Proposal: 1LD to Buffalo

[is the answer jesus]

Thats the thing...Edmonton needed a top 4 dman and very few were available. The market varies from deal to deal. Given how good Edmonton looks....thats a deal that seemed to work out. Sometimes you have to pay to get the players you want. Sure you can refuse to overpay, but you may never fill a hole.

Completely valid point. I guess I'm a little more patient than most Sabres fans. It's not like we've been a doormat year in and year out like the Oilers were. We had 2 bad years in a row got 2 key cogs in Eichel and Reinhart and took a reasonable step forward last year. While that top 4 LHD or even better that top pair LHD is probably our biggest need it doesn't mean we have to have it immediately. See how this season plays out and what becomes available. This expansion draft could cause a couple guys to potentially shake loose. If we have to draft and develop a guy so be it. We aren't so overstocked at forward that we should be making a trade in desperation that clearly favors the other team.

 

[herashak]

We would need contributing roster players

How good is fasching? Maybe add Bouma

 

[is the answer jesus]

What about Reinheart (with modifications, if needed) for Jonas brodin.

No. I can't think of any realistic deal involving Reinhart to Minnesota. Brodin, Scandella, etc are guys I like a lot, but not at that price. If the rumors this offseason were true Murray felt the same way.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I'm sure Buffalo would trade for the right deal. But it would have to be the right deal. Like a Trouba or Rielly type guy coming back.

I was thinking maybe Scandella.

I wouldn't say he's some sacred cow or anything, but his speed and skill are something we sorely lack. If we're talking about Brodin or Scandella in return, the value is close, but i'd rather just keep Nylander.

Fair enough

What about Reinheart (with modifications, if needed) for Jonas brodin.

Brodin appears to be turning a corner this year and Buffalo shouldn't think about trading Reinhart.

 

[A1LeafNation]

What team doesn't want to give away a first pairing dman lol. Especially for svraps.

 

[DJN21]

What team doesn't want to give away a first pairing dman lol. Especially for svraps.

3 franchise players were excluded leaving all 1sts, Reinhart and others available in discussion...your user name shows your interest in the thread...nice try.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

How good is fasching? Maybe add Bouma

I'm a Flames fan, I mean we don't need any of the prospects/pick offered for Gio

 

[lanceuppercut75]

(disclaimer) I'm not a fan of VAN or BUF.

This is a deal that might appeal to Jim Benning. Lots of meat and potatoes. Not so sure about Canucks fans.

EVANDER KANE
JOSH GORGES
William Carrier
BUF 1ST Round Pick (conditional)

for

ALEX BURROWS (expiring cap dump)
ALEX EDLER

Conditions - 1st round pick is 2017 BUF 1ST...
...unless that pick becomes a top 10 pick...
...in which case it converts to 2018 BUF 1ST

 

[AustonsNostrils]

If Murray were to contemplate trading Reinhart he'd probably get the best value from Vancouver. Benning tried to trade with Florida to get their 1st overall pick in 2014 to take Reinhart, a hometown boy.

Reinhart <----> Tanev

Stecher looks great, they have Gudbranson, Hutton, Edler, Juolevi coming.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

(disclaimer) I'm not a fan of VAN or BUF.

This is a deal that might appeal to Jim Benning. Lots of meat and potatoes. Not so sure about Canucks fans.

EVANDER KANE
JOSH GORGES
William Carrier
BUF 1ST Round Pick (conditional)

for

ALEX BURROWS (expiring cap dump)
ALEX EDLER

Conditions - 1st round pick is 2017 BUF 1ST...
...unless that pick becomes a top 10 pick...
...in which case it converts to 2018 BUF 1ST

Edler is 30 and looking it. I'd trade Kane straight up for Edler, Buffalo throws in a 3rd rounder.

 

[10coach*]

Something around Ryan Murray for Sam Reinhart?

Will "one up" ya with Scandella for Reinhart. Though I know the Wild don't really want to trade him.

 

[OneBuffalo]

I will never understand why Sabres fans are so eagerly willing to trade Sam Reinhart. IMHO, he's an un touchable along with Eichel, O'Reilly, and Risto. I'd be willing to trade this years first, NYLANDER, and someone like Fasching for a LHD.

 

[SnoopDogg]

Something around Ryan Murray for Sam Reinhart?

It's a start, but I'd want to move Reinhart for a lot more than that

 

[SnoopDogg]

(disclaimer) I'm not a fan of VAN or BUF.

This is a deal that might appeal to Jim Benning. Lots of meat and potatoes. Not so sure about Canucks fans.

EVANDER KANE
JOSH GORGES
William Carrier
BUF 1ST Round Pick (conditional)

for

ALEX BURROWS (expiring cap dump)
ALEX EDLER

Conditions - 1st round pick is 2017 BUF 1ST...
...unless that pick becomes a top 10 pick...
...in which case it converts to 2018 BUF 1ST

Not bad, but even though Gorges is pretty bad, I don't think Buffalo wants to lose a LHD to upgrade to another LHD, but that's just me

 

[TwiztedHeat]

Will "one up" ya with Scandella for Reinhart. Though I know the Wild don't really want to trade him.

This is terrible for BUF

 

[willyjones]

I will never understand why Sabres fans are so eagerly willing to trade Sam Reinhart. IMHO, he's an un touchable along with Eichel, O'Reilly, and Risto. I'd be willing to trade this years first, NYLANDER, and someone like Fasching for a LHD.

Not sure of views on Gardiner, but I think we could replace Gardiner internally in next couple seasons. Problem is leafs need a top 4 rhd in return, but both cylinders playing together is pretty tempting. Yes I know Gardiner is not a number 1 id say he's closer to a number 3. I just can't see anybody in the league offering up a true number 1 d

 

[stokes84]

Something around Ryan Murray for Sam Reinhart?

I want to sit on this one. I really just don't want to flip Sam before we get to see him with Jack this year. That said, this is definitely worth consideration.

How does Buffalo value Nylander?

A lot. We have a slow and unskilled team. He is the only player that brings a speed/skill combo other than Eichel.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Marc Staal. Been good so far but he makes alot of money

 

[NotYou]

What team doesn't want to give away a first pairing dman lol. Especially for svraps.

Op didn't offer scraps. Reinhart and what will probably be a high first rounder are on the table. He's not a leafs fan

Brodin for reinhart would make me giddy but it's not a good deal for buffalo.

 

[57special]

This is terrible for BUF

Terrible is an exaggeration. Wild would need to add more, but not THAT much more. In my limited viewings of Reinhart, I haven't been knocked out by him. I don't think he is the elite #1C in the making that the Wild want so badly. Weird that he will be the 3rd best C on BUF.

 

[stokes84]

Terrible is an exaggeration. Wild would need to add more, but not THAT much more. In my limited viewings of Reinhart, I haven't been knocked out by him. I don't think he is the elite #1C in the making that the Wild want so badly. Weird that he will be the 3rd best C on BUF.

He may not become the elite #1 center that you are looking for, but that's how the Sabres should value him in a trade, because he very well may be in time. And he's Buffalo's 3rd best center because of circumstance. ROR is a top 10 center in the league right now and Eichel is our best prospect since Perreault. That shouldn't be the knock on Reinhart.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

Terrible is an exaggeration. Wild would need to add more, but not THAT much more. In my limited viewings of Reinhart, I haven't been knocked out by him. I don't think he is the elite #1C in the making that the Wild want so badly. Weird that he will be the 3rd best C on BUF.

If that trade went down, it would be highway robbery by the Wild. I mean, yeah I'd love it but it's very far from fair value.

 

[haseoke39]

So far I'm hearing Scandella, Brodin, Murray, Tanev, Edler as targets.

That's not a bad list.

I'm just gonna put this out there to the universe: Board, if you had to pick one of these guys to play big defensive minutes, who would be at the top of the list? I don't watch everyone else's games, but Tanev comes with perhaps the strongest reputation for smart defensive play of the guys listed, AFAIK.

 

[10coach*]

If that trade went down, it would be highway robbery by the Wild. I mean, yeah I'd love it but it's very far from fair value.

You Wild fans severely underrate your players. Kind of refreshing honestly.

 

[Wabit]

So far I'm hearing Scandella, Brodin, Murray, Tanev, Edler as targets.

That's not a bad list.

I'm just gonna put this out there to the universe: Board, if you had to pick one of these guys to play big defensive minutes, who would be at the top of the list? I don't watch everyone else's games, but Tanev comes with perhaps the strongest reputation for smart defensive play of the guys listed, AFAIK.

Brodin
Murray-upside
Scandella
Edler

Tanev is RHS so not sure if you want to play him on his offhand side. If so I'd have him right with Murray.

All of the guys are good and not a huge amount of separation. So I used age as the deciding factor.