Value of: Zibanejad to MN

[DanielBrassard]

I’m not a huge fan of Schneider, but I feel like the Rangers could use him in a trade for a better player rather than trading him just to entice Minnesota to take Mika.

 

[BagHead]

WTF did I just read? And you want New York to retain on top of this ridiculous smutty fan fic GM dungeon porn?
I would not move Ziba for Spurgeon alone. Dude is old with a bonkers cap. NY has plenty of RD. He does nothing for NY.
Spare us all these "Zibanejad has negative value" BS trades. The man has multiple 40 goal seasons, 90 point seasons, and had a down year in a year where the entire team played bad. I'm excited to see what Sullivan can get out of the guy.

Maybe y'all want to send Middleton, Hartman, and bump up 70 to 52 for Will Borgen. Bad proposals taste like , don't they.

To be fair, that isn't a Wild fan proposing that trade, and all the Wild fans said "yes, immediately", or "hell yes", or "sorry man, this favor's the Wild too much" or something along those lines.

Zibanejad and Schneider for Spurgeon and Rossi as a base?

Adding Rossi swings the pendulum hard. A little too hard.

 

[57special]

Hmmm...

Let me try to make it more balanced and less one-sided towards Minnesota.


to Minnesota Wild
Mika Zibanejad [10% retain] (5y @ $7.650m)
Braden Schneider (1y @ $2.200m, then RFA)

to New York Rangers
Frederick Gaudreau (3y @ $2.100m)
Jared Spurgeon (2y @ $7.575m)
( retaining $0.850m on Zibanejad for 5 years )


... and then if it's close but favours NYR slightly, you could add in the "Minnesota moves up from 52 to 43" if necessary.

That Zibanejad contract is bad. Spurgeon's runs out in two years. Not a fan of MN imposing yet another cap penalty on themselves after just getting out from under one.

Zibanejad is in obvious decline- was a really good player, but is no longer. % more years? Ouch. In contrast, Spurgeon came back from a tough 23-24 with a nice season, and still looks to have his legs. Schneider is ok...Gaudreau a nothing, but a cheap nothing. Zibanejad contract kills this deal for MN.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

I am not sure why Spurgeon is mentioned so much in here, seems pretty doubtful that he would be available. Guerin has been pretty upfront that there won’t be big moves at D and I would bet that the Wild would be exploring quite a few other options before they throw their captain with trade protection into the mix. Having said that, I could see the Wild having interest, I could see Z being a good fit with Kaprizov for at least a few seasons, but I definitely have reservations long term about fit.

 

[lakeshirts37]

to Minnesota Wild
Mika Zibanejad
Braden Schneider
3rd round pick (from CAR)

to New York Rangers
Fredrick Gaudreau

to Carolina Hurricanes
Jared Spurgeon
5th / 6th round pick (from NYR)

yikes

 

[BagHead]

That Zibanejad contract is bad. Spurgeon's runs out in two years. Not a fan of MN imposing yet another cap penalty on themselves after just getting out from under one.

Zibanejad is in obvious decline- was a really good player, but is no longer. % more years? Ouch. In contrast, Spurgeon came back from a tough 23-24 with a nice season, and still looks to have his legs. Schneider is ok...Gaudreau a nothing, but a cheap nothing. Zibanejad contract kills this deal for MN.

Oh snap, I didn't realize he had 5 more years left. Ok, yeah, now the Zib, Schneider, and a pick swap for Spurgeon makes more sense. I'd need to know why he's slowing down. Is his first step gone? Has his entire game started to slip or just parts of it? Would playing with Kaprizov turn him back into a 70+ point player? Rangers fans, please advise.

 

[Empoleon8771]

To be fair, that isn't a Wild fan proposing that trade, and all the Wild fans said "yes, immediately", or "hell yes", or "sorry man, this favor's the Wild too much" or something along those lines.

Adding Rossi swings the pendulum hard. A little too hard.

Yeah I feel like the NYR would have to add there but I don't know how much. That said, if they're moving Zibanejad out I definitely think Rossi makes sense as a replacement.

It's an older guy on a bloated contract and a young guy for an older guy on a bloated contract and a young guy, but I think Rossi is a bit too valuable for there to be nothing else added there. Or you can also say that Schneider isn't valuable enough as well.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Can’t see GMs wanting him

 

[Captain Mountain]

Been some rumblings lately on Mika’s future in NY:

According to Arthur Staple, the Rangers and Zibanejad's camp may have already decided that "moving on would be best." Since Zibanejad appears to be part of the decision to find a new home, it will make things much easier for the Rangers who had no leverage. The veteran has a full no movement clause that he seems to be willing to waive to go somewhere else. Any team won't likely do, but there has to be a handful of teams who will be playoff-bound that Zibanejad wouldn't mind playing for.

Rangers & Zibanejad May Have Made Up Decision On Future

Zibanejad might have made things easier for the Rangers this summer.

www.nhltraderumors.me

What’s it take from MN?

What Staple actually wrote:

There’s a chance that Drury has already worked it out with Zibanejad, who has five years at a $8.5 million average annual value remaining plus a full no-move clause, that moving on would be best...

..Zibanejad holds the cards, though, and he gave no indication before the season ended that he was interested in leaving. Of the headline-making moves Drury could still pull off in the coming weeks, this one helps the Rangers the most, especially since J.T. Miller and Vincent Trocheck have two of the center spots nailed down.

That doesn't sound like something has been decided. There's also this:

“We just had Mika’s new coach [Mike Sullivan] here at our home; he flew over from New York recently,” she said, according to a translated quote from Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet. “We also just got our new home in New York. I’m always shocked about how newspapers just spread things without considering the source.”


Between Sullivan’s Sweden visit and the purchase of a new home in New York, it sure seems like Zibanejad will be a Ranger on Opening Night of the 2025-26 season.

I don't think Sullivan would have flown to Sweden to convince Zibanejad to waive his NMC.

 

[cwede]

Not sure at all about this but...
Mika Zibanejad (10% retained) Braden Schneider (maybe?) MIN move up from 52 to 43
for
Jared Spurgeon

for a small, age >35 D -man?
If I'm NYR, I would never pay only either Zib or Schneider for him

Zib is a proven productive, all-situations top C

the buzzards, circling, hoping to underpay for NYR talent,
due to social-media and press overreaction to a team-wide poor season,
are keeping HFB really busy ...

 

[Kupo]

to Minnesota Wild
Mika Zibanejad
Braden Schneider
3rd round pick (from CAR)

to New York Rangers
Fredrick Gaudreau

to Carolina Hurricanes
Jared Spurgeon
5th / 6th round pick (from NYR)

This is horrendous for the Rangers. Please, no more NYR proposals from you.

 

[ctmagic]

I don't think Sullivan would have flown to Sweden to convince Zibanejad to waive his NMC.

Who knows what came of that meeting. They could have discussed many things and come to a number of differing conclusions.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Zibanejad (31 years old) 82 games, 62 points
Rossi (23 years old) 82 games, 60 points

It's certainly the way of the Wild to acquire guys who are past their best-by dates (Havlat, Heatley, Hanzal, Parise, Pominville) but I think the move should be sign Rossi to a cheaper deal than Zibanejad has and see if he can improve.

If Drury is interested in Zuccarello however, I know he's a great fit in Manhattan.

 

[n8]

The difference there is that Middleton and Hartman are both better than Will Borgen, and it wasn't a Wild fan who proposed the Mika trade.

Also, Mika doesn't have multiple 40 goal seasons or 90 point seasons. Stop lying and acting like we can't check hockeyreference. Spurgeon is old with a bonkers cap? He makes less than Zibanejad

Not lying. Just got the numbers wrong and didn't bother to fact check. Must have rounded his 39 goal season up in my head.
The main point is that at minimum, he is providing 2nd line depth, is a strong PKer. He needs to rediscover his one timer to be a threat on the PP.
81, 91, 72, 62 point seasons. To treat him like he has negative value is delusional. The main arguments I could see would be around his salary cap.

In the 34 games since the JT Miller acquisition, Zibanejad had 33 point, which only 7 of were on the PP. So he's really still performing as a 1st line player.
But sure, pretend he isn't a point per game player. Not directed at you @Sota Popinski more at the ridiculous Spurgeon proposal.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Who knows what came of that meeting. They could have discussed many things and come to a number of differing conclusions.

I'd tend to think that Zibanejad's wife wouldn't be pushing back on trade rumours through a reporter subsequent to the meeting if the conclusion was he wants out.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If the Rangers wanted out of Zibanejad, I'd probably give a shot, but not for anything too valuable.

 

[JKG33]

In the 34 games since the JT Miller acquisition, Zibanejad had 33 point, which only 7 of were on the PP. So he's really still performing as a 1st line player.
But sure, pretend he isn't a point per game player. Not directed at you @Sota Popinski more at the ridiculous Spurgeon proposal.

Is JT Miller coming with to carry his ass on his new team?

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I’d take him off the rangers with the 12Th pick with the intention of him being flipped to minn/tor/car at 5 mill

Yzerman’s only done the staal deal for assets so he’d never do it

 

[n8]

Is JT Miller coming with to carry his ass on his new team?

He didn't play all the games with JTM. Irrelevant and disingenuous argument.
The point is JTM helped jump start his game.
Did you even watch any of the Ranger games?

I’d take him off the rangers with the 12Th pick with the intention of him being flipped to minn/tor/car at 5 mill

Yzerman’s only done the staal deal for assets so he’d never do it

For Mortiz Seider? We accept. Bad proposals taste like , don't they? Zibanejad does not have negative value.

 

[JKG33]

He didn't play all the games with JTM. Irrelevant and disingenuous argument.
The point is JTM helped jump start his game.
Did you even watch any of the Ranger games?

More than I cared to, they seemed to always be one of the only games on when I was hitting the treadmill, and I like to see Miller.

Miller is the reason he wasnt complete ass this season

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

He didn't play all the games with JTM. Irrelevant and disingenuous argument.
The point is JTM helped jump start his game.
Did you even watch any of the Ranger games?


For Mortiz Seider? We accept. Bad proposals taste like , don't they? Zibanejad does not have negative value.

So keep him

 

[n8]

So keep him

Gladly. Have fun picking through the trash!

More than I cared to, they seemed to always be one of the only games on when I was hitting the treadmill, and I like to see Miller.

Miller is the reason he wasnt complete ass this season

Zibanejad's November-Jan was truly putrid. While Miller was a catalyst, Zibanejad's effort was already noticeably better in the 3-4 games prior to the trade. Body language, effort, even physical play. It was night and day but it wasn't translating as much on the score sheet. Miller helped turn an ass season around but he wasn't the only reason. If Zibanejad gets traded, that team is going to have someone he'll be able to rally around if you truly believe he doesn't have it to do it himself. My only main point is several posters insist on treating him like he's Andrew Copp or Marc-Édouard Vlasic.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Gladly. Have fun picking through the trash!

Zibanejad's November-Jan was truly putrid. While Miller was a catalyst, Zibanejad's effort was already noticeably better in the 3-4 games prior to the trade. Body language, effort, even physical play. It was night and day but it wasn't translating as much on the score sheet. Miller helped turn an ass season around but he wasn't the only reason. If Zibanejad gets traded, that team is going to have someone he'll be able to rally around if you truly believe he doesn't have it to do it himself. My only main point is several posters insist on treating him like he's Andrew Copp or Marc-Édouard Vlasic.

lame

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Is JT Miller coming with to carry his ass on his new team?

It's not like we don't have a guy.

 

[bert]

Hmmm...

Let me try to make it more balanced and less one-sided towards Minnesota.


to Minnesota Wild
Mika Zibanejad [10% retain] (5y @ $7.650m)
Braden Schneider (1y @ $2.200m, then RFA)

to New York Rangers
Frederick Gaudreau (3y @ $2.100m)
Jared Spurgeon (2y @ $7.575m)
( retaining $0.850m on Zibanejad for 5 years )


... and then if it's close but favours NYR slightly, you could add in the "Minnesota moves up from 52 to 43" if necessary.

Man that is so terrible for NYR.