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The Nemesis said:
Today I learned that Mad Max Fury Road owes its existence to, of all things, ReBoot. Yes, I'm talking about the 90s CG cartoon.

It turns out that the writer of Fury Road, Brendan McCarthy, was always a big fan of the Mad Max movies growing up. So when he was working on ReBoot as a writer/production designer and the show did a Mad Max parody episode ("Bad Bob") he wrote to George Miller to tell him about the parody. From this Miller called him and the two met on a trip to Los Angeles where Miller pitched a Xena/Hercules style Mad Max TV show for McCarthy to come work on. McCarthy basically said "that's a dumb idea, just make another movie."

And so they did like 20 years later, having apparently worked on it off and on since whenever it was in the 90s that all of this happened (for reference, the ReBoot episode in question originally aired in September of 95.



obligatory preparation for people to go "oh my god, the art is awful!" without remembering that this predates Toy Story by like a year, was the first ever full-length CG animated broadcast TV series ever made, and they basically began working on it in like the late 80s/early 90s and it literally took them almost half a decade to get enough episodes for a season order because nobody had any idea how to do any of this and it was all self-taught on the fly as they produced what would go to air (because it was waaaaaaayyyyy too cost-prohibitive to just make a pilot to pitch with. They had to have a full order or nothing at all). Also yes, I am still bitter that the show ended on a damn cliffhanger and the only thing they've done since was an awful in-name-only revival that was more like a bad version of Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad with the ReBoot name plastered on it.
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As a huge fan of both the first season of ReBoot and the Mad Max movies, this is amazing.

Another fun fact about ReBoot - the guys who created that show were the same people who worked on the Money For Nothing video.
 
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Bizz said:
Imagine only playing 3 or 5 games to determine the outcome of a Playoff Series.

Yes, is f***ing stupid, but then again so is the MLB and it's Playoffs system.
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MLB could have the GOAT playoff system if they just went straight to the NLCS and ALCS

Being a top-4 team after 162 games should mean a lot

Once they went to wildcard teams, they went in the totally wrong direction
 
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WTFetus said:
Talking about bad art, I could never get into Code Lyoko in grade school because of their ugly foreheads. Reboot was good stuff though. Recess in the morning, Reboot after school. Simpler times.
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Speaking of 90s 3D animation, did you watch much of the 90s transformers stuff like Beast Wars. And yea, Code Lyoko was super ugly.
 
hohosaregood said:
Speaking of 90s 3D animation, did you watch much of the 90s transformers stuff like Beast Wars. And yea, Code Lyoko was super ugly.
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Of course, watched Beast Wars up until maybe mid Season 3.
I don't think I was in the age-range to have necessarily "grown up" with the early/mid 90s cartoons, but I watched a weird mix of TV shows since I primarily watched whatever my older brother wanted to watch. So things on Nick Jr (Franklin, Little Bear) by myself, Beast Wars and Cartoon Cartoons (Dexter, Johnny Bravo, etc) with him, and re-runs of Growing Pains and Boy Meets World with my parents. :laugh:
 
hohosaregood said:
Speaking of 90s 3D animation, did you watch much of the 90s transformers stuff like Beast Wars. And yea, Code Lyoko was super ugly.
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Beast Wars is easily one of the best Transformers series, and one of the best 90s cartoons period. A nice tight cast of well-defined and fun characters and by the time they got to the back half of season one and into season two they were telling a largely serialized story with a heck of a lot going on and that wasn't afraid to be dark and severe when it needed to ("Code of Hero" is one of the best episodes the franchise ever put out at any point in its nearly 40 years. This is practically indisputable fact)

Its follow-up series, Beast Machines is... I'm going to be charitable and say "a mixed bag"

And for anyone that liked ReBoot or Beast Wars, there is a 3rd show in the holy trinity of great mid-90s works that Mainframe Entertainment put out: Shadow Raiders (it might've carried the "War Planets" branding in the US, I don't know. For whatever reason Canadian kids TV at the time wouldn't allow the word "war" in titles so it was just Shadow Raiders here, and Beast Wars was renamed "Beasties")

It's based on a mostly forgotten toyline but ran for two 13-episode seasons and was a really fun action/apocalypse/political-drama sort of show. And it used much of the same cast as the other two shows as well (many of whom are also going to be familiar if you watched basically any non-Funimation anime from the early 2000s)

I'll have to come back later when I have time to post links but both seasons are on Youtube.
 
As promised:

Season 1:


Season 2:


The channel is in Spanish/Portuguese but the episodes are original english audio and video, no hard subs or watermarks or anything like that. And though it's showing the first episode of each season, the link is for an actual playlist with the whole season on it. So the season header above each video is now also linked to the playlist page.

It's the only place I know if that has the show available as it only did limited DVD runs back in the day and the rights have likely long since lapsed.
 
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Pavelski2112 said:
As a huge fan of both the first season of ReBoot and the Mad Max movies, this is amazing.

Another fun fact about ReBoot - the guys who created that show were the same people who worked on the Money For Nothing video.
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Just the first season? Honestly I thought the second and third seasons were really good. They were almost a different show though as things got much more serious and at times pretty bleak/dark. According to things I've read, this was somewhat by design. For season 1 and into season 2 the show was co-produced and aired by ABC in the US and their content oversight/watchdogs were apparently extremely strict in terms of what levels of violence and inappropriate material they would allow in the show. Things like Dot wasn't allowed to look particularly attractive, so her character model had a wide, uniform chest protrusion the animators dubbed the "monoboob" because distinctly individual breasts like an actual humanoid were considered too sexy. But somehow they weren't nearly as concerned with the villainous/amoral characters, so Mouse got to be a bit more aggressively flirty and they just went full sexy dominatrix with Hexadecimal (creepy mask aside) to see if they could. But the best stories come from the Enzo birthday episode:

1) the standards and practices binome in that episode that loudly objects to every act Dot enjoys and wants to book for the party (and does so in the most annoyingly screechy voice possible) was apparently based on a real ABC Standards and Practices staff member who the showrunners especally hated for how weirdly and aggressively strict she was. Rumor has it that she was less than impressed to be parodied by the show in such a way.

2) At the end of Dot's singing performance during the final act of the episode, she was supposed to kiss Enzo on the cheek as she wished him a happy birthday. Apparently one ABC executive thought that this act of familial affection had to be removed from the episode for being "incestuous." One of the showrunners has said that this conclusion by the ABC suit is "one of the sickest things" he's ever heard.

Oh and yeah, I know about the Mainframe guys making the Money for Nothing video. I think it's what got them the job making this show. And the two main characters from the video cameo in the above-mentioned birthday episode.

But anyway I really loved the second and third seasons. The "fourth season" movies are a mixed bag though. The suddenly improved CG actually ends up looking a little weird as it changes how the humanoid sprites emote, Daemon Rising is a bit of a let down, and the fact that My Two Bobs ends on a goddamn cliffhanger that they never followed up on is infuriating. And they can't really follow up on it anymore since Tony Jay passed away and I don't think you can do Megabyte without Jay behind the mic. Because hot damn that man could make reading your microwave's instruction manual sound epic and engrossing.

Still, this whole fight scene from the last episodes of season 3 is just frigging perfect (spoilers, so it's going in spoiler tags even if the show is like 25 years old at this point)

 
The Nemesis said:
Just the first season? Honestly I thought the second and third seasons were really good. They were almost a different show though as things got much more serious and at times pretty bleak/dark. According to things I've read, this was somewhat by design. For season 1 and into season 2 the show was co-produced and aired by ABC in the US and their content oversight/watchdogs were apparently extremely strict in terms of what levels of violence and inappropriate material they would allow in the show. Things like Dot wasn't allowed to look particularly attractive, so her character model had a wide, uniform chest protrusion the animators dubbed the "monoboob" because distinctly individual breasts like an actual humanoid were considered too sexy. But somehow they weren't nearly as concerned with the villainous/amoral characters, so Mouse got to be a bit more aggressively flirty and they just went full sexy dominatrix with Hexadecimal (creepy mask aside) to see if they could. But the best stories come from the Enzo birthday episode:

1) the standards and practices binome in that episode that loudly objects to every act Dot enjoys and wants to book for the party (and does so in the most annoyingly screechy voice possible) was apparently based on a real ABC Standards and Practices staff member who the showrunners especally hated for how weirdly and aggressively strict she was. Rumor has it that she was less than impressed to be parodied by the show in such a way.

2) At the end of Dot's singing performance during the final act of the episode, she was supposed to kiss Enzo on the cheek as she wished him a happy birthday. Apparently one ABC executive thought that this act of familial affection had to be removed from the episode for being "incestuous." One of the showrunners has said that this conclusion by the ABC suit is "one of the sickest things" he's ever heard.

Oh and yeah, I know about the Mainframe guys making the Money for Nothing video. I think it's what got them the job making this show. And the two main characters from the video cameo in the above-mentioned birthday episode.

But anyway I really loved the second and third seasons. The "fourth season" movies are a mixed bag though. The suddenly improved CG actually ends up looking a little weird as it changes how the humanoid sprites emote, Daemon Rising is a bit of a let down, and the fact that My Two Bobs ends on a goddamn cliffhanger that they never followed up on is infuriating. And they can't really follow up on it anymore since Tony Jay passed away and I don't think you can do Megabyte without Jay behind the mic. Because hot damn that man could make reading your microwave's instruction manual sound epic and engrossing.
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Yea lol I think in the Enzo episode one of the songs is literally called BSNP or something like that, directly going after the S&P guys at the networks.

I just was more familiar with the first season, I never really watched much afterward as a kid.
 
Pavelski2112 said:
Yea lol I think in the Enzo episode one of the songs is literally called BSNP or something like that, directly going after the S&P guys at the networks.

I just was more familiar with the first season, I never really watched much afterward as a kid.
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I went and looked and it seems like Shout Factory has the whole series up on their streaming service for free (with commercials)

Shout! TV | Watch full episodes of ReBoot

"Welcome to Mainframe. Home to Guardian Bob, formatted to mend and defend. Join the fast-paced action and adventure as Bob and his friends—Dot, her brother Enzo and his trusty dog Frisket—fend off attacks from the superviruses known as Megabyte and Hexadecimal in their relentless pursuit of chaos
www.shoutfactorytv.com

The second season is much like the first one at the start but by the end it gets pretty exciting. Then the 3rd season is a dramatic shift in tone and focus but I enjoyed the heck out of it as a kid and still do. The ABC handcuffs apparently came off late in season 2 when they learned the network had no interest in renewing the show (but it was already co-financed by YTV in Canada and I want to say an English channel as well so they were secure in having the money for another season) and it makes a big difference as the story kind of "grows up" going into season 3.

Season 2 also has the absolutely fantastic X-Files parody episode that actually features Gillian Anderson playing the send-up of herself/Scully. Apparently she was a fan of the show and was married to one of the show's production designers at the time. Plus it was made in Vancouver just like the X-Files so she didn't have to go anywhere to record the voice work
 
Didn’t really feel it but I had a lot of locked shelves jiggle a bit for a few seconds.
 
I'm surprised some of you up north didn't feel it. I'm down here at the southern end of the other bay and I physically watched my office building wobble.
 
i hope this serves as a reminder to everyone to have their SHTF plans in place

brb moving into a doomsday castle
brb stockpiling toilet paper
brb planting potatoes
 
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slocal said:


Woohoo! @The Nemesis
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I am intrigued. I'll be more intrigued when we hear about what the movie hopes to accomplish in terms of tone and style because while I respect the creativity of Hideaki Anno, Shin Godzilla and its blood-barfing cosmic horror cancer monster take on Big G didn't really do it for me. I don't need campy space fights (though I'm not against campy space fights) but I want my Godzilla to look suitably big and lizardy.

Between it and the next Transformers movie 2023 has the potential to be very fun or maybe a trainwreck. We'll see. :laugh:
 
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