Tim Vezina Thomas
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Apples to oranges. Bruins let him burn a year because he was signing as a free agent. McAvoy is Bruins property.
Prospect Info: #14 Overall Charlie McAvoy
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Apples to oranges. Bruins let him burn a year because he was signing as a free agent. McAvoy is Bruins property.
Yeah, I'd keep him in Providence. Don't rule out Boston, as Sweeney said, but that's an extreme. No need to rush him, make a poor first impression, and shred his confidence.
Have the plan be for him to start as "the guy" on D next year in Providence and be the first call-up. If he excels in training camp, give him a shot a la Carlo. I think we have a real steal in this kid, don't want to rush him. To even be CONSIDERED for an NHL role at 19 is extremely impressive and bodes well for his future.
Have the plan be for him to start as "the guy" on D next year in Providence and be the first call-up. If he excels in training camp, give him a shot a la Carlo. I think we have a real steal in this kid, don't want to rush him. To even be CONSIDERED for an NHL role at 19 is extremely impressive and bodes well for his future.
RussellmaniaKW
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so if he plays in the NHL this year does that burn a year of his ELC? Some are saying yes but I thought I read that due to his age he wouldn't burn a year. Can anyone confirm either way?
Bmessy
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Glad he signed. I love how every person and their mother is like, "but will they burn a year off his ELC???!". I don't care, if he deserves to play in the NHL he deserves to play. He should start in the AHL though, and if he tears it apart then we have a decision to make.
Also, I hope that JFK is stuck in a final at school while McAvoy is playing pro hockey and gets jealous, then signs.
Also, I hope that JFK is stuck in a final at school while McAvoy is playing pro hockey and gets jealous, then signs.
riverhawkey91
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This question is answered on almost every one of the last 10 pages of this thread.
Finals for BU aren't for another 2 months. I don't think it's a timing thing for JFK, it sounds more like he's stuck deciding whether to come back or turn pro.
As for the bolded, I think everyone would agree there...but if he is good enough to play in the NHL, do you really want to waste of whole year of him being signed at $900K for 6 or so games in the NHL?
Mainehockey33
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If we make the playoffs and he's lighting it up in Providence that's when the decision comes. It's not about him burning a year to play a few regular season games, they won't do that. They'll bring him up only if they think he gives us a better shot in the playoffs imo.
PlayMakers
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Have to say, that's well done by Sweeney.
ATO means all ELC years preserved, and McAvoy will get some pro experience similar to Carlo and Werenski. Best case scenario for Boston.
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This is one of the most inaccurate statements in my opinion I have ever read. Most people on this board think we should have more young players in the line up. I can't remember the last young player that didn't get break after break from some of their defenders (Koko comes to mind) to the point of ridiculousness.
Happy that McAvoy is going the Providence route and you get him next year in Boston or Providence, I would like to see him get a full year of pro before being called up unless he excels in Providence for the remainder of the season, I don't believe he can play in the playoffs in the AHL.
ODAAT
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yep, year burned if he plays even one game, leave him in Providence, allows for him to acclimate the pro game, get some playoff action with the PB`s, work hard over the summer and hopefully crack the big boy roster next year, very wise move by DS and one I think will benefit Charlie
Now, not sure if say the B`s were to have a slew of injuries if he could be called up on an emergency basis and how that would affect his status but someone here would be far better suited to answer that question?
ODAAT
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I won`t speak for the poster you responded to but I`ll suggest he/she were speaking more to our expectations. I mean some here act/post like Heinen is no longer a viable NHL prospect because he hasn`t dominated or impressed to their liking
bigbadbruins1
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Yes the second he puts a boston uniform on and plays a game his first year is burned. that's because players that turn 20 Before a specific date then they are ineligible for the 10 game tryout period. I believe its December 31st of each year, but I'm most likely mistaken. Mcavoy turns 20 mid December so he would be ineligible for the 10 game tryout thus would burn his first contract year.
Fonzerelli
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He can play in the AHL playoffs. They did away with the 'Clear Day' rosters a few years ago. I believe Heinen played in the AHL playoffs last year after signing an ATO in April
RussellmaniaKW
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could he play in the NHL playoffs if he doesn't play any regular season games? And if so would that still burn a year of his ELC?
I think it's best to let him go to Providence. If he really impresses after a couple games we can bring him up. If he looks like he's in over his head we can let him learn down there for the rest of the season.
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A friend of mine (Rangers fan) brought up Chris Kreider, and he thought he didn't burn a year on his contract doing this.
But may not be correct.
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Yes, we want to have more in the line up, but are quick to turn on them when they falter, this year Vatrano seems to be in that category.
One thing I look for in prospects is an upward trend in production during their amateur careers. I see it in Carlo and Werenski but do not see it in McAvoy or JFK. Didn't see it in Vesey either between years 2 and 3.
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ODAAT
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that`s fair. I haven`t seen either kid play nearly enough to make an honest assessment.
For me, as long as I`m not reading too many articles about a player regressing or off ice issues, I tend to not worry too much about things. He may also be a kid who just fits in better with a pro game too?
I dunno, glad DS locked him in
Do you know if the B`s were to suffer big injuries on the back end and say he were called up on an emergency basis if this would burn year 1 of the ELC?
Not wishing for it to happen just wondering, thx
Fonzerelli
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I find the MOST IMPORTANT years are a players first year in a new league, so long as they are YOUNGER than the league average (the younger the better) and things are DIFFICULT. That's when you get a sense for what type of person you have on your hands. Also the 18 year old year, as the single biggest jump typically comes from the 17 year old season to the 18 year old season, as they typically transition from boys to men.
Once they are established in a league, it's important that they MAINTAIN steady production or IMPROVE. As long as they aren't declining, which is usually a red flag.
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Although production is big, it's not all that teams look at. Many variables when concidering prospects.
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ODAAT
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what impressed me about McAvoy`s game when watching the WJHC`s was his willingness to play physical, has a natural instinct when to and not to pinch as well, picked his spots nicely. Always going to be things a kid needs to improve upon but with a willingness to learn from experienced coaching, I think we could be in for a real treat here
Not a clue how all that will translate to the pro`s but really looking forward to watching/following how this kid plays in the weeks to come
Not a clue how all that will translate to the pro`s but really looking forward to watching/following how this kid plays in the weeks to come
ODAAT
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true, have a peek at the stats for this guy below, wasn`t exactly setting the world on fire with point production prior to playing NHL game 1. Not saying McAvoy will reproduce this kind of pro stat line and game just sharing something that speaks to your point
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=112742
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