#1OA Juraj Slafkovsky - Huge Disappointment

[Frederixx]

Slaf was never drafted to be a Patty kane. If he can be a 70pts power foward, I’ll be happy. It sucks we drafted first OV that year and not a year with a Celibrini, Bedard…I guess it’s the karma for 24 cups!

The same karma that gave you Hutson with a late 2nd round pick? In a re-draft, he's probably the 1st OV..

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

1st overalls have been pretty mid for a long time now.

lol seriously?

Within the last 10 years: McDavid, Matthews, Dahlin, Jack Hughes, Bedard, Celebrini - all legit stars.

Lafreniere and Slafkovsky are the only mid - maybe Owen Power.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

lol seriously?

Within the last 10 years: McDavid, Matthews, Dahlin, Bedard, Jack Hughes, Bedard, Celebrini - all legit stars.

Lafreniere and Slafkovsky are the only mid - maybe Owen Power.

Bedard is great but doesn't deserve to be on the list twice imo

 

[Maitz]

Juraj is recently playing way better because he noticed he is not Suzuki or Caufield in the way that he doesn't have their skills. He should focus on giving the puck to them and position himself near the net, move his feet a lot and finish his checks, he will have plenty of opportunities to finish plays and set them up. I still think he has 70 pts potential with powerforward upside. At 20 years old most of the prospect are in college or AHL.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Juraj is recently playing way better because he noticed he is not Suzuki or Caufield in the way that he doesn't have their skills. He should focus on giving the puck to them and position himself near the net, move his feet a lot and finish his checks, he will have plenty of opportunities to finish plays and set them up. I still think he has 70 pts potential with powerforward upside. At 20 years old most of the prospect are in college or AHL.

This is correct

A guy his size should own the front of the net and be a deflection machine

 

[wetcoast]

It’s blatantly unreasonable to think a 20 years old not even close to his peak years, who already has a 50 points season is gonna develop to be better than he is right now?


You just did, for a 3rd time in your last post.

You think it’s ‘’blatantly unreasonable’’ to think he is gonna get better than he is now.

This really doesn't matter, someone called him a 50 point guy, that would mean he would be excepted to hit 50 points this year, which is unlikely.

It's just a factual statement as to what the guy is now, nothing more nothing less.

 

[SlafySZN]

This really doesn't matter, someone called him a 50 point guy, that would mean he would be excepted to hit 50 points this year, which is unlikely.

It's just a factual statement as to what the guy is now, nothing more nothing less.

I don’t see how it is unlikely for him to get at least 15 points in his next 21 games.

 

[wetcoast]

I don’t see how it is unlikely for him to get at least 16 points in his next 21 games.

Past performance?

I'm not saying that he can't do it but it's more accurate to call a guy that what he does most years, instead of a peak year.

Of course his being young seem to be making that difficult for people to see.

Let's put this another way, is Austin Matthews a 70 goal scorer?

Do we expect that year in and year out?

No, he is a guy who has scored 70+ once but it's more accurate to call him a 50+ goalscorer going into next season (assuming health) given his age and previous goal scoring rates.

 

[SlafySZN]

Past performance?

I'm not saying that he can't do it but it's more accurate to call a guy that what he does most years, instead of a peak year.

Of course his being young seem to be making that difficult for people to see.

Let's put this another ay, is Austin Matthews a 70 goal scorer?

Do we expect that year in and year out?

No, he is a guy who has scored 70+ once but it's more accurate to call him a 50+ goalscorer going into next season (assuming health) given his age and previous goal scoring rates.

He literally scored 50 points last year in his first full year.

Past performance shows he is unlikely to do it again this year?

His only full season in the league at 19 was his peak year?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Past performance?

I'm not saying that he can't do it but it's more accurate to call a guy that what he does most years, instead of a peak year.

Of course his being young seem to be making that difficult for people to see.

Let's put this another ay, is Austin Matthews a 70 goal scorer?

Do we expect that year in and year out?

No, he is a guy who has scored 70+ once but it's more accurate to call him a 50+ goalscorer going into next season (assuming health) given his age and previous goal scoring rates.

Matthews scored 69 goals last year, never 70+

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

lol seriously?

Within the last 10 years: McDavid, Matthews, Dahlin, Jack Hughes, Bedard, Celebrini - all legit stars.

Lafreniere and Slafkovsky are the only mid - maybe Owen Power.

pretty big drop-off after Matthews nine years ago. none of them superstars

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Past performance?

I'm not saying that he can't do it but it's more accurate to call a guy that what he does most years, instead of a peak year.

Of course his being young seem to be making that difficult for people to see.

Let's put this another ay, is Austin Matthews a 70 goal scorer?

Do we expect that year in and year out?

No, he is a guy who has scored 70+ once but it's more accurate to call him a 50+ goalscorer going into next season (assuming health) given his age and previous goal scoring rates.

He's only played 2.5 seasons to date of which he tallied 50 points last year when healthy. Current performance says he can eclipse 50pts. Especially playing shotgun with Suzuki who is on fire.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Second half Slaf is real

Big train takes some time to get moving.
Looking great out there since the break

 

[HabsForHire]

Second half Slaf is real

Big train takes some time to get moving.
Looking great out there since the break

I like how he's stepping up again in the 2nd half, but next year the train needs to be going from game one

 

[japhi27returns]

Oh my f***ing god. He's literally on pace for 47 points in his third NHL season. It's not up to me to prove he's not going to do more than that. It's up to you to convince everyone he's going to exceed that.

I'm not writing him off, but it's blatantly unreasonable at this point to assume he's going to be better just cuz he's a #1OA.

Have no interest in a back and forth on this, and don’t believe you are actually interested in talking hockey, just doing the boring and predictable tribal thing.

But the reasonable argument for him improving past this year is the development path of players this size. He’s an absolute unit - played as a 19yo at 230+ - and there are lots of examples of guys his size having issues with time and space. Guys that had worse 19/20 yo seasons that are in the HOF. You can do your own research on that.

And if you actually watch the games, you see glimpses of what could be. He had a shift today where he beat the icing, basically smashed the defenders down low and controlled the puck generating multiple scoring chances. And played at a ppg for 30 games last year in his early 20s - he just turned 21 last week.

So ya, pretty boring to describe what he is today as if it matters. While we are at it, making declarations that don’t matter, as of today he is the most productive player from his draft class.

 

[Bouboumaster]

He needs to do what he's doing right now, but all the time

 

[carjackmalone]

Let’s see, a big kid that has a decent year and follows it up with a dip in production. Odd, never saw that before in hockey history. He should have progressed to a 80+ point player with no bumps in the road, just pure straight line trajectory to the top of the point charts. Habs should see if they could get a 2nd round pick for him but it seems he’s already busted so I guess they’re stuck with him. Some of the takes in these threads makes me wonder if some posters just started watching games or just troll for shits and giggles knowing full well that it’s way too early to determine what any of these young players will turn out to be. He’s 20 for f*** sake

We all used to call it the Sophmore Slump back in the day

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I like how he's stepping up again in the 2nd half, but next year the train needs to be going from game one

Train was going out of the station as he had 8 pts in his first 9 games playing with CC & Nuke then coaching staff f***ed it up trying to get Dach going

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

6 points in his last 6 games. Next year, I expect around 60 points. He will be fine.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

45 or 50. Either way he’s very disappointing for a 1OA. Habs should trade him for Lafreniere.

Yeah, let's trade him for an older player, struggling even more, while riding on Panarin's coattail...

 

[SlafySZN]

Yeah, let's trade him for an older player, struggling even more, while riding on Panarin's coattail...

Yeah but Lafreniere had a breakout season with 57 points at 22 years old last year while 19 years old Slaf was a bust with 50 points!

Funny how things work

 

[MXD]

This really doesn't matter, someone called him a 50 point guy, that would mean he would be excepted to hit 50 points this year, which is unlikely.

It's just a factual statement as to what the guy is now, nothing more nothing less.

I guess that makes Elias Petterson not a 50-pts player as well.

 

[FerrisRox]

He CANT get better!!! You conviced me bro with your argumentative. Stats are what they are and he won’t get better over time! It took time but I get it now.

I love that he keeps claiming "stats are stats" and then calls Slafkvosky a "45 point winger."

You would think if you were talking about a player who's only played one complete season in his NHL career, that if "stats were stats" the stats he posted in that one complete season would be a a big part of the argument.

Strangely, they are not. Instead, the "stats are stats" guy thinks the best representation of the statistics of the player who has only played one complete season in the NHL is not the stats he posted in that one complete season.

Gee, I wonder why that is?

This really doesn't matter, someone called him a 50 point guy, that would mean he would be excepted to hit 50 points this year, which is unlikely.

I think he is literally on a pace to score 50 points right now.

You think its likely that he slows down his pace and gets worse as the season goes on?

 

[CTHabsfan]

I like how he's stepping up again in the 2nd half, but next year the train needs to be going from game one

Maybe someone can start a "Slaf is a bust"thread early next season. His game always seems to pick up once that happens.

 

[LaP]

This really doesn't matter, someone called him a 50 point guy, that would mean he would be excepted to hit 50 points this year, which is unlikely.

It's just a factual statement as to what the guy is now, nothing more nothing less.

He's on a 48 points in 79 games pace, I would not call that unlikely.