Value of: Zegras to Pittsburgh

[Zegs2sendhelp]

24 year old winger that's 0.5 ppg, injury prone, significantly overpaid at 5.75 mill and a huge liability. Ducks are better off keeping him and hoping he gets his act together.

Maybe you can explain to me how he is a huge liability...

 

[McDonald19]

Why is Killorn in the top 6

The coach insists on permanently attaching Killorn to Carlsson, unfortunately.

 

[57special]

1st in the mid/late teens, unless Zegras somehow turns it around in the last part of the season.

 

[FiveTacos]

1st in the mid/late teens, unless Zegras somehow turns it around in the last part of the season.

A 1st in the mid/late teens has a much lower chance of ever becoming an impactful player than Zegras does. Many of those guys never even become NHL players at all.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

It's only protected for this year, it slides to an unprotected 2026 1st if they finish with a top-13 pick this year. That's why I'm hesitant to trade it, if the Rangers continue to suck that pick could easily be a top-10 pick in 2026.

If I knew that pick was going to be like 20th overall, I'd have no issues doing that plus Koivunen for Zegras. But we don't know where that pick is going to fall. But regardless, based on what Ducks fans are saying here a mid/late 1st isn't particularly appealing in a return for Zegras.

You sound like the Habs fans that for 3 years straight have been relying on Florida failing to get a higher 1st.

Idk, if you aren't willing to part with any of the 3 1sts you have between this year and next I don't think you will be able to offer Anaheim anything they would want.

 

[DearDiary]

Maybe you can explain to me how he is a huge liability...

A player who gets paid as a top 6 forward, doesn't play much due to injuries and doesn't contribute much offence when he does play. How is that not a liability? Obviously the Ducks are way under the cap, so it doesn't really hurt them as much.

 

[tomd]

Why is Killorn in the top 6

There are at least 6.25 million reasons why...

 

[Zirakzigil]

Problem with Zegras is hes more valuable to the Ducks than in a trade. He could end up being a top line center just as easily as never putting it all together. No team will give up massive assets for that risk and the Ducks dont want to get burned selling low. Similar situation to Buffalo and Cozens.

 

[dracom]

every zegras thread becomes the same. always people trashing zegras without actually watching him. no, you don't get Zegras for meh returns that don't actually help improve the team now (like OP's proposal), you don't get Z for mid round 1st round picks. if you want Zegras, you have to offer something that is going to force the team to trade him. if you're not offering that, don't bother asking.

 

[MoneyManny]

The time to trade him was 2 years ago. They might as well keep him now since his upside is probably higher than whatever they'd receive for him.

 

[FiveTacos]

The time to trade him was 2 years ago. They might as well keep him now since his upside is probably higher than whatever they'd receive for him.

Really, you'd have traded him at 22? Why?

 

[biturbo19]

Anaheim ain't gonna wanna sell low and PIT doesn't have what it takes to buy high, short of trading their own 2025 1st.

I think this is pretty much the long and short of it.


Ducks can't really afford to, and don't really have any particular pressing reason to sell a distressed asset with the talent level of Zegras at pennies on the dime. And realistically...the Penguins can't afford to throw all that much at the Ducks to entice them to move off the player either.

It's the sort of deal that kind of makes sense in some regards and might even be better for some of the players involved with a change of scenery...but the practicality of it just isn't there. The teams that would be involved just don't have the right situations and assets to make it work in a way that'd be satisfactory to both.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think this is pretty much the long and short of it.


Ducks can't really afford to, and don't really have any particular pressing reason to sell a distressed asset with the talent level of Zegras at pennies on the dime. And realistically...the Penguins can't afford to throw all that much at the Ducks to entice them to move off the player either.

It's the sort of deal that kind of makes sense in some regards and might even be better for some of the players involved with a change of scenery...but the practicality of it just isn't there. The teams that would be involved just don't have the right situations and assets to make it work in a way that'd be satisfactory to both.

I don’t even think it’s an afford thing

Team is better with zegras on the ice, and in the line up…. He’s shown he can score at a 2nd line rate…. Now he’s showing he can play a more complete game. He just needs to stay healthy(2 fluke injuries) and find chemistry/consistency in doing both things and he’ll be a very solid player for us.

I still think zegras is going to be a big part of anaheims future

 

[Remparts666]

“Trash return like that”

Not only can the kid can’t stay healthy but he’s been pacing for ~39 points per season over the last two years and carry a 6.5M cap hit.

He’s 23 years old going 24 in a month. The guy isn’t physical at all and couldn’t play D to save his life. He’s a Jo Drouin 2.0 and certainly wouldn’t warrant the kind of return you have in mind. Let’s not act like he’s some sort of prize right now.


Oh yeah I bet they’re very happy with him pacing at 39 points yet again at his current cap hit. They must be amazed by his high end play at the moment

I can’t believe people in Anaheim are still living in la la land regarding Zegras.

That is precisely why they should not trade him . Keep the guy with upside and see what happens . He had to very good season at an early age, this is not frequent.

 

[ohcomeonref]

every zegras thread becomes the same. always people trashing zegras without actually watching him. no, you don't get Zegras for meh returns that don't actually help improve the team now (like OP's proposal), you don't get Z for mid round 1st round picks. if you want Zegras, you have to offer something that is going to force the team to trade him. if you're not offering that, don't bother asking.

People never watch him play but have strong feelings about him. Jealous weirdos man.

 

[MoneyManny]

Really, you'd have traded him at 22? Why?

If they were going to trade him that's when they would of gotten max value return imo.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If they were going to trade him that's when they would of gotten max value return imo.

Maybe they were never going to trade him….

Crazy idea

 

[FerrisRox]

A player who gets paid as a top 6 forward, doesn't play much due to injuries and doesn't contribute much offence when he does play. How is that not a liability? Obviously the Ducks are way under the cap, so it doesn't really hurt them as much.

It doesn't hurt them in any way, shape or form.

I don't think you understand what a "liability" even is.

 

[LuGBuG]

Don't see the Ducks moving on from him as a depreciated asset. They're not in a rush. Unless he's a cancer, they'll keep him into next season and see if he rebounds in the last year of his deal.

He’s not a cancer. No evidence supporting that and endless evidence saying otherwise. When Vatrano was asked about him this year if he was just misunderstood and what he’s like he couldn’t wipe the smile of his face and said “he’s just the best” multiple times.

 

[LuGBuG]

Maybe you can explain to me how he is a huge liability...

@DearDiary runs into every Zegras thread trashing him, when it’s been clear every single time he doesn’t watch him. Must of been really hurt over his copy of NHL having him in the cover.

 

[FiveTacos]

If they were going to trade him that's when they would of gotten max value return imo.

By that reasoning, you'd never keep a young prospect past their ELC.

 

[Nico Hischier]

I think the ducks should change coaches before they trade Zegras.

 

[57special]

A 1st in the mid/late teens has a much lower chance of ever becoming an impactful player than Zegras does. Many of those guys never even become NHL players at all.

There is no guarantee with any draft pick.... including Zegras. Is Zegras an impactful player right now? I would say no, absolutely not. At this point, he is a project. He is an offensive player who isn't scoring, brings no physical presence, little defense, is terrible on FO's, and has had injury problems in two straight years.

 

[BLNY]

He’s not a cancer. No evidence supporting that and endless evidence saying otherwise. When Vatrano was asked about him this year if he was just misunderstood and what he’s like he couldn’t wipe the smile of his face and said “he’s just the best” multiple times.

As I said previously, I didn't imply that he was. Merely that this would be the only reason to trade him now.

 

[dracom]

There is no guarantee with any draft pick.... including Zegras. Is Zegras an impactful player right now? I would say no, absolutely not. At this point, he is a project. He is an offensive player who isn't scoring, brings no physical presence, little defense, is terrible on FO's, and has had injury problems in two straight years.

Once again another person who doesn’t watch Zegras play, trying to tell others about how bad Zegras is lol.