stay in the top 5. To me there's no clear front runner.

If not, take Hagens.