10 years. Time is up Shanahan.

[SmoggyTwinkles]

All of talk in that season ending presser, but they still end up just doing the same thing. This guy is a loser and everybody he hires is a loser too. I am not convinced Tre or Berube are any good. I will be really pissed off if they re-sign Marner.

Berube seems pretty good to me.

edit: weird. this is an old thread. I simply responded because I got a notification that I was quoted.

 

[darrylsittler27]

There are issues with Berube. His style means injuries. He is playing playoffs early. That will hit hard as the season goes on.Toronto will slip to 4th or 5th. I don't think Tre can just give Berube what he needs, 2 hard competitors C and D.

 

[conFABulator]

There are issues with Berube. His style means injuries. He is playing playoffs early. That will hit hard as the season goes on.Toronto will slip to 4th or 5th. I don't think Tre can just give Berube what he needs, 2 hard competitors C and D.

That's interesting.

I have wondered if style of play could be leading to increased injuries. It's an interesting theory. I have a few thoughts on it.

(a) If playoff style hockey is getting us hurt, then we were never going to win. I don't believe you can just turn it on in April if you have never done it before. So, better get the guys used to it or bring in guys that are. Not playing this way is not a long term success strategy based on what we have seen.

(b) Are we seeing increased injuries due to style of play though? Matthews has been out, apparently from an injury that first flared up in training camp. It would be hard to pin that on style of play. After that I see McMann, Domi, Pacioretty, Kampf, McCabe, Dewar, Hakanpaa, and Stolarz as having missed/going to miss a material amount of games due to injury. Stolarz is a goalie (with an injury history) so that doesn't count. McCabe took a pick off the ear, Dewar and Hakanpaa came in hurt, Pacioretty and McMann have a history. So, Domi and Kampf? I won't even touch on Jarnkrok. I am not sure this is enough to spot a trend yet.

(c) I think we are using IR and LTIR as a tool to have a roster that is about 27 deep and over the cap. Dewar is ready to come back and Kampf gets hurt? Jarnkrok gets hernia surgery to bring him back for the playoffs. Patches and McMann out mean we get to see Alex Nylander and Grebenkin. Domi goes out and we are Minten. McCabe gives Myers a look. I think we will see this shuffle all year.

 

[darrylsittler27]

That's interesting.

I have wondered if style of play could be leading to increased injuries. It's an interesting theory. I have a few thoughts on it.

(a) If playoff style hockey is getting us hurt, then we were never going to win. I don't believe you can just turn it on in April if you have never done it before. So, better get the guys used to it or bring in guys that are. Not playing this way is not a long term success strategy based on what we have seen.

(b) Are we seeing increased injuries due to style of play though? Matthews has been out, apparently from an injury that first flared up in training camp. It would be hard to pin that on style of play. After that I see McMann, Domi, Pacioretty, Kampf, McCabe, Dewar, Hakanpaa, and Stolarz as having missed/going to miss a material amount of games due to injury. Stolarz is a goalie (with an injury history) so that doesn't count. McCabe took a pick off the ear, Dewar and Hakanpaa came in hurt, Pacioretty and McMann have a history. So, Domi and Kampf? I won't even touch on Jarnkrok. I am not sure this is enough to spot a trend yet.

(c) I think we are using IR and LTIR as a tool to have a roster that is about 27 deep and over the cap. Dewar is ready to come back and Kampf gets hurt? Jarnkrok gets hernia surgery to bring him back for the playoffs. Patches and McMann out mean we get to see Alex Nylander and Grebenkin. Domi goes out and we are Minten. McCabe gives Myers a look. I think we will see this shuffle all year.

The way I see it we will continue to see injuries due to our style without the right forwards to play that style. The Tanev injury was a blow to our defense but not unexpected. We need a couple of guys built to play Berubes style or we enter the playoffs limping Imho.

 

[conFABulator]

The way I see it we will continue to see injuries due to our style without the right forwards to play that style. The Tanev injury was a blow to our defense but not unexpected. We need a couple of guys built to play Berubes style or we enter the playoffs limping Imho.

I don't disagree that we should worry about the style matching the personnel, but what evidence is there so far to warrant a statement that we will "continue" to see injuries pile up.

It's difficult to suggest our injuries are style related given who got injured, when they got injured and what the injuries were.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

In hockey we tend to eat our own .. it is all Berube knows .. Shanny too