Prospect Info: 10th overall: Vancouver selects Vasili Podkolzin (RW, SKA St. Petersburg)

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M2Beezy

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Whyd he play for so little time? What a joke :shakehead
 

Johnny Canucker

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Huh? What are you talking about. What made you think that I was mad? That's such a weird comment. And who is they? You seem confused like you were about the Miller deal.

Over your head Stan, I’ll explain later, my teas gone cold over here and I’m wondering why.
 

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Pod just have to keep his head down and keep working and show the coach he's there to work and earn his ice time, cause sooner or later injuries are going to hit and he has to make the most of it. I remember my first game in the BCHL as a 16 year old, I only got a 20 second shift. Don’t get discouraged and get to work. Put in the extra effort and stay longer after practice, work with SKA skill coaches. Daniel Bochner is a unbelievable skills coach, Pod’s has great resources at SKA. No doubt in my mind he’ll get regular shifts by Christmas. Kid’s a warrior.
 

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Still early. This is par for the course for young players on good KHL teams. More important that he is learning and playing against men. Didn't look out of place in his 40 sec shift so that's a positive.
 

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I actually took time to watch that game... I thought he was a healthy scratch until the 2nd... One shift.
The way they deploy youngsters in the KHL is sometimes so disheartening.
Its the same in most EU pro league teams. While the developmental experience is a lot better (assuming the player gets used), its a wonder that more EU players dont come to NA Jr's until they know they'll get a shot in the line up. At the same time, I wonder why more 19-20 year old CHL/NA draftees don't go to Europe if they aren't ready or eligible for AHL
 

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Remember when you said J.T. Miller was a top line winger but ranked 140th in points for a forward last year?

Actually I don't. Do you have a quote to refresh my memory? I do remember saying this:

I think that overall fans overrate the value of draft picks in terms of actually using it to select a player. Every year we think all these draft eligible forwards would develop into first line star players. But in reality you would be happy if your team which drafted a Newhook or a Krebs end up with a JT Miller type player. Heck even a reasonable and good projection of Podkolzin would be a 2nd like type who puts up close to 25 goals and 55 points while being a solid 200 foot player. At one time, Miller was that too 10 talent prospect who was drafted 11th overall.
 

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Its the same in most EU pro league teams. While the developmental experience is a lot better (assuming the player gets used), its a wonder that more EU players dont come to NA Jr's until they know they'll get a shot in the line up. At the same time, I wonder why more 19-20 year old CHL/NA draftees don't go to Europe if they aren't ready or eligible for AHL

Recently Liiga has been much better with this. My home town team had Heponiemi & Kupari on the top line and top PP.
 

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Its the same in most EU pro league teams. While the developmental experience is a lot better (assuming the player gets used), its a wonder that more EU players dont come to NA Jr's until they know they'll get a shot in the line up. At the same time, I wonder why more 19-20 year old CHL/NA draftees don't go to Europe if they aren't ready or eligible for AHL

I think NHL teams more readily encourage their European draft picks to come play in North America rather than the other way around. Besides that, moving out of the continent is a big move for 19/20 year olds. Besides, don't most European leagues have a restriction on the number of foreigners you can have on the team? Unless you're a star like Matthews, you only really see European guys returning to their home country. You also earn scholarship / money for education for every year you spend playing in the CHL. It's a bit different for Europeans since they are generally recruited to play a big role for the CHL club and they probably see it as an opportunity to adjust to the North American game and learn English etc. The chances of Karel Plasek playing 1st line minutes and being a point per game player if he goes over to the CHL is much higher than Carson Focht getting top 6 minutes and excelling in Europe.
 

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Most KHL teams don’t develop young nhl drafted players because they know they can’t keep them for long.
Pod needs to perform in the U20 tournament
 

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Get him out of the KHL ASAP. Toxic place for him to be right now.
 

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It's more than just 'will he come to NA?' that makes Russian players a risk.

There hasn't been an impact Russian who didn't come to play NA junior since Tarasenko/Kuznetsov/Panarin whose draft year is coming up on a decade ago.
 

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Most KHL teams don’t develop young nhl drafted players because they know they can’t keep them for long.
Pod needs to perform in the U20 tournament
Exactly my thoughts. Everybody knows Podkolzin is signing with the Canucks the day his contract in the KHL comes to an end. So the coach at SKA is hardly going to give him development ice-time if he's got a veteran who gives him a better chance to win. It's hard to see how how Podkolzin's development will be enhanced playing in the KHL unless his club team has a spate of injuries.

In fact if I was the Canucks I'd be looking for creative ways to get him out of his KHL contract early. After all, if the coach isn't going to play why would they care if he leaves early?
 

Johnny Canucker

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Exactly my thoughts. Everybody knows Podkolzin is signing with the Canucks the day his contract in the KHL comes to an end. So the coach at SKA is hardly going to give him development ice-time if he's got a veteran who gives him a better chance to win. It's hard to see how how Podkolzin's development will be enhanced playing in the KHL unless his club team has a spate of injuries.


In fact if I was the Canucks I'd be looking for creative ways to get him out of his KHL contract early. After all, if the coach isn't going to play why would they care if he leaves early?


Sounds like a huge excuse for him not putting up points in a tournament where a top 10 pick should.
 
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