Post-Game Talk: 1 Down, 3 To Go

[TheNumber4]

Sure, but Oilers are great until they aren't. We play excellent and then fall apart, so there is a bigger context to the Oilers stats. Skinner's goal in game 3 was possibly the most backbreaking goal possible, it cost us the game, but the team has made many brutal mental errors in front of him too.

I don't think Skinner has been a factor in the finals outside of the game three goal. Ya if we had bob we win this series, but if they had McDavid we don't. It's not a real comparison to make, because we can't afford a ten million goalie, we have guys that are supposed to score on them, and they hadn't

Good take. Actually matches quite closely to The Athletic’s goalie expert Jesse Granger’s take on Skinner too:

“The save percentage hasn’t been good, the stats aren’t great. But you play for a team that is not good for goalie stats. The oilers play a style where they possess the puck a lot, and you don’t get a huge volume of shots, but then when they do give up a chance because they are so aggressive offensively it’s a really dangerous chance. So I’ll give him a bit of a break on his save percentage. I don’t think the oilers play like a team where any goalie can step in and play .920, I think it’s the opposite for him. If you get the best out of skinner you have a chance at the cup.“

 

[oil Leaks]

Maybe on the 4th line for Ryan

Foegele-McD-Hyman
RNH-Drai-Holloway
Janmark-Rico-Brown
Kane-McLeod-Perry

Kane-McLeod-Perry

 

[McShogun99]

Maybe on the 4th line for Ryan

Foegele-McD-Hyman
RNH-Drai-Holloway
Janmark-Rico-Brown
Kane-McLeod-Perry

If Kane is still injured I’d keep him out of the lineup. He hasn’t been good for weeks now and the Panthers aren’t really running around this series.

 

[La Bamba]

If Kane is still injured I’d keep him out of the lineup. He hasn’t been good for weeks now and the Panthers aren’t really running around this series.

All in all, I agree. It’s so unfortunate because a healthy Kane adds so much more than Ryan right now

 

[Spawn]

Sure, but Oilers are great until they aren't. We play excellent and then fall apart, so there is a bigger context to the Oilers stats. Skinner's goal in game 3 was possibly the most backbreaking goal possible, it cost us the game, but the team has made many brutal mental errors in front of him too.

I don't think Skinner has been a factor in the finals outside of the game three goal. Ya if we had bob we win this series, but if they had McDavid we don't. It's not a real comparison to make, because we can't afford a ten million goalie, we have guys that are supposed to score on them, and they hadn't

Every team has lapses in play. That’s literally what the goalie is there for. These are the two best teams left. These teams are going to get their chances.

Skinner has given 1 game that was even average through 4. Not good enough.

 

[oobga]

Florida having to cart their family across the continent back and forth has got to be a pain. let's make them come back to Edmonton and disappoint them all again

 

[alanschu]

The stats don't lie.

Is the QS metric that you use the "win above league average, unless it's under 20 shots at which point it's if save percentage is over 88.5%?

(Basically this one? Games Started, Quality Starts on Hockey-Reference.com | Sports-Reference.com )

 

[ThePhoenixx]

 

[Fishy McScales]

Dumbest argument I’ve read all day. If everything is based off of pay- we need to boot Nuge, Hyman, and Bouchard off the PP and play Nurse.

This is pretty damn dumb too.

The argument is about roster construction and where you've elected or had the opportunity to spend money.

In the Oilers' case they've thrown big money at Connor and Leon (and Darnell obv) which leaves less for other positions including goal, especially as Campbell flopped.

Florida spent a big chunk of cap on a goalie with mixed results, but Bob does have a higher ceiling.

Swapping goalies isn't just hypothetical, it's impossible cap wise and thus not meaningful or relevant. That's the argument here. By adding somewhere you have to subtract elsewhere.

 

[McSpecial DraiBlend]

I;m at a loss that some don't know who Philip Anselmo is??

Does this make you feel "BROKEN"?

 

[Zguy370]

Ya kinda strange to compare a 2.5m goalie to a 10 mil goalie and say "he's outplayed skinner in 3 of 4 games, it's all skinners fault"

With the way our team is constructed, skinners job is to give us a chance, and I'd argue he's done just that in 3/4 games this series

Should we be mad that McLeod hasn't been able to produce at auston matthews level this playoffs?

Ridiculous comparison. Then we can also make the argument that if we played Pickard for these 4 games at his $762,000 salary the series would likely be tied at 2 at the worst!

 

[CupofOil]

Connor brown back from the dead

I just take one issue with this post. Brown has been alive for a long time, people are seeing the scoring now and Game 4 was probably his best of the bunch but he's been the lynchpin, along with Janmark, on a very good 4th line for months now. The points didn't always come but these guys have been tilting the ice in the right direction consistently game after game and are both rock solid defensively. This isn't even touching on their immense PK contributions.

IF the Oilers somehow pull off the unthinakble and win his darn thing, I won't be thinking about McDraiman or Ekchard or Skinner immediately, Janmark and Brown are the two I'd think about first, that have been consistently great in their role even when others weren't spearheaded a historically good PK that won playoff games for them and gave the team life in a Game 4 of a Stanley Cup finals down 3-0 in the series.

 

[BlackDogg]

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Put that on the main boards in its own thread and lets see some fun reaction!!

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Oilers finished a perfect 4-0 in Game 4's this year
yay

 

[CupofOil]

It’s funny cause back when Gagner was actually good most of this board hated him. Mocked him. Used critical pictures of him as their avatars. He had few defenders. Now everyone loves him.

You either die a villain or live long enough to become a hero

On another note, this 2 day break feels like forever. I don't know how much of a role momentum really plays from game to game but that's probably not the best news for the Oilers giving the Panthers an extra day to recover from that beatdown.

 

[Fishy McScales]

You either die a villain or live long enough to become a hero

On another note, this 2 day break feels like forever. I don't know how much of a role momentum really plays from game to game but that's probably not the best news for the Oilers giving the Panthers an extra day to recover from that beatdown.

I think the Panthers are probably more eager to get right back at it than the Oilers.

 

[nally]

I thought I recorded it, but didn't. Can someone tell me where I can find a stream of game 4. Want to watch it again.

 

[foshizzle]

This is pretty damn dumb too.

The argument is about roster construction and where you've elected or had the opportunity to spend money.

In the Oilers' case they've thrown big money at Connor and Leon (and Darnell obv) which leaves less for other positions including goal, especially as Campbell flopped.

Florida spent a big chunk of cap on a goalie with mixed results, but Bob does have a higher ceiling.

Swapping goalies isn't just hypothetical, it's impossible cap wise and thus not meaningful or relevant. That's the argument here. By adding somewhere you have to subtract elsewhere.

No- the argument was Bob is better because he gets paid 10M.

 

[CupofOil]

Last night was the best moment as an oilers fan in 18 years

It was the Game 6 win against Dallas for me, hard to top clinching a SCF berth on home ice after an 18 year hiatus.
When they beat the Kings to clinch their first playoff spot in 11 years in '16-'17 actually had me welling up a bit because of a culmination of the heartache of the Decade of Darkness coming to an end kind of giving me a rush of feels in the moment but, yeah, 2 nights ago is up there even if it only merely kept them alive for another game.

 

[tardigrade81]

Losing isn’t an option, so we’re just not gonna lose.

WE WANT THE CUP

I like this !!!

 

[McShogun99]

It was the Game 6 win against Dallas for me, hard to top clinching a SCF berth on home ice after an 18 year hiatus.
When they beat the Kings to clinch their first playoff spot in 11 years in '16-'17 actually had me welling up a bit because of a culmination of the heartache of the Decade of Darkness coming to an end kind of giving me a rush of feels in the moment but, yeah, 2 nights ago is up there even if it only merely kept them alive for another game.

Same here. Hopefully the Oilers can win the Cup and then I'll have a new favorite moment.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Pat Burns had a good quote.
Goaltending is 80% unless you don't have it then it's 100%.

 

[oobga]

Pat Burns had a good quote.
Goaltending is 80% unless you don't have it then it's 100%.

Light Bob up one more time, and it might be a battle of no goaltending the rest of the way. I like our odds in that case

 

[Fishy McScales]

No- the argument was Bob is better because he gets paid 10M.

No, not precisely, but I've learned that trying to explain things to you is like reading "War and Peace" to your dog.

You're not sure why you're doing it when you know he's just gonna stare blankly and eventually start licking his balls instead.

 

[gretzkyoilers]

I like this !!!

No one who competes at the highest level wants 2nd or is "just happy to be here!"