GDT: #10 | Flyers at Bruins | Tuesday, October 29, 2024 | 7:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

ybnvs

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Andrae is smooth but undersized, he'll need better anticipation to survive in the NHL.

He has the instincts. He has been one of the smaller guys on the ice his entire life. At 5'9 190, he plays a stronger game than you think.

Same height as Spurgeon, but plays a much more physically-involved game.
 

flyersnorth

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Well that was a boring game.

I had the Boston broadcast because, well, Sportsnet+ thinks Canadians don't deserve the choice, which we used to have before. If I had to guess, it's because they want to force the Canadian broadcast when a Canadian team is involved. Way to take a great product and make it worse for more money.

I liked what I saw from Andrae. He made some solid offensive and defensive plays, and was much more physical than I remember. A bit of a mean streak. He should be a regular.
 
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Wait, you guys are telling me that Andrae played a road game against one of the better teams in the league and he wasn't a -5!?! I thought he couldn't handle the away matchups...good thing he sat in the pressbox those first four games of the road trip
 
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He's not getting fired, and I doubt he moves upstairs.

Torts will coach as long as he wants, and then become a senior advisor who meets with Briere once a month and spends the rest of the time with his wife, dogs and horses on the farm.

They don't care about wins and losses right now, Briere wouldn't have accumulated 2025 draft picks unless he was expecting to be rebuilding until 2027-2028 or so (when this draft will arrive). The current team isn't good enough, Zavragin isn't coming over until 2027, Luchanko, Bonk, Barkey, Ciernak, et al aren't enough by themselves to make them SC contenders.

Right now, it's more about seeing who is part of the core, and who may be used as trade assets.
I think they'll try to swing one or two deals for young difference makers.
Yes, they do care about wins and losses. Only a fool would think otherwise. So, if torst wants an extension they will give it to him?

There are maybe a few players ( MM York and ?) who can be core players you build around on this roster. The rest can go. Some you keep as support.

You have the same type post for x number of years with just the names changed.

Who the hell they going to trade to acquire a difference maker? They do not have anyone outside of MM on this roster who can get that return. They going to trade all the 1st rd picks?
 

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An old fashioned tight checking, hard hitting low scoring hockey game.
Shutting out Boston on the road.
And people are bored.

Y'all should become Devil fans, all offense, no defense.
 
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flyersnorth

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An old fashioned tight checking, hard hitting low scoring hockey game.
Shutting out Boston on the road.
And people are bored.

Y'all should become Devil fans, all offense, no defense.

What I saw was a Flyers team that was unable to get out of their own zone for most of the game, and when they did get the puck, they handled it like a live grenade. They couldn't complete plays and sustain any sort of pressure. That's not entertaining to me. That's just survival mode. But, to each his own.

I am sure the number of failed clears by the Flyers was upwards of 20. Could be 30 without exaggeration.
 
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deadhead

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What I saw was a Flyers team that was unable to get out of their own zone for most of the game, and when they did get the puck, they handled it like a live grenade. They couldn't complete plays and sustain any sort of pressure. That's not entertaining to me. That's just survival mode. But, to each his own.

I am sure the number of failed clears by the Flyers was upwards of 20. Could be 30 without exaggeration.
I also saw a very physical Bruins team playing with desperation after 3 straight losses.
Young teams tend to struggle against strong forechecking teams, we saw that the first half of the Minnesota game.
Flyers also thwarted the Bruins offense, blocking almost 30 shots, breaking up numerous plays.

Michkov and Frost both struggled with tight checking, in Michkov's case he's 19, not used to smaller NHL windows and I expect him to adjust by the second half. Plus it's obvious his teammates are still getting used to him and his quick passes. Michkov and Brink are the two best playmakers on this team.
 

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Michkov and Brink are the two best playmakers on this team.
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Just because you say things doesn't make it true.....
 
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deadhead

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Just because you say things doesn't make it true.....
The problem with this stat is it lumps together plays created in transition where you're making open ice passes, and plays in the "half court" where you're making plays passing through tight windows.

TK is more the straw that stirs the drink, setting up opportunities by creating havoc by attacking the O-zone. A lot of his scoring opportunities come from forcing turnovers or in position to receive passes off turnovers, where he's in a 2x2 situation with open ice. Tippett is similar, except he's more of a bull in the china shop, TK has better vision when he's creating by attacking. Tippett has improved as a passer, his problem is making those split second "should I shoot or pass" decisions.

Brink and Michkov are both learning how to handle tight NHL windows (both forces passes too often) and how to play with their teammates. As the season progresses, I expect both to make more plays.
 

VladDrag

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The problem with this stat is it lumps together plays created in transition where you're making open ice passes, and plays in the "half court" where you're making plays passing through tight windows.

TK is more the straw that stirs the drink, setting up opportunities by creating havoc by attacking the O-zone. A lot of his scoring opportunities come from forcing turnovers or in position to receive passes off turnovers, where he's in a 2x2 situation with open ice. Tippett is similar, except he's more of a bull in the china shop, TK has better vision when he's creating by attacking. Tippett has improved as a passer, his problem is making those split second "should I shoot or pass" decisions.

Brink and Michkov are both learning how to handle tight NHL windows (both forces passes too often) and how to play with their teammates. As the season progresses, I expect both to make more plays.
Whatever you have to tell yourself, deady.
 

flyersnorth

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I also saw a very physical Bruins team playing with desperation after 3 straight losses.
Young teams tend to struggle against strong forechecking teams, we saw that the first half of the Minnesota game.
Flyers also thwarted the Bruins offense, blocking almost 30 shots, breaking up numerous plays.

Michkov and Frost both struggled with tight checking, in Michkov's case he's 19, not used to smaller NHL windows and I expect him to adjust by the second half. Plus it's obvious his teammates are still getting used to him and his quick passes. Michkov and Brink are the two best playmakers on this team.

Fair point, and I would agree if the Flyers had looked any different in their previous nine games. But they have struggled mightily there too.

They did do a great job at blocking shots and protecting the goalie. I think that was lacking in some of the previous games.
 

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Tortorella was going on about the importance of blocking shots post game....frankly this is a blockhead antiquated mentality IMO. Guy would be happy if we had a Manute Bol on the team..
 

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Same...I rather doom scroll on my phone than doom watch the Flyers...

I follow here but haven’t watched other than a couple highlights this season. That goes back to last year too I think.

For me personally, they just aren’t entertaining in how they are being built. I don’t feel like watching Calgary East.
 
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The problem with this stat is it lumps together plays created in transition where you're making open ice passes, and plays in the "half court" where you're making plays passing through tight windows.

TK is more the straw that stirs the drink, setting up opportunities by creating havoc by attacking the O-zone. A lot of his scoring opportunities come from forcing turnovers or in position to receive passes off turnovers, where he's in a 2x2 situation with open ice. Tippett is similar, except he's more of a bull in the china shop, TK has better vision when he's creating by attacking. Tippett has improved as a passer, his problem is making those split second "should I shoot or pass" decisions.

Brink and Michkov are both learning how to handle tight NHL windows (both forces passes too often) and how to play with their teammates. As the season progresses, I expect both to make more plays.

Lol no. Completely not.
 

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