Proposal: Zetterberg & Mantha for Plekanec, 1st & 2nd rd pick, & McCarron

Habs Halifax

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Looks like this may be the year Detroit misses the playoffs (Maybe lol). I wonder if they would be willing to trade Zetterberg to speed up the re-build?

Zetterberg & Mantha for Plekanec, 1st & 2nd rd pick, & McCarron. The biggest value the Wings get is they get a return for a guy they probably lose in the Expansion draft (Mantha). Habs give up a lot with McCarron, 1st, & 2nd but they get the 2nd line center they need and a young potential top 6 prospect that they will protect in the expansion draft.

Any truth to the Wings not protecting Mantha? Like to hear this from Wing Fans as appose to the Media.
 

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"Habs need to get a 2nd line center"

*Trades Plekanec for Zetterberg*

...I feel like I missed something here.

You watch Pleky play lately? He's used as a 2nd line center but is really a 3rd line center at best. He's lost a step in his speed, has to make quicker decisions, and turns the puck over way too much now. I heard he has like 8 goals in like 90 games or something like that. It's not just the 20 games this year.

Only reason he is in this deal is to make the salaries work.
 

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So they trade away a #2 center to acquire a #2 center. Difference is that Zetterberg has a pretty brutal contract.

Montreal passes.
 

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Looks like this may be the year Detroit misses the playoffs (Maybe lol). I wonder if they would be willing to trade Zetterberg to speed up the re-build?

Zetterberg & Mantha for Plekanec, 1st & 2nd rd pick, & McCarron. The biggest value the Wings get is they get a return for a guy they probably lose in the Expansion draft (Mantha). Habs give up a lot with McCarron, 1st, & 2nd but they get the 2nd line center they need and a young potential top 6 prospect that they will protect in the expansion draft.

Any truth to the Wings not protecting Mantha? Like to hear this from Wing Fans as appose to the Media.



I am not going to look to hard into the Cap situation here or standings or anything like that cause I am lazy but if the Habs are in first place like they are now come TDL and the Wings are out of it and want to get some assets I could see the Habs going after a player like Zetterberg for a 1st round pick Prospect type package. I think they would look to keep Plekanec to go for a cup
 

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The Wings won't trade Zetterberg.

The Wings shouldn't trade Mantha.

That's all.


Who are the wings protecting in the upcoming expansion draft? Is Mantha being protected? I'm curious to see a list of forwards they will probably protect. Zetterberg, Nielsen, Nyquist, Abdelkader, Tatar, Larkin, Sheahan? or is Mantha going to be protected instead of Sheahan?

If Mantha is not in the plans, then he gets picked up by LV IMO. Why not trade him to get future picks vs losing him for nothing?
 

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Wings won't trade Zetterberg. Trade doesn't make much sense for Montreal either. They should look to trade McCarron+ for Hanzal
 

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Who are the wings protecting in the upcoming expansion draft? Is Mantha being protected? I'm curious to see a list of forwards they will probably protect

Zetterberg, Nielsen, Nyquist, Abdelkader, Tatar, Larkin, Sheahan? or is Mantha going to be protected instead of Sheahan?

Larkin is exempt and Sheahan is absolutely not being protected over Mantha and Athanasiou.
 

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Zetterberg's one of Detroit's all time best players, they're not going to trade him much less to a division rival.
 

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I think a better option would be to grab Hanzal out of Phoenix.

I don't get the Hanzal love. What has that guy done to deserve 2nd line center attention from a Cup contender? He's injury prone too!

Id rather have an older Zetterberg than a Hanzal anyday! But I realize it will take a lot for the Wings to trade HZ. However he's 36, signed till 40, and I think the Wings need a mini re-build or run the risk of being a middle of the pack team. Not a good place to be
 

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Who are the wings protecting in the upcoming expansion draft? Is Mantha being protected? I'm curious to see a list of forwards they will probably protect. Zetterberg, Nielsen, Nyquist, Abdelkader, Tatar, Larkin, Sheahan? or is Mantha going to be protected instead of Sheahan?

If Mantha is not in the plans, then he gets picked up by LV IMO. Why not trade him to get future picks vs losing him for nothing?

dont believe the lies spewed out from hockey central

detroit will not expose mantha

nielsen is the ONLY DRW that has to be protected

after that zetts, nyqust, mantha, athansiaou and abdelkader will be as larkin is exempt plus dekeyser and mrazek for sure and sprou

you will see detroit protect the following
-nielsen
-zetterberg
-nyquist
-abdelakder
-mantha
-athansiaou
-tatar/sheahan
-dekeyser
-sproul
-kronwall
-mrazek

detroit will expose howard, ericsson and helm hoping one is picked up and will trade green, tatar or sheahan before that most likely at the TDL when we're out of the playoffs
 

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dont believe the lies spewed out from hockey central

detroit will not expose mantha

nielsen is the ONLY DRW that has to be protected

after that zetts, nyqust, mantha, athansiaou and abdelkader will be as larkin is exempt plus dekeyser and mrazek for sure and sprou

you will see detroit protect the following
-nielsen
-zetterberg
-nyquist
-abdelakder
-mantha
-athansiaou
-tatar/sheahan
-dekeyser
-sproul
-kronwall
-mrazek

detroit will expose howard, ericsson and helm hoping one is picked up and will trade green, tatar or sheahan before that most likely at the TDL when we're out of the playoffs

That's why I asked Detroit fans. Thanks for the info.
 

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Love Zetterberg but there's no reason for any other team to touch that contract, and I doubt he would be traded in the first place.
 

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Love Zetterberg but there's no reason for any other team to touch that contract, and I doubt he would be traded in the first place.

Zetterberg is 36 and will be 40 in his last year of the contract. Most of the money is front loaded but will hold a average cap hit of $6.083M so the contract is similar to that of Weber's. Personally, I'm not afraid of these contracts with players like Zetterberg and Weber. 2 things will happen in the last 2 years of the deal. 1) The player continues to be effective or 2) retires due to not being effective and no incentive playing for $1M a year actual salary.

What happens to a teams Cap Hit when a player retires early? The formula of Cap Hit = The sum of the difference between Cap Hit and Actual Salary divided by the amount of years the Player retires early and the Cap Hit goes to the team that benefited from the difference. In Zetterberg's case so far... there is a total of $10.5M Cap Hit that will be divided into the amount of years IF the player retires early. All that goes to Detroit no matter what team he plays for from this point moving forward.

Believe it or not, Nashville will get a $24.5M Cap hit if Weber retires early. If he retires one year early, it's a $24.5M Cap hit. If he retires 2 years early, it's $12.25M cap hit for 2 years. Etc...
 

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All value aside, why would a team who you say wants to speed up their rebuild also trade their best prospect (Mantha)?
 

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So the rumors are not true about Mantha being exposed?

:laugh: Where did this ridiculous rumor come from? The Wings barely have enough people worthy of protecting, and someone is starting rumors that our best prospect is going to be exposed?
 

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Why would the "rebuilding" Red Wings trade Mantha?

Zetterberg and Mantha is OP trying to get the pieces he wants for Montreal both now and in the future. Trades very, VERY rarely work like that. You don't trade for a coveted vet and a coveted rookie in the same trade, because DET wouldn't be in a situation where they're trying to move both at once.

Call the Coyotes and offer McCarron and a pick for Hanzal.
 

Lebowski

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Why would the "rebuilding" Red Wings trade Mantha?

OP is trying to get the pieces he wants for Montreal both now and in the future. Trades very, VERY rarely work like that.

Call the Coyotes and offer McCarron and a pick for Hanzal.

McCarron won't be traded for Hanzal, let alone with a pick on top of it.

As for this trade, not interested. I like Mantha, but he's not a need per say. McCarron isn't going anywhere, and taking on Zetterberg and his contract for Plekanec on top of two high picks does nothing for us. It's not as if Zetterberg is a substantial upgrade over Plekanec at this stage in his career anyway.
 

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:laugh: Where did this ridiculous rumor come from? The Wings barely have enough people worthy of protecting, and someone is starting rumors that our best prospect is going to be exposed?

It came from Craig Button on his list he showed Mantha being exposed no way would Holland ever leave him exposed. From all accounts he wont even trade him for any D help so why would he leave him exposed Holland more then likely would be fired if he did that.
 

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