Proposal: Zegras -> MTL

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HanSolo

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I've already stated I don't want zegras.

Speaking of that good faith arguments thing though, interesting that multiple firsts (including one from a team that been bottom 5 two seasons in a row) is considered scraps when you're trying to make a point.
When they're lottery protected it's inherently an asset with value limitations. You get this pick unless it's high enough to help our rebuild then you gotta wait another year to find out where the pick ends up in the draft position blender. To say nothing of the fact that if it ends up being a 2025 pick, it's not as conducive to Anaheim's rebuild timeline.

I don't just say these things arbitrarily.
 
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Baksfamous112

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I don’t think Montreal can even afford Zegras (contract wise) at this point. Also, Dach would need to go the other way

Another problem is your top 3 forwards would be Suzuki, Caufield and Zegras. That could be a problem comes playoff time.
 

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I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.
Bold. Bold to dub the... well... bolded off the table for Trevor freaking Zegras.

I can't imagine Anaheim wants Montreal's fourth best prospect, seventh best roster player, or picks with conditions for a guy like that. Gotta give to get, and you're not giving anything you'd miss.

I just know that Habs fans are the type of people that send $150 offers for $600 items on facebook marketplace.
 

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That's fair enough, but he is at least an example one of the pieces that would need to be on the board. I don't really see Anaheim and Montreal as good trading partners anyway.
Same... i feel like zegras wouldnt want to play in Montreal anyway.... no way i could see him signing 8 years.
 

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I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.
Zegras costs you Suzuki+ or 2 off Reinbscker , Slav, Caufield , top 5 pick.
 

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When they're lottery protected it's inherently an asset with value limitations. You get this pick unless it's high enough to help our rebuild then you gotta wait another year to find out where the pick ends up in the draft position blender. To say nothing of the fact that if it ends up being a 2025 pick, it's not as conducive to Anaheim's rebuild timeline.

I don't just say these things arbitrarily.

I'm sure Ottawa was gutted when they only received a protected first for Karlsson and it ended up being stutzle.

Or Colorado when they got a protected 1st from the sens and it ended up giving them Byram at #4.

A team that's bad enough to be in the lottery will probably still be around the lottery the next year.
 
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HanSolo

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I'm sure Ottawa was gutted when they only received a protected first for Karlsson and it ended up being stutzle.

Or Colorado when they got a protected 1st from the sens and it ended up giving them Byram at #4.

A team that's bad enough to be in the lottery will probably still be around the lottery the next year.
Maybe so, but Anaheim is in no hurry to trade Zegras. In any case this is a pointless exercise in semantics. When I said scraps I was clearly referring to here have two players from this group of guys with middling to low value and/or more uncertain potential.
 

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Maybe so, but Anaheim is in no hurry to trade Zegras. In any case this is a pointless exercise in semantics. When I said scraps I was clearly referring to here have two players from this group of guys with middling to low value and/or more uncertain potential.

It was 2 1sts from non-playoff teams + any prospect outside the top 3 from a top ~5 prospect pool in the league.
 

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I get what people are saying but honesty find a comparison and see how much they got. How much better is Zegras then Fiala, PLD, etc

He won’t be traded but if he did demand a trade and sat out a year ( played this year in KHL ) then next offseason I could see him going for that package maybe less because he’d be absolutely hated by fans/teammates but I guess he isn’t a like that so the point is moot? Idk not going to be traded so I’m just don’t see a plausible situation besides that.
 

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It was 2 1sts from non-playoff teams + any prospect outside the top 3 from a top ~5 prospect pool in the league.
it's a shitty offer, and you know it's a shitty offer. nobody wants to be on the receiving end of a quantity offer. Zegras differs from the likes of Fiala, Dubois, Duchene, because he's only 22 years old. A couple of firsts and a B prospect is what you pay for a 27 year old with a trade demand, not a young star with the bad fortune to be on a terrible team.
 

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I get what people are saying but honesty find a comparison and see how much they got. How much better is Zegras then Fiala, PLD, etc

He won’t be traded but if he did demand a trade and sat out a year ( played this year in KHL ) then next offseason I could see him going for that package maybe less because he’d be absolutely hated by fans/teammates but I guess he isn’t a like that so the point is moot? Idk not going to be traded so I’m just don’t see a plausible situation besides that.
Tough to compare zegras to fiala/PLD situations. And the obvious age difference and potential difference.

At the time of PLD and Fiala trade we basically knew what they were as NHL talent.... for zegras its still pretty unknown how good he can actually be.
 

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I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.
You’re getting Zegras, and Newhook is untouchable?
 

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I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.
No deal with a D can be made They already got Drysdale Zelleweger Warren Minty, Luneau and Helleson. They have enough D. If Montréal want to get Zegras it start with Dach, a 1st and more.
To me The price doesn't worth it but Zegras Had a very high value
 

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doubt much would entice Duck fans to move him, and I would be the same way if Zegras was a king. Still if, and its a big if, things sour between him and the Ducks crazier things have happened. Would take more than this though. From Montreal would think Slafkovsky ++
 
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