GDT: 02/29/2016

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

It was a weak call in OT. Should have either not been called or have been offsetting.

Janmark hit his stick first which was let go, then turned the blade over and had it directly on Nyquist's glove and kept pulling.

It was a stupid and unnecessary play to make such an obvious hook right to the glove of a player at the blueline.

 

[Chaos]

Give me a break. Hooking on the hands is a penalty. Every time.

That's right. But somehow a reaching one hand hook on Nyquist's hands affected his ability to skate. Should have sent them both to the box.

 

[DeYarmond Edison]

Detroit won't be so lucky next time. Without the refs on their side they would have lost by 10, at least.

 

[Ilves Tampere]

Great game. Fast pace. Stars team is very good, one of the best of the league, one of the 3 candidates from the west. What a win for the Wings!

 

[The Red Line]

Strange that stars fans are complaining at all considering they would have scored zero goals if not for that obvious kick in and even more obvious icing call, but whatever just makes the win feel all the better.

 

[Ilves Tampere]

Strange that stars fans are complaining at all considering they would have scored zero goals if not for that obvious kick in and even more obvious icing call, but whatever just makes the win feel all the better.

Just saw the icing one and...you're right! So both goals...

 

[Martinez]

That's right. But somehow a reaching one hand hook on Nyquist's hands affected his ability to skate. Should have sent them both to the box.

Does it matter? Stick to the hands means penalty. What's the problem here.

 

[Elysian]

Does it matter? Stick to the hands means penalty. What's the problem here.

Embellishment also means penalty. What's the problem with his post?

 

[Dr Pepper]

It's impressive that you can determine the call on Janmark was worse than a play you admit you didn't even see.

Just basing it on what I suspect happened, that's all. Stick flies up, doesn't connect with Benn at all but he flinches as if it does (a pretty normal reaction if you ask me), ref makes the call. It happens. Again, I concede I could be way off on what actually happened.

He did a front flip? Waiting for the gif.

A poorly-executed one, I'll give him that. Didn't quite get to the "flip" part, but I'm sure he wanted to.

Either way, good sell, refs ate it up. Congrats on the win.

 

[Chaos]

Does it matter? Stick to the hands means penalty. What's the problem here.

I agreed that it was a hooking penalty. Im asking how that reaching, weak one handed hook somehow affected Nyquists ability to skate, right when he realized he had lost control of the puck.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Datsyuk and Zetterberg are still so good. That however was the most Red Wings call ever.

Was the Stars goal counting despite being kicked in and a missed icing call before the Stars tying goal "Red Wings calls" too?

 

[Martinez]

I agreed that it was a hooking penalty. Im asking how that reaching, weak one handed hook somehow affected Nyquists ability to skate, right when he realized he had lost control of the puck.

I guess they could fine him if they feel that way

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

It was a weak call in OT. Should have either not been called or have been offsetting.

The Stars first goal shouldn't have been allowed, and there should have been an icing call right before their second.

Also, the Stars should check if Jamie Benn gave himself whiplash selling the penalty late.

 

[Cold Medicine]

The Stars first goal shouldn't have been allowed, and there should have been an icing call right before their second.

Also, the Stars should check if Jamie Benn gave himself whiplash selling the penalty late.

The first Stars goal absolutely should have been allowed. The Detroit announcers thought that the goal shouldn't have counted because Sceviour squared himself to the puck that was flying towards him instead of just executing a regular hockey stop. But that's nonsense because goals are only disallowed when there is a "distinct kicking motion." Getting square to the puck is not kicking it, which is why the review was very short.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

The first Stars goal absolutely should have been allowed. The Detroit announcers thought that the goal shouldn't have counted because Sceviour squared himself to the puck that was flying towards him instead of just executing a regular hockey stop. But that's nonsense because goals are only disallowed when there is a "distinct kicking motion." Getting square to the puck is not kicking it, which is why the review was very short.

Actually, just about everyone here (including anti-Wing team fans) said it was a bad call and shouldn't have been allowed.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

The first Stars goal absolutely should have been allowed. The Detroit announcers thought that the goal shouldn't have counted because Sceviour squared himself to the puck that was flying towards him instead of just executing a regular hockey stop. But that's nonsense because goals are only disallowed when there is a "distinct kicking motion." Getting square to the puck is not kicking it, which is why the review was very short.

I don't think it just has to be soccer style kick. Squaring your feet digging your heels in and then with a forward motion propelling your feet outwards to try and push the puck forward with your feet to you stick shouldn't count, it did. That is not a natural stopping motion, it isn't keeping your blade down for a subtle redirection without moving your foot. Really the bigger reason you shouldn't be trying to stop like that was helped by all the puck watching the Wings did. If Quincey comes out and hits him while he is attempting that his tailbone is likely broken because it is a really stupid thing to attempt in terms of balance on your skates and left him open to a vicious hit.

It what it is. Was not super impressed with the refs all night. Janmark hooked Nyquist pretty badly, he lunged forward after the puck rolling away from because of said hook. His going forward and continuing to go after the puck is what spares him the embellishment in my opinion. If he makes no attempt at the puck and doesn't continue to play it trying to eliminate Hemsky who has it role to him, I think they would have rung him up along with Janmark. By doing those couple of things, he didn't do what classically gets you nailed for Diving.

His "embellishment" if you do feel that way cannot be much different than Benn's head snapping after throwing Kronwall stick into his own face. Was it a penalty? Yes, Kronwall's stick cannot make contact, did Benn make sure it was one and everyone saw it... Yes.

Janmark is making a stupid play, his hook is right in on Nyquist's hands as he is trying to turn up ice, really not that hard to believe he lost a little balance and it certainly caused him to lose the puck, he lunges for it and falls forward and the refs bought that as a plausible reaction to the play it would seem. I also thought a part of his forward dive/lunge for the puck was he was attempting to take out Hemsky should there be no call. Which honestly would have been thread worthy if Dallas skates off on a 2-0 with that kind of hook in the hands.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

For the first time, the Sharks have a really good 4th line.

 

[Alwalys]

man the habs are ... off the rails, upside-down in a ditch

 

[McDeez]

Haven't been this excited about the Sharks. 4th line is killing it.

 

[leaflover]

man the habs are ... off the rails, upside-down in a ditch

Just finished(PVR pause time) watching that game and the lack of fight in those dogs is alarming. The issues there look to go well beyond coaching.

 

[luthar]

Just finished(PVR pause time) watching that game and the lack of fight in those dogs is alarming. The issues there look to go well beyond coaching.

Given the following:
- We are icing alot of AHLer
- Our farmclub pipeline is quite bad
- Our goalies aren't good
- Our top players aren't playing good hockey (why risk injury when season is over ?!)
- Failure from the GM to add some offensive for a couple of years.

Not a really great perspective for the rest of the season imo

 

[leaflover]

Given the following:
- We are icing alot of AHLer
- Our farmclub pipeline is quite bad
- Our goalies aren't good
- Our top players aren't playing good hockey (why risk injury when season is over ?!)
- Failure from the GM to add some offensive for a couple of years.

Not a really great perspective for the rest of the season imo

Totally agree. There are plenty of problems.