Player Discussion Zack Kassian

[Three On Zero]

Every time I see this oft-repeated idea that Kassian needs fans in the stands to play competently, I have to point out how f***ing bananas you sound. It's abject lunacy and a fairytale wish. Do you know how foolish you sound to 95% of the population?
I'm sorry if it seems I'm jumping on you, but like, jesus christ, give your head a f***ing shake.
Just because a handful of people repeat an illogical assumption ad nauseum does not make it any more legitimate.

It’s actually a pretty common thing amongst athletes, these guys thrive off the crowd and energy they produce

 

[ManofSteel55]

Every time I see this oft-repeated idea that Kassian needs fans in the stands to play competently, I have to point out how f***ing bananas you sound. It's abject lunacy and a fairytale wish. Do you know how foolish you sound to 95% of the population?
I'm sorry if it seems I'm jumping on you, but like, jesus christ, give your head a f***ing shake.
Just because a handful of people repeat an illogical assumption ad nauseum does not make it any more legitimate.

Fans in the stands won't take a guy from useless to superstardom, but we've seen what happens to Kassian when the crowd gets going. It does appear to give him an extra energy boost. I don't think you can write it off completely...BUT

I don't think his struggles can be chalked up to no fans though. I suspect his injuries had a big part of it. He was pretty decent in the playoffs actually.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It’s actually a pretty common thing amongst athletes, these guys thrive off the crowd and energy they produce

Kassian hasn't thrived in years, crowd or no crowd. He bumped up his play when it was time to get paid then went back into ghost mode.

 

[LTIR]

Kassian hasn't thrived in years, crowd or no crowd. He bumped up his play when it was time to get paid then went back into ghost mode.

There is always the hope!

Don't crush it!

 

[SwedishFire]

Derek Roy is back? Exciting times

eh you know what I mean

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I have been a very vocal critic of Zack the last season or two and I am happily eating crow right now. He has been physical, hard on the puck and has chipped in very well offensively so far this season. Keep up the good work #44!

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Please send this waste of space somewhere far away.

 

[3IR]

Please send this waste of space somewhere far away.

Kassian has been the worst player who’s been regularly dressed this season imo.

He hasn’t brought anything of value, and this illusion of him bringing any kind of toughness is fading fast.

 

[MessierII]

Kassian has been the worst player who’s been regularly dressed this season imo.

He hasn’t brought anything of value, and this illusion of him bringing any kind of toughness is fading fast.

Kassian is half a point a game and has had some nice stretches. He’s been fine a little inconsistent maybe but overall he’s not close to our worst player.

 

[GOilers88]

Kassian is half a point a game and has had some nice stretches. He’s been fine a little inconsistent maybe but overall he’s not close to our worst player.

Anyone saying he's worse than Turris or Perlini is out to lunch.

 

[Oilhawks]

Zack should be on the 4th line and move up to the 3rd when hot. He’s still one of the better bottom 6 players. Yes, most of his points are when playing in the top 6 but the other guys probably wouldn’t be able to do that

 

[Czechboy]

3 more years! I agree it's nice to have a guy like Kass on the team. When everyone loved him in 2016 he was 5 years younger and made 1.5 million.

If he still made 1.5 million and was a UFA then I'd think he's great! Line 4, Line 3... the occasional good game. Move up to Top 6 every so often. Perfect.

 

[Oilhawks]

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3 more years! I agree it's nice to have a guy like Kass on the team. When everyone loved him in 2016 he was 5 years younger and made 1.5 million.

If he still made 1.5 million and was a UFA then I'd think he's great! Line 4, Line 3... the occasional good game. Move up to Top 6 every so often. Perfect.

I mean, technically it’s not 3 more seasons. It’s two more seasons after this. It’s all about perspective

And some copium in this case

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

How anyone can defend Kassian after last night is beyond me.

 

[MessierII]

How anyone can defend Kassian after last night is beyond me.

A few games ago Kassian had 3 points and was playing great. I’m sorry I’m not on your emotional roller coaster of game by game results.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

A few games ago Kassian had 3 points and was playing great. I’m sorry I’m not on your emotional roller coaster of game by game results.

So one good game erases years of floating?

 

[Czechboy]

I mean, technically it’s not 3 more seasons. It’s two more seasons after this. It’s all about perspective

And some copium in this case

Would you accept 2 and 3/4s? Lol

 

[Samus44]

So one good game erases years of floating?

He is who he is dude. A talented but dumb player who's inconsistent and often troubled in his own zone.

 

[BudBundy]

How anyone can defend Kassian after last night is beyond me.

I’m not happy with his recent play at all either, but he still has a place on my team. There are very few big guys that skate like him, have a bit of a screw loose, and enough skill that you can slide him up and down the lineup as the situation dictates. He’s never been particularly adept at the defensive part of the game and I think his recent injuries have gotten in his head a bit when it comes to the usual belligerence. A strongly feel we need at least a few guys like him, and without him we have none.

 

[Beerfish]

The player has been good for about 30 games when he as gifted mcdaivd linemate status.

Just an idiotic stupid contract given to him. Gms should learn that any time based on being on mcdavids like is 100% not indicative of players value.

 

[Stoneman89]

Zack should be on the 4th line and move up to the 3rd when hot. He’s still one of the better bottom 6 players. Yes, most of his points are when playing in the top 6 but the other guys probably wouldn’t be able to do that

I can agree with moving him to different lower lines for stretches. The coaching staff shouldn't get caught up in his salary status, and play him based on where he provides most benefit, wherever that is.

 

[Anarchism]

I can agree with moving him to different lower lines for stretches. The coaching staff shouldn't get caught up in his salary status, and play him based on where he provides most benefit, wherever that is.

Kassian thy name is not consistency.
Does that position sometimes include the popcorn eating area.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Zack should be on the 4th line and move up to the 3rd when hot. He’s still one of the better bottom 6 players. Yes, most of his points are when playing in the top 6 but the other guys probably wouldn’t be able to do that

Our 4th line could use a boost.
Benson-McLeod-Foegele
Shore-Sceviour-Kassian

 

[Tyrolean]

The player has been good for about 30 games when he as gifted mcdaivd linemate status.

Just an idiotic stupid contract given to him. Gms should learn that any time based on being on mcdavids like is 100% not indicative of players value.

Not overpaying Patrick Maroon was the right move, so the GM does make a correct move once in a while.

 

[Beerfish]

Not overpaying Patrick Maroon was the right move, so the GM does make a correct move once in a while.

So he instead brought chassion back and handed a gross 4 year deal to kassian. Maroon is currently being paid 800 k and then 1 mill next year.

Kassians deal is two years longer and what 3.2?

So yeah I'd rather have the mistake of maroon who is as good of a player.