Proposal: Zegras -> MTL

[Mackiaveli]

I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.

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[RebuildinVan]

Zegras for a bunch of lesser pieces?

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

If Zegras were to hit the market (he won’t), so many teams would line up to beat that. You can’t have untouchable prospects if Z is your target.

 

[Nabrules]

So you want Zegras for a pick in the 10-30 range and a medicore prospect?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.

Why would zegras sign 8 years in Montreal?

+ way to many untouchable and nothing really interesting for us to choose from

 

[BB88]

I don’t think the idea of a potential 2025 1st is exciting

 

[Kahvi]

You can’t have untouchable prospects if Z is your target.

To the OP, read this until you understand what it means.

 

[Prairie Habs]

So you want Zegras for a pick in the 10-30 range and a medicore prospect?

It's top 3 protected, so its pretty bad faith to say the pick can only go as high as 10. That is, unless you are ignoring the protection and you just think Montreal is likely to be anywhere from 10th last to losing in the final 4 of the playoffs?

Either way, zebras wouldn't be someone I target. He's like a flashier Suzuki but gets caved in in his own end rather than having D as a strength. He would be a good finishing piece to an ready good roster, but I wouldn't make it a priority to bring him in for a rebuild.

 

[Snowman]

I agree with the others. A protected first and a couple throw in level prospects and/or picks would receive no consideration from Anaheim.

It may be hard for some fans to accept, but a trade of pieces you no longer want or value for a piece of high value, aren't enticing to the team with the high value player.

 

[Gliff]

LOL I love it.

1st is protected.
Top 3 prospects are untouchable.
All young NHLers are untouchable.

f***ing terrible.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

So Zegras for spare change except for one draft pick that's either unlikely to be top 5 or still 2 years away from even being picked and thus 4-5 years away from an NHL impact...


Ya, how could Anaheim ever say no!!

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It's top 3 protected, so its pretty bad faith to say the pick can only go as high as 10. That is, unless you are ignoring the protection and you just think Montreal is likely to be anywhere from 10th last to losing in the final 4 of the playoffs?

Either way, zebras wouldn't be someone I target. He's like a flashier Suzuki but gets caved in in his own end rather than having D as a strength. He would be a good finishing piece to an ready good roster, but I wouldn't make it a priority to bring him in for a rebuild.

Eakins system made lindholm look like garbage in his own end…. 1 year away from Eakins crap system and lindholm was 4th in Norris voting.

It’ a very exaggerated thing by opposing fans or zegras haters… that want to devalue him or try to pump up their guy. He’s not going to win a selke but he’ll be fine

 

[HanSolo]

LOL I love it.

1st is protected.
Top 3 prospects are untouchable.
All young NHLers are untouchable.

f***ing terrible.

At least you can't argue with the freedom of choice. Even if that choice is from all the expendable scraps.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

LOL I love it.

1st is protected.
Top 3 prospects are untouchable.
All young NHLers are untouchable.

f***ing terrible.

No newhook or dach for us

 

[Prairie Habs]

So Zegras for spare change except for one draft pick that's either unlikely to be top 5 or still 2 years away from even being picked and thus 4-5 years away from an NHL impact...


Ya, how could Anaheim ever say no!!

You don't think 2 1sts + choice of prospects that also includes recent firsts is enough for a 3.5M dollar player according to his GM?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

So Zegras for spare change except for one draft pick that's either unlikely to be top 5 or still 2 years away from even being picked and thus 4-5 years away from an NHL impact...


Ya, how could Anaheim ever say no!!

I love how newhook and dach were on the untouchable list

 

[HanSolo]

You don't think 2 1sts + choice of prospects that also includes recent firsts is enough for a 3.5M dollar player according to his GM?

If you're going to run the gamut of scraps for stars type proposals, at least argue in good faith.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

You don't think 2 1sts + choice of prospects that also includes recent firsts is enough for a 3.5M dollar player according to his GM?

They are negotiating….

Maybe pv offered 8x8 and zegras wanted 9?

Pv has to get something back on a bridge deal he’s not going to pay zegras 3x 8, nor should he

 

[McJedi]

I'll keep it simple - if ANA decided to consider offers, I would assume they would want a futures-based package (McTavish, Leo, Minty, Zellweger timeline)

Montreal's 2024 1st (top 3 protected - if MTL wins the lottery, Anaheim gets 2025 1st unprotected)

Calgary's 1st (and the conditions associated with it)
Primeau (AHL/Depth goalie option for if they move Gibson)

Any prospect bar Hutson/Reinbacher/Slafkovsky OR NHLer bar Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Newhook, Matheson.

This would be one of Beck, Mailloux, Barron, Harris, Farrell, Roy, Anderson - Matheson should be available but I think that would probably be an overpay?

Habs would likely give Zegras a contract similar to Suzuki/Caufield, setting up Dach for the same deal which would give them 4 forwards around that $8m to build around. He and Cole are good friends, and age/skill wise Zegras fits very well for Montreal.

For Anaheim, I don't think they should move Zegras but crazier things have happened - they get 2 1sts both likely to be in that 8-15 range and can add another prospect. Losing Zegras without adding NHL talent back likely sets them up for another top 3 pick in another top-heavy draft.

Keep adding. At least another 1st + good prospect (Barron level).

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Zegras is not the type of player we should be targetting anyways , and this offer is horrifyingly bad for Anaheim

 

[MXD]

Non. Calvère, non.

 

[Prairie Habs]

If you're going to run the gamut of scraps for stars type proposals, at least argue in good faith.

I've already stated I don't want zegras.

Speaking of that good faith arguments thing though, interesting that multiple firsts (including one from a team that been bottom 5 two seasons in a row) is considered scraps when you're trying to make a point.

 

[Barnaby]

You don't think 2 1sts + choice of prospects that also includes recent firsts is enough for a 3.5M dollar player according to his GM?

No, I don’t. Not for a guy with Z’s upside. Mid 1sts and expendable prospects don’t get you a guy who should be an 80+ point player.

 

[Gliff]

No newhook or dach for us

Imagine Newhook and his 66 career points playing on the 3rd best offensive team in the NHL in that time being untouchable for Zegras, who had as many points this seaosn on the 2nd worst offense in the NHL.

You don't think 2 1sts + choice of prospects that also includes recent firsts is enough for a 3.5M dollar player according to his GM?

Tell me you know nothing about negotiating, NHL contract statuses, or player values without telling me.

 

[innitfam]

Dach certainly would need to be on the table for a Zegras trade to MTL.