“It could go to $9M… Sign Knies first and see what’s leftover… because he’s going to get offer sheeted.”

[notbias]

Lol 3rd wheel on the line. He has 1.64 p/60 excluding secondary assists, while Marner is 1.62. He fights, he's huge, he hits he goes to dirty areas and he has a playoff OT goal in just two playoff seasons.

Please start a poll asking who is the 3rd wheel on that line.

A playoff OT goal? Woah, amazing.

I know why you limited p/60 to just primary points, but it is funny, guessing you are a huge JT fan, I believe he is leading the team in that specific stat.

He has fewer fights than Holmberg this year.

He is overrated and some of the stats you listed are proving my point.

Still a great player, happy to have him, but $9 million is insane.

Not shocked you tried to bring down Marner though, your act is old.

 

[francis246]

I think this $9 million number comes from the contracts for Lafrenière and Slafkovksy, coupled with the rising salary cap, plus the inflation that would be required for an offer-sheet to even be an option.

All of that being said, by all accounts, Matthew Knies is very happy and comfortable being a Maple Leafs, and if the team steps forward with a long-term deal in the $7.5 million range, I fully expect Knies will sign it.

The only way I could see an offer sheet even entering the equation is if they tried to nickel and dime him or pushed a bridge rather than a long term deal, and even then, I don't think it's much of a threat.

This all seems like a clickbait topic to generate interest, not a real concern for Toronto.

Yup you summed it up well.

Plus those players were former first overall guys so that plays a role too

 

[Apex Predator]

Let him get offer sheeted. Sorry but come on, another high salary player? Let someone else pay him $9M and take the draft picks.

If he’s asking for that kind of money they should look at the trade market. 1st round pick, prospect and a roster player that can play. On top of that you have more cap space to use.

 

[Menzinger]

Similar numbers to Laf and he got an insane $7.450M.

If the Leafs want Knies on a 7-8 year deal it'll probably approach 7ish mil given the rising cap, which personally I'd still consider if it locked up the bulk of his prime years at a fixed rate.

Laf had former 1st overall pedigree which always impacts things too, which Knies can't turn to.

Worth noting nothing negative has yet to be reported on his current negotiations. It's just click bait speculation

 

[Antropovsky]

Please start a poll asking who is the 3rd wheel on that line.

A playoff OT goal? Woah, amazing.

I know why you limited p/60 to just primary points, but it is funny, guessing you are a huge JT fan, I believe he is leading the team in that specific stat.

He has fewer fights than Holmberg this year.

He is overrated and some of the stats you listed are proving my point.

Still a great player, happy to have him, but $9 million is insane.

Not shocked you tried to bring down Marner though, your act is old.

You did... lol made the first comparison of Knies to Marner, nobody else did. Or are you referring to a different line he was on with different linemates? Marner is on that line is he not?

So you can compare Knies to Marner and Matthews but nobody else can do the same? Maybe you need to shut up about Marner? Considering you were the first to bring the comparison between Knies and Marner?

Please clarify.

 

[notbias]

You did... lol made the first comparison of Knies to Marner, nobody else did. Or are you referring to a different line he was on with different linemates? Marner is on that line is he not?

So you can compare Knies to Marner and Matthews but nobody else can do the same? Maybe you need to shut up about Marner? Considering you were the first to bring the comparison between Knies and Marner?

Please clarify.

Just make the poll, go start a new thread, and make the poll, ask who is the 3rd option on that line.

You addressed 0 points in this post, you just whined, it really proves that your irrational dislike for a player is based on your fragile emotions and not the facts.

 

[thewave]

Anyone could jam us up just by OSing him to 9.15m 9.16m and it goes to 2x 1sts+

 

[thewave]

Please start a poll asking who is the 3rd wheel on that line.

A playoff OT goal? Woah, amazing.

I know why you limited p/60 to just primary points, but it is funny, guessing you are a huge JT fan, I believe he is leading the team in that specific stat.

He has fewer fights than Holmberg this year.

He is overrated and some of the stats you listed are proving my point.

Still a great player, happy to have him, but $9 million is insane.

Not shocked you tried to bring down Marner though, your act is old.

9M and term is not insane for him if Marner is getting 13m+. Look what rentals cost. Look what Laughton cost. 9m offer 1st 2nd and a third and you have a good player for years

 

[Antropovsky]

Just make the poll, go start a new thread, and make the poll, ask who is the 3rd option on that line.

You addressed 0 points in this post, you just whined, it really proves that your irrational dislike for a player is based on your fragile emotions and not the facts.

Knies turns 23 in October, Marner turns 29 in May.

- Knies is 8th in the league 5v5 goals/60 and 14th in total 5v5 goals. Knies isnt even done his second full season.

- Excluding secondary assists (so accounting for just goals and primary assists) Knies has a 1.64 p/60, while Marner has 1.62 g/60 this year.

- Marners p/60 are steadily on the decline 3.47, 2.78, 2.68 and now 2.39. Just as Tulsky said, prime was his early/mid 20s and now he's entering his decline years. Which aligns with Tulskys data. The fact Marner is tiny and slow also makes it his decline in his early 30s more likely.

I'd rather overpay 22 year old Knies 9 million x8 than overpay 29 year old Marner 13 million x 8.

 

[Ports]

Leafs will always match. If Knies is smart he takes a bridge deal for less money and signs for 8 years when the cap is $113M in three years.

 

[Leafsfan74]

Leafs will always match. If Knies is smart he takes a bridge deal for less money and signs for 8 years when the cap is $113M in three years.

Naw, if he is wise he signs for 5-6 years as Matthews did. That to me is the sweet spot and he would still be young when the renegotiation arrives.. You need some security, injuries can happen in the shower, walking down the street. Furthermore, you will never really feel like a part of the team with a broader contribution unless you have some term in your contract.

What happens if you sign for one year and either he or Matthews is injured and his numbers dip? What if he just has an off year?

I'd like commitment on both sides, he could earn some nice endorsements as well for signing longer term especially if the team goes deep.

 

[Menzinger]

Anyone could jam us up just by OSing him to 9.15m 9.16m and it goes to 2x 1sts+

Stuff like this never happens though

 

[Sundinisagod]

Another Leafs case of terrible mismanagement.

If this was the case we should've traded him for Rantanen and just paid him 12 to 12.5. Knies at 5-7 is great value and you can argue the extra player makes the difference, but Knies at 9 means we could another Kampf or another Domi lmao vs Rants at 12.

I was thinking the same but it was reported the Leafs would have offered Rants 13+ (taxes).

 

[Sundinisagod]

With the rising salary cap, I think the rfa offer sheet compensation will need to be adjusted accordingly. If a team is willing to pay an early 20's player 9.15, the compensation should be significantly more than what a middle 6 rental commands.

 

[Confucius]

I was thinking the same but it was reported the Leafs would have offered Rants 13+ (taxes).

Rumours..
JT took 2 million less, maybe, maybe not