GDT: #12 ⋅ VAN @ ANA ⋅ 7:00 PM PST

Hey234

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Other than new or improving young players, the Ducks essentially swapped Lyubshkin and Henrique for Dumoulin and Fabbri. While I like both players, it's essentially treading water. The team is essentially the same. PV did not obtain the players he identified as needs so the team has the same issues as last season. With basically the same coach, exception Clune, this team is the same and the expectations for results should be the same unless significant growth from multiple young players.

I feel like a broken record, but the Ducks need to aquire a high end scoring forward. At the same time, the team is just not playing good hockey. Teams with low skill can still play solid, structured hockey. The Ducks seem unable to do that and lack confidence as a result. Even if Cronin isn't the main issue, at some point, you have to start seeing results.
 

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I actually liked the beginning of the game. We executed well and put the pressure on them. We were outshooting them and out chancing them. They adjusted, drew a penalty, got 2 back to back goalsand we started to slowly drift away from an aggressive game to pumping pucks in the neutral zone again or with no pressure in offensive zone. Game over.

It was crystal clear. By the beginning of the 2nd they had their way with us and it led to the 3rd goal.

Killorn was the worst offender to me. He had the pick near our blue line and just floated a pick to center. He didn’t even look at making a pass. He had very little pressure, really pissed me off and I felt the game started to turn once they did that.

Their forecheck was effective after that and our wasn’t.

I didn’t even bother watching the 3rd. I had seen enough.
 

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Other than new or improving young players, the Ducks essentially swapped Lyubshkin and Henrique for Dumoulin and Fabbri. While I like both players, it's essentially treading water. The team is essentially the same.

That's what I've been saying most of the offseason. You could go as far as saying Fabbri could be a downgrade with his injury struggles.

I've been pretty unimpressed by Zellweger, LaCombe and Luneau so far.

But all the 'propaganda' regarding LaCombe has been great so far! Cronin told me he was the 'most improved'! :help::blah::blah::blah:
 

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the losses are coming now. They aren’t really playing any worse than in the first 10 or so but they got maybe a W or two and OTL points from Dostal as he stood on his head. Now that he’s looking a bit more human (still been fine) and they still can’t score, the Ls are piling up.

Just tough to see where the breakout is gonna come from looking at the forward group. The vets look done (outside Terry) and the young guys seem to have no confidence.
 
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This really is unwatchable hockey. I can handle boring hockey if the team is clearly competitive and executing on a viable plan. I can handle bad hockey if the team is playing in an exciting way that shows they have skill and potential but just aren't there yet.

But please don't give me both.
The other teams don't even look like they're trying. It's just like the most casual NHL game/scrimmage. Making their after game dinner plans as they stroll to a 5-1 win.
 

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It's too many support players. The Ducks have a lot of solid players who would be successful in other situations. The vets they have are not on-ice leaders but off-ice leaders. They need players who can pull them back in and settle games down. The Ducks don't have those players and PV tried/failed in obtaining them.

It's a failure of the GM to properly add to his team, failure of the coach to properly use the players he has been given, and failure of the players (especially the vets) for not showing a consistent effort every night. When a team is failing at all 3 levels, it's a recipe the creates the Anaheim Ducks.
 
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The other teams don't even look like they're trying. It's just like the most casual NHL game/scrimmage. Making their after game dinner plans as they stroll to a 5-1 win.
It comes into sharper focus when you watch the games on the opponent’s broadcast. They’re just so excited to be firing on all cylinders, entering the zone at will, there’s a sense of inevitability that they’ll win.

For them, these games may as well be exhibition games. There’s NHL talent here but this isn’t an NHL team. They can’t even pass.
 
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It's too many support players. The Ducks have a lot of solid players who would be successful in other situations. The vets they have are not on-ice leaders but off-ice leaders. They need players who can pull them back in and settle games down. The Ducks don't have those players and PV tried/failed in obtaining them.

It's a failure of the GM to properly add to his team, failure of the coach to properly use the players he has been given, and failure of the players (especially the vets) for not showing a consistent effort every night. When a team is failing at all 3 levels, it's a recipe the creates the Anaheim Ducks.
Adding vets who would help turn the corner is going to have to be via trade. You could do what chi did and add the likes of Hall, TT, Bertuzzi, but they are at this point more secondary guys. Going to have to give to get.
 

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The milk is spoiling. I do wonder if a roster shakeup is needed or if the coaching really is what is ruining us. It is never just one thing, but I don't know the best way forward.

Something needs to change, so maybe just start pulling levers? Not like things can be much worse.
 
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