GDT: 10/30/24 - 9:00PM EDT - Tampa Bay @ Colorado

[Point21]

Folks, this is the HFboards equivalent of taking your ball and going home. It's when you act like an ass and can't just move on when you're wrong.

In this case, there was no ball and no one wanted to play anyways.

so after reading whatever it was that was being argued, you are in fact correct. They upheld the initial major call which was the Steinberg hit, the McDonagh hit wasnt called a penalty originally and wouldnt have been reviewed until Coop said something. Im pretty sure Engblom mentioned that any reviewed major that wasnt originally called can only be held as a major or no call at all. The whole double minor review thing is also correct but is not comparable to a 5 minute major that was completely missed.

 

[Rschmitz]

so after reading whatever it was that was being argued, you are in fact correct. They upheld the initial major call which was the Steinberg hit, the McDonagh hit wasnt called a penalty originally and wouldnt have been reviewed until Coop said something. Im pretty sure Engblom mentioned that any reviewed major that wasnt originally called can only be held as a major or no call at all. The whole double minor review thing is also correct but is not comparable to a 5 minute major that was completely missed.

Thanks for looking it up!

The Av's broadcast and Mishkin also said it had to be a major or nothing, and then the ref said "no major so no penalty". I mean, I don't know how much more evidence is needed to convince someone, but some people just wanna be jerks I guess.

 

[Renopucker]

get Kostin from San Jose and plant him 2' in front of the net and watch the ppg's come rolling in.......


#29 bullshit.........

C'mon Lets be fair. One guy is a dragster and another races Sebring. Apple vs orange. I'd love to have them both.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

so after reading whatever it was that was being argued, you are in fact correct. They upheld the initial major call which was the Steinberg hit, the McDonagh hit wasnt called a penalty originally and wouldnt have been reviewed until Coop said something. Im pretty sure Engblom mentioned that any reviewed major that wasnt originally called can only be held as a major or no call at all. The whole double minor review thing is also correct but is not comparable to a 5 minute major that was completely missed.

Just for clarification, this is all I argued:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1751480206836253149

It’s not that hard to look things up, guys. Coop cannot call for a penalty review. He can talk to them and convince them all ex-lawyerly, but cannot initiate it. They called 2 majors. In order to review the second one. They reviewed both. Both were penalties called be the refs. It was confusing because they called the first major and then there was a break before they called the second. Ostensibly because of the injury, and more likely because cooper was jawing at their ear.

Majors can be reviewed, can be reduced to a minor, and can be waived (as we saw).

 

[Point21]

Just for clarification, this is all I argued:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1751480206836253149

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It’s not that hard to look things up, guys. Coop cannot call for a penalty review. He can talk to them and convince them all ex-lawyerly, but cannot initiate it.

Majors can be reviewed, can be reduced to a minor, and can be waived (as we saw).

i understand where you are coming from but because the ref never called the penalty for the hit on McDonagh means it was either a major or nothing. You have to read the wording "Confirming his original major penalty call". Cant confirm a call that was never made to begin with. I also never said Coop can call a penalty review, just that he said something that got them to review it to see if there was another major penalty which they deemed wasnt worthy of a major penalty so they waived it completely.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

i understand where you are coming from but because the ref never called the penalty for the hit on McDonagh means it was either a major or nothing. You have to read the wording "Confirming his original major penalty call". Cant confirm a call that was never made to begin with. I also never said Coop can call a penalty review, just that he said something that got them to review it to see if there was another major penalty which they deemed wasnt worthy of a major penalty so they waived it completely.

That’s the thing, they had to call it. You can’t review it unless they call it. So they had to call it to review it. Unless they pulled some shit, which is obviously plausible. But the rules are there that constrain what can be reviewed. You can’t review a minor, and you can’t review an arbitrary play. They called the second major.

 

[Point21]

That’s the thing, they had to call it. You can’t review it unless they call it. So they had to call it to review it. Unless they pulled some shit, which is obviously plausible. But the rules are there that constrain what can be reviewed. You can’t review a minor, and you can’t review an arbitrary play. They called the second major.

I think they generally missed the other hit. Cause if you look back at it, they were only calling the Steinberg hit until Coop called the ref over to the bench.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

i'd love to see where that is in the rulebook, because i searched for it, but this is the nhl sooo not terribly surprising.

get rid of all reviews you cowards

 

[DFC]

I think technically the refs can confer with the linesman on a possible major penalty. So perhaps in this case they didn't announce the penalty but the linesman said "hey, yeah, there was some boarding that might warrant a major."

I'm guessing if the nhl asks they will say they would have called the major based on what the linesman said and then reviewed it and saw it didn't warrant a major, thus no penalty.