'14-'15 Flames' 23 Man Roster

[Mr Lebowski]

@BurnEmUp
Glencross probably wouldn't waive. I'd do that deal though. And I'd rather just re-sign Westharth than wasting a pick on McLaren. I live in T.O and McLaren isn't a good fighter or a good hockey player.

@AF
So pretty much the same team, which is fine. Would like to see Wideman and Butler gone though.

@FFF
I think Tspoon is ready but defensemen I think should be spent in the minors for one more year after their ready. They have so much to worry about and develop he should spend one more year just getting more responsible and better offensively.

 

[rmunnich]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Calgary Flames 2014/2015

FORWARDS

Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Joe Colborne ($0.900m)
David Jones ($4.000m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Paul Byron ($1.000m)
Lance Bouma ($1.200m) / Jay McClement ($2.000m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
Rob Klinkhammer ($0.625m) / David Wolf ($0.868m)


DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Aaron Ekblad ($0.875m) / Kris Russell ($2.600m)
Derek Morris ($2.750m) / Ladislav Smid ($3.500m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m) /


GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.750m)

BURIED
Shane O'Brien ($1.075m)


RETAINED SALARIES (1.30% of upper limit)
Dennis Wideman ($0.525m—10.00%)
Jiri Hudler ($0.400m—10.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $48,737,500; BONUSES: $1,832,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $22,362,500

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Calgary Flames 2014/2015

FORWARDS

Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Joe Colborne ($0.900m)
David Jones ($4.000m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Paul Byron ($1.000m)
Lance Bouma ($1.200m) / Jay McClement ($2.000m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
Rob Klinkhammer ($0.625m) / David Wolf ($0.868m)


DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Aaron Ekblad ($0.875m) / Kris Russell ($2.600m)
Derek Morris ($2.750m) / Ladislav Smid ($3.500m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m) /


GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.750m)

BURIED
Shane O'Brien ($1.075m)


RETAINED SALARIES (1.30% of upper limit)
Dennis Wideman ($0.525m—10.00%)
Jiri Hudler ($0.400m—10.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $48,737,500; BONUSES: $1,832,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $22,362,500

We are going to need to somehow spend 3-4 million. If in fact the cap does goe somewhere around 70 million we can't roll that roster with a payroll of 48 million.

 

[rmunnich]

We are going to need to somehow spend 3-4 million. If in fact the cap does goe somewhere around 70 million we can't roll that roster with a payroll of 48 million.

When I was making the roster I had that in mind, I couldnt really think of a way to fix it.

The free agent crop is weak and I dont know who we could target on the trade market.

I guess I could have put both Hudler and Wideman back on the roster to get to that cap floor but for some reason I don't see either of them on the roster next season.

 

[BurnEmUp]

Trade #1 - Jiri Hudler (50% retained), RFA Mark Cundari to WAS for Troy Brouwer, Tomas Kundratek
Trade #2 - Shane O'Brien (50% retained) to SJS for Martin Havlat
Trade #3 - Sven Baertschi, RFA TJ Galiardi to NJD for RFA Adam Larsson


Re-sign RFA's - Larsson, Bouma, Colborne, Byron, Hanowski, Billins, Ortio

Sign UFA - David Steckel, 2 years $1,600,000 ($800,000 AAV)
Sign UFA - Chris Thorburn, 3 years $3,300,000 ($1,100,000 AAV)
Sign UFA - Jonas Gustavsson, 2 years $4,000,000 ($2,000,000 AAV)


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FORWARDS

1. Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) - Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) - Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
2. Paul Byron ($0.950m) - Sean Monahan ($0.925m) - Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
3. Joe Colborne ($0.900m) - Matt Stajan ($3.125m) - David Jones ($4.000m)
4. Lance Bouma ($0.850m) - David Steckel ($0.800m) - Chris Thorburn ($1.100m)

Extra - David Wolf ($0.868m) - Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN

1. Mark Giordano ($4.020m) - T.J. Brodie ($2.125m)
2. Kris Russell ($2.600m) - Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
3. Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) - Adam Larsson ($1.500m)

Extra - Tomas Kundratek ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS

1. Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
2. Jonas Gustavsson ($2.000m)

RETAINED SALARIES (4.22% of upper limit)

Jiri Hudler ($2.000m—50.00%)
Shane O'Brien ($1.000m—50.00%)


SALARY CAP: $69,000,000
CAP PAYROLL: $54,279,167
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $14,720,833

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Added "BEEF"

Brouwer - 6'3" 215 lbs
Havlat - 6'2" 210 lbs
Thorburn - 6'3" 230 lbs
Steckel - 6'6" 215 lbs
Larsson - 6'3" 205 lbs
Kundratek - 6'2" 205 lbs

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Adirondack Flames

Ferland - Granlund - Reinhart
Gaudreau - Knight - Jooris
Agostino - Arnold - Poirier
Vanbrabant - Elson - Hanowski

Billins - Wotherspoon
Kulak - Sieloff
Culkin - Ramage

Ortio

 

[Anglesmith]

@BurnEmUp
Glencross probably wouldn't waive. I'd do that deal though. And I'd rather just re-sign Westharth than wasting a pick on McLaren. I live in T.O and McLaren isn't a good fighter or a good hockey player.

I live in Victoria and I agree.

 

[Lunatik]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Calgary Flames 2014/2015

FORWARDS

Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Joe Colborne ($0.900m)
David Jones ($4.000m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Paul Byron ($1.000m)
Lance Bouma ($1.200m) / Jay McClement ($2.000m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
Rob Klinkhammer ($0.625m) / David Wolf ($0.868m)


DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Aaron Ekblad ($0.875m) / Kris Russell ($2.600m)
Derek Morris ($2.750m) / Ladislav Smid ($3.500m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m) /


GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.750m)

BURIED
Shane O'Brien ($1.075m)


RETAINED SALARIES (1.30% of upper limit)
Dennis Wideman ($0.525m—10.00%)
Jiri Hudler ($0.400m—10.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $48,737,500; BONUSES: $1,832,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $22,362,500

Colborne is going to get less as a RFA than Bouma and Byron?
Morris is worse than Wideman at this stage.
Trading both Wideman and Hudler is extremely unrealistic.

 

[Hand of Gaudreau]

Colborne is going to get less as a RFA than Bouma and Byron?
Morris is worse than Wideman at this stage.
Trading both Wideman and Hudler is extremely unrealistic.

No more unrealistic than having Gaudreau playing his off wing on the first line in his rookie season.

 

[Lunatik]

No more unrealistic than having Gaudreau playing his off wing on the first line in his rookie season.

It's much more unrealistic since Gaudreau has played some RW in his career.

He also has Jones on his off wing and the LH Byron on his off wing on the same line.

Up and down it's just a horrible set of ideas

 

[rmunnich]

I didn't put players where I believe they are going to play in the line up for next season, because that is completely up in the air because we really don't have a first, second, and third line. That is just a possible group of forwards and defense that I can picture being on the flames next season.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

Trade #1 - Jiri Hudler (50% retained), RFA Mark Cundari to WAS for Troy Brouwer, Tomas Kundratek
Trade #2 - Shane O'Brien (50% retained) to SJS for Martin Havlat
Trade #3 - Sven Baertschi, RFA TJ Galiardi to NJD for RFA Adam Larsson


Re-sign RFA's - Larsson, Bouma, Colborne, Byron, Hanowski, Billins, Ortio

Sign UFA - David Steckel, 2 years $1,600,000 ($800,000 AAV)
Sign UFA - Chris Thorburn, 3 years $3,300,000 ($1,100,000 AAV)
Sign UFA - Jonas Gustavsson, 2 years $4,000,000 ($2,000,000 AAV)


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FORWARDS

1. Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) - Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) - Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
2. Paul Byron ($0.950m) - Sean Monahan ($0.925m) - Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
3. Joe Colborne ($0.900m) - Matt Stajan ($3.125m) - David Jones ($4.000m)
4. Lance Bouma ($0.850m) - David Steckel ($0.800m) - Chris Thorburn ($1.100m)

Extra - David Wolf ($0.868m) - Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN

1. Mark Giordano ($4.020m) - T.J. Brodie ($2.125m)
2. Kris Russell ($2.600m) - Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
3. Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) - Adam Larsson ($1.500m)

Extra - Tomas Kundratek ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS

1. Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
2. Jonas Gustavsson ($2.000m)

RETAINED SALARIES (4.22% of upper limit)

Jiri Hudler ($2.000m—50.00%)
Shane O'Brien ($1.000m—50.00%)


SALARY CAP: $69,000,000
CAP PAYROLL: $54,279,167
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $14,720,833

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Added "BEEF"

Brouwer - 6'3" 215 lbs
Havlat - 6'2" 210 lbs
Thorburn - 6'3" 230 lbs
Steckel - 6'6" 215 lbs
Larsson - 6'3" 205 lbs
Kundratek - 6'2" 205 lbs

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Adirondack Flames

Ferland - Granlund - Reinhart
Gaudreau - Knight - Jooris
Agostino - Arnold - Poirier
Vanbrabant - Elson - Hanowski

Billins - Wotherspoon
Kulak - Sieloff
Culkin - Ramage

Ortio

I'd rather give Steckel's or Thorburns' spot to Reinhart. Or sign a better FA like Downie and move D.Jones to the 4th line. And keep SOB, bury him and help us get to the floor. And just do Havlat + 2nd for Future considerations. Maybe trade Wideman for 2nd and sign an FA. But I really liked both your rosters

 

[Mr Lebowski]

TWEAKING OF BURNEMUP'S ROSTER

trade #1 - Jiri Hudler, RFA rights to Mark Cundari to WAS for Troy Brouwer, Tomas Kundratek
trade#2 - UFA rights to Chris Butler to SJS for Martin Havlat, 2015 2nd/3rd
Trade #3 - Sven Baertschi and 54th Overall to NJD for Adam Larsson
Trade #4 - Dennis Wideman (50% retained) to DET for 2015 2nd
Trade #5 - Paul Byron to BOS for Matt Bartkowski

Re-sign - Larsson, Bouma, Byron, Hanowski, Billins, Ortio, Breen, Bartkowski, Jones

Sign UFA - Chad Johnson, 2 years $4,000,000 ($2,000,000 AAV)
sign UFA - Steve Downie - 3 years $10,500,000 ($3,500,000 AAV)

FORWARDS

Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Joe Colborne ($1.500m)
Troy Brouwer ($3.667m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Steve Downie ($3.500m)
Lance Bouma ($1.200m) / Max Reinhart ($0.618m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
T.J. Galiardi ($1.250m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)


DEFENSEMEN

T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Kris Russell ($2.600m) / Matt Bartkowski ($2.500m)
Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Adam Larsson ($2.000m)
Tomas Kundratek ($0.550m) /


GOALTENDERS

Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Chad Johnson ($2.000m)



BURIED
Shane O'Brien ($1.075m)

RETAINED SALARIES (3.69% of upper limit)
Dennis Wideman ($2.625m—50.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,255,000; BONUSES: $2,035,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $14,845,000
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Adirondack Flames


FORWARDS

Michael Ferland ($0.612m) / Markus Granlund ($0.768m) / Emile Poirier ($0.894m)
Kenneth Agostino ($0.845m) / Bill Arnold ($0.888m) / Josh Jooris ($0.925m)
David Wolf ($0.868m) / Corban Knight ($0.900m) / Ben Hanowski ($0.851m)
Brett Olson ($0.050m) / Blair Jones ($0.650m) / Bryce Van Brabant ($0.913m)
Turner Elson ($0.565m) /


DEFENSEMEN

Shane O'Brien ($2.000m) / Tyler Wotherspoon ($0.925m)
Christopher Breen ($0.578m) / Chad Billins ($0.874m)
Patrick Sieloff ($0.894m) / Brett Kulak ($0.657m)
John Ramage ($0.690m) /


GOALTENDERS

Joni Ortio ($0.605m)
Olivier Roy ($0.660m)​

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

First trade proposal is horrendous Gilles32...

Downie at 3.5 Million? Barf.

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No offence but in general to some people make Feaster look like an absolute wizard.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

First trade proposal is horrendous Gilles32...

Downie at 3.5 Million? Barf.

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No offence but in general to some people make Feaster look like an absolute wizard.

I got the first one from BurnEmUp, who do you think it's bad for? And Downie to make the floor

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I got the first one from BurnEmUp, who do you think it's bad for? And Downie to make the floor

The Capitals win for sure Hudler for Brouwer.

I would rather have injured Havlat with 1 year left than 3 years of Downie at 3.5.

 

[Anglesmith]

I got the first one from BurnEmUp, who do you think it's bad for? And Downie to make the floor

Making the floor is no excuse for that kind of contract for a garbage player (of course, that's my opinion of Downie). If you need $3.5M to make the floor, go out and sign a player who's worth that type of money.

 

[CraigsList]

I'd rather have Vrbata than Downie.

 

[Lunatik]

Making the floor is no excuse for that kind of contract for a garbage player (of course, that's my opinion of Downie). If you need $3.5M to make the floor, go out and sign a player who's worth that type of money.

like him or not 3.5 million is likely close to what he will get on the market

 

[Mr Lebowski]

Downie is 27 and a physical winger who can play top 9 or top 6. He gets between 30-40 points. That to me is a player that will get somewhere between 3 and 3.5mil. He's a right handed shot and he brings truculence. 3.5 isn't an awful contract for him.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

The Capitals win for sure Hudler for Brouwer.

I would rather have injured Havlat with 1 year left than 3 years of Downie at 3.5.

Hudler got 54 points, Brouwer got 43. Brouwer is a righty and a big forward and younger than Hudler. Kundatek looked very good in his last two years and has been Washington's first callup. He's a big RHD that's the "Jack Of All Trades" in that he can do everything decently and something very well.

 

[BurnEmUp]

Yeah, I don't think the Brouwer/Hudler deal was lopsided against us......I suppose because I retained 50% on Hudler to gain the Caps some cap space in the deal, that they could include a draft pick of some sort.

I did the deal not because I don't like Hudler, but because we got back something I think the Flames sorely need, a big right handed top six winger, and an extremely mobile young right handed defenseman who isn't small, and who is just about ready to break into the league.

 

[BurnEmUp]

TWEAKING OF BURNEMUP'S ROSTER

trade #1 - Jiri Hudler, RFA rights to Mark Cundari to WAS for Troy Brouwer, Tomas Kundratek
trade#2 - UFA rights to Chris Butler to SJS for Martin Havlat, 2015 2nd/3rd
Trade #3 - Sven Baertschi and 54th Overall to NJD for Adam Larsson
Trade #4 - Dennis Wideman (50% retained) to DET for 2015 2nd
Trade #5 - Paul Byron to BOS for Matt Bartkowski

Re-sign - Larsson, Bouma, Byron, Hanowski, Billins, Ortio, Breen, Bartkowski, Jones

Sign UFA - Chad Johnson, 2 years $4,000,000 ($2,000,000 AAV)
sign UFA - Steve Downie - 3 years $10,500,000 ($3,500,000 AAV)

FORWARDS

Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) / Joe Colborne ($1.500m)
Troy Brouwer ($3.667m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / Steve Downie ($3.500m)
Lance Bouma ($1.200m) / Max Reinhart ($0.618m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
T.J. Galiardi ($1.250m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)


DEFENSEMEN

T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Kris Russell ($2.600m) / Matt Bartkowski ($2.500m)
Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Adam Larsson ($2.000m)
Tomas Kundratek ($0.550m) /


GOALTENDERS

Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Chad Johnson ($2.000m)



BURIED
Shane O'Brien ($1.075m)

RETAINED SALARIES (3.69% of upper limit)
Dennis Wideman ($2.625m—50.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,255,000; BONUSES: $2,035,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $14,845,000
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Adirondack Flames


FORWARDS

Michael Ferland ($0.612m) / Markus Granlund ($0.768m) / Emile Poirier ($0.894m)
Kenneth Agostino ($0.845m) / Bill Arnold ($0.888m) / Josh Jooris ($0.925m)
David Wolf ($0.868m) / Corban Knight ($0.900m) / Ben Hanowski ($0.851m)
Brett Olson ($0.050m) / Blair Jones ($0.650m) / Bryce Van Brabant ($0.913m)
Turner Elson ($0.565m) /


DEFENSEMEN

Shane O'Brien ($2.000m) / Tyler Wotherspoon ($0.925m)
Christopher Breen ($0.578m) / Chad Billins ($0.874m)
Patrick Sieloff ($0.894m) / Brett Kulak ($0.657m)
John Ramage ($0.690m) /


GOALTENDERS

Joni Ortio ($0.605m)
Olivier Roy ($0.660m)​

Not bad, a few things though....

1. Not a big fan of Bartkowski, he's very vanilla IMO....like Butler.
2. Don't want O'Brien back on the farm....especially at the expense of a young PMD prospect like Culkin, who you've left off.
3. I doubt Olivier Roy will be back, he's just not that good and I'm sure they will find a better back up for the AHL team and have him on an AHL deal.

I agree about Downie, he's a POS but he's going to get what you've shown there, and he brings an element we can definitely use.......like him or not.

 

[The Gnome]

I'm surprised nobody wants to go after Richards out of LA. We could definitely use him in our lineup and he'd eat cap for a few years. I know his term is long, but we could figure that out down the road. For next 3 years he'd be an ideal guy to have with kids coming up.

I'm gonna do a lineup later. But one thing I'll say is reinhart should definitely be in there somewhere. He's ready. Love the idea of signing mclemment, he can move up if needed and wins draws. Very much doubt wolf will be in the nhl from what I've seen.

 

[CraigsList]

I wouldn't go after Richards in LA until we see who we pick in the draft.

If we pick Bennett, who plays a similar game like Richards, we don't need a duplicate player.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Guys, debate the topics not the posters. Any more flaming will result in an immediate infraction, final warning.