Zetterberg and Datsyuk or Yzerman and Fedorov?

[DitchMarner]

Which combination was better: Dead puck era ('97-'04) Yzerman and Fedorov or post 2005 Lockout to 2012-2013 Lockout Datsyuk and Zetterberg?

Obviously Yzerman and Fedorov were better in their best seasons, but seasons like 1989 and 1994 fall outside the time range for this poll.

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[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yzerman/Fedorov

I was lucky to watch this duo when I was growing up. They were the best two-way center duo the last 35 years.

 

[JaegerDice]

I think Yzerman and Federov were better, but given the rule changes, Zetterberg and Datsyuk were more fun to watch

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Fedorov actually showed up in the playoffs. Datsyuk is the weak link imo.

 

[authentic]

In the timeframe you’re giving here I am inclined to take Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Zetterberg in his prime is better than post 1997 Yzerman and Datsyuk in his prime is better than post 1997 Fedorov for the most part, although Fedorov still had a few great playoff runs after this point I believe.

I’m shocked at the results here. Did people not read the question properly that it’s only post 1997 for Fedorov and Yzerman? This leads me to believe Datsyuk and Zetterberg are much more underrated than I had previously thought.

 

[Regal]

In the timeframe you’re giving here I am inclined to take Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Zetterberg in his prime is better than post 1997 Yzerman and Datsyuk in his prime is better than post 1997 Fedorov for the most part, although Fedorov still had a few great playoff runs after this point I believe.

I’m shocked at the results here. Did people not read the question properly that it’s only post 1997 for Fedorov and Yzerman? This leads me to believe Datsyuk and Zetterberg are much more underrated than I had previously thought.

I feel like peak is definitely Datsyuk and Z in these time periods. Overall it might be closer, but I’d have to look closer.

But even if we take 96-97 to 01-02 when Yzerman’s knee fell off, he was 21st in points and 19th in points per game (min 200 games), if we extend it to 02-03 for Fedorov, he was 33rd in points and 29th in points per game. Meanwhile from 05-06 to 12-13, Datsyuk was 6th in points and 6th in points per game, while Zetterberg was 11th in points and 15th in points per game.

Even in the playoffs, in those same time frames, Yzerman was 5th in points and 9th in points per game (min 25 games), Fedorov was 4th in points and 8th in points per game, Zetterberg was 1st in points and 8th in points per game, and Datsyuk was 5th in points and 19th in points per game.

I guess the big thing is whether Datsyuk’s inconsistent playoff production holds him back

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

It’s inarguably Yzerman Federov.

 

[Midnight Judges]

I get the sense people aren't reading the OP or are making up their minds based on the thread title and then kinda already predisposed by the time they read the OP.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

Man, I'd like to see both of those pairs in their primes head to head.

 

[Felidae]

Neither Yzerman or Fedorov were top 10 offensive players in the league between 97-04, and while Yzerman was contending for the selke, Fedorov barely got any votes in this timeframe.

Meanwhile, datsyuk was a top 5 offensive player that was winning Selke trophies post lockout, and Zetterberg not too far behind.

This should be the lockout wings decisively, and that's not a knock on the other duo considering one was near the end of their prime while the other some may say was underachieving, at least until postseason.

 

[geebster]

People just voting on names and not looking at the years. This is so easily Zetterberg and Datsyuk. If you gave me the best version of Yzerman and the best version of Fedorov then theyd win, but those arent the years for that.

 

[authentic]

I feel like peak is definitely Datsyuk and Z in these time periods. Overall it might be closer, but I’d have to look closer.

But even if we take 96-97 to 01-02 when Yzerman’s knee fell off, he was 21st in points and 19th in points per game (min 200 games), if we extend it to 02-03 for Fedorov, he was 33rd in points and 29th in points per game. Meanwhile from 05-06 to 12-13, Datsyuk was 6th in points and 6th in points per game, while Zetterberg was 11th in points and 15th in points per game.

Even in the playoffs, in those same time frames, Yzerman was 5th in points and 9th in points per game (min 25 games), Fedorov was 4th in points and 8th in points per game, Zetterberg was 1st in points and 8th in points per game, and Datsyuk was 5th in points and 19th in points per game.

I guess the big thing is whether Datsyuk’s inconsistent playoff production holds him back

Well these numbers you post make it not nearly as close as I thought. Amazing that Datsyuk and Zetterberg aren’t winning this really.

 

[authentic]

Man, I'd like to see both of those pairs in their primes head to head.

In their primes they would be a good matchup. I think people tend to forget how good Datsyuk and especially Zetterberg were at their peaks. Speaks volumes that so many believe a far past his prime Yzerman and Fedorov outside of the 3 year window he was an elite point producer are better.

 

[authentic]

People just voting on names and not looking at the years. This is so easily Zetterberg and Datsyuk. If you gave me the best version of Yzerman and the best version of Fedorov then theyd win, but those arent the years for that.

Even then I don’t think it’s given they would win. Zetterberg could very well shut down a peak Yzerman and Fedorov and Datsyuk would be a good matchup even if a slight edge to Fedorov at his peak.

I feel like peak is definitely Datsyuk and Z in these time periods. Overall it might be closer, but I’d have to look closer.

But even if we take 96-97 to 01-02 when Yzerman’s knee fell off, he was 21st in points and 19th in points per game (min 200 games), if we extend it to 02-03 for Fedorov, he was 33rd in points and 29th in points per game. Meanwhile from 05-06 to 12-13, Datsyuk was 6th in points and 6th in points per game, while Zetterberg was 11th in points and 15th in points per game.

Even in the playoffs, in those same time frames, Yzerman was 5th in points and 9th in points per game (min 25 games), Fedorov was 4th in points and 8th in points per game, Zetterberg was 1st in points and 8th in points per game, and Datsyuk was 5th in points and 19th in points per game.

I guess the big thing is whether Datsyuk’s inconsistent playoff production holds him back

Curious now if anyone is willing to retract their vote after seeing this.

 

[M88K]

Which combination was better: Dead puck era ('97-'04) Yzerman and Fedorov or post 2005 Lockout to 2012-2013 Lockout Datsyuk and Zetterberg?

Obviously Yzerman and Fedorov were better in their best seasons, but seasons like 1989 and 1994 fall outside the time range for this poll.

not sure why you're giving Datsyuk and Zetterberg 8yrs of stats to go off of, while giving only 7 to Yzerman and Fedorov, or including a Mighty Ducks year for Fedorov either, except to make the comparison even more disingenuous than comparing twilight years to prime years to begin with.

97-98 thru 03-04
Total REG
912-328-447-775

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total PO
153-47-89-136

VS
Total REG
1144-428-770-1198

PO
Total
210-85-115-200
if you make an it even 8yrs (Including 96 for the DPE) you add another

Total REG
155-52-96-148

PO
total
40-15-18-33


making DPE grand total
PO
193-62-107-169

Reg
1067-380-543-923

VS
Datsyuk/Zetterberg Prime
PO
210-85-115-200

Reg
1144-428-770-1198


Paces
DPE
.86ppg, .35gpg (reg)
.87ppg, .32 gpg (PO)

1.04ppg, .37gpg (reg)
.95ppg, .40 gpg (PO)

The fact that this includes age 33-39 season for Yzerman and both he and Fedorov missed almost a full season each within the sample set(16gp reg season for Yzerman and 21gp season for Fed), and Yzerman played some of those on 1 leg, and the numbers are as close as they just shows how much better the duo with Yzerman was. (Getting to watch both duos, makes it even easier to choose)
That said, with the favorable seasons, both being in their primes, it would be hard to not take Zetterberg and Datsyuk, but I think i'd stick with the DPE, hoping they don't have the injury issues they did.