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Yzerman End of Season pressconference

Ottawa made huge strides this season. Detroit has been spinning their wheels and stuck in the same spot for 3 years now.
C'mon, enough with the piling on. There's a sold core being built with Mo, Ray, Marco, Simon and almost certainly Axel this upcoming season. That sure as s**t isn't stuck for 3 years. The best players are playing that way. Mo played the toughest minutes in the league the previous season, Ray is an 80 point player, Marco was near the top in even strength scoring among rookies, Simon led all 21 and under d-men in even strength goals.

I expect this tired narrative on the main board, but Larkin enabling this false narrative is one of the main reasons I want him traded. Yzerman said we need to get harder, and that's not what Larkin was saying during his press conference. No, quite the contrary, he normalized whining.
 
The Toddfather has a clear plan going forward, i like what i heard from him. Challenging players and the coaching staff.

Stevie's part. Sounds like him and Larkin cleared air and now we wait and see how Larkin comes back from it. Good to hear that they are open for trades but kinda hard to see much happening when the cap is going up and teams are preparing for new season. And sounded like they are willing to dump a truck full of cash on Marner's yard, if he is available. No changes in player development or in scouting.
 
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The Toddfather has a clear plan going forward, i like what i heard from him. Challenging players and the coaching staff.

Stevie's part. Sounds like him and Larkin cleared air and now we wait and see how Larkin comes back from it. Good to hear that they are open for trades but kinda hard to see much happening when the cap is going up and teams are preparing for new season. And sounded like they are willing to dump a truck full cash on Marner's yard, if he is available. No changes in player development or in scouting.
If they don't trade Larkin and pull this move while performing that front... I'll officially feel like I was played.

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The Toddfather has a clear plan going forward, i like what i heard from him. Challenging players and the coaching staff.

Stevie's part. Sounds like him and Larkin cleared air and now we wait and see how Larkin comes back from it. Good to hear that they are open for trades but kinda hard to see much happening when the cap is going up and teams are preparing for new season. And sounded like they are willing to dump a truck full cash on Marner's yard, if he is available. No changes in player development or in scouting.
Having Todd there was huge. He addressed all of the things Yzerman likely wanted to get out there but didn't want to say himself. Well he did say the team looked great for the first two months under McLellan and everything that came out of his mouth regarding McLellan was unambiguously positive. I think he's very happy about the coaching situation which is huge given this team needs actual leadership.

Larkin is sooo f**king soft, I do hope he pushes for a trade. I have trouble seeing him as a leader. He may be great as a leader on US national teams, but I honestly don't give a s**t
 
It's always interesting, how in this case, "the family wants to go to Nashville", on a team without a single playmaker, and see his goal totals to dip from 40+ level to 27. And now he looks like an overpaid bust.

Steven Stamkos, as a hockeyplayer, if he is smart enough, should want to go teams with great playmakeks, like Detroit was with Raymond and Kane.

That was kind of the most stupid summer move to make from a player's side. Staying at Tampa (with superior Kucherov) after a low-ball offer would have been better too.

If money and family are more important that than the player himself, then, he is not a needed player.



That's just the friendly talk to keep our next season trade baits as positive.

But I agreed with Gustafsson, he was great after McLellan came in, and the defence weakened after his injury, because Holl jumped in from healthy scratch. Gustafsson was playing very well before that injury, that's the only time of the season, when our 3rd pair wasn't a weakness. He struggled bad under Lalonde.



Yeah, it's the term thing, because he likes to have Pellikka there. Long-term plan first, as always.



The group was good enough under McLellan... 96-point pace.

That's what we build for, after getting some better players.



I would say Pettersson is definitely more talented and skilled player than Larkin.

But what comes to LEADERSHIP issue, Pettersson definitely is not the the answer, and especially as a double negative affect, if traded for Larkin. We would lose leadership, and not get anything.



This is really funny how Red Wings are making tens of millions of profit, even if against the cap, and some idiots think Chris Ilitch is hindering some money. :D

If money matters (for Ilitches), you guys should look on baseball, but not on Red Wings.



Usually sadness or getting angry is relative to your expectations.

He expected more, and the team went a bit of south (from a last season 91-point team). But there are reasons (like Lalonde-struggles early, PK issues, Larks/Ray wear after 4Nations instead of normal All Star break), he didn't maybe understand early on that season-ending presser.

They should next time give players more time before those pressers, to think and get over the disappointment. Get more analytical approach.

Or, I hope the next time will never happen (and we are at the playoffs).



Robert Thomas was NHL-leading scorer after 4 Nations with 40 points, something to think about.

And anyways, it was their own boys who carried the team at the playoffs.

Thomas, Kyrou, Buchnevich, Neighbours, Bolduc, Schenn, Sundqvist, Toropchenko etc. are pretty much their own boys and draft picks who did it.

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I mean, I get your point. But it would've been the same for the Wings, led by Larkin, Raymond,Kasper, Edvinsson and Seider.

But you don't think that adding a top-4 D would've greatly helped the Wings core in making the playoffs?
 
Larkin is sooo f**king soft, I do hope he pushes for a trade. I have trouble seeing him as a leader. He may be great as a leader on US national teams, but I honestly don't give a s**t
And you're asking others to "stop piling on"? I mean how many times do you have to post this before everyone gets that this is your chosen narrative? We get that you feel this way.

Is he "soft" simply because he made a comment about the trade deadline?

I mean, I've seen Larkin play probably more than 200 times live. He isn't "soft". He's a lot of things, but he isn't soft. He lacks the hockey sense to be a truly great player and he whines to the refs and dives too often ... acts like he just scored the winning Stanley Cup goal in overtime of Game 7, even if it's just a November game against Columbus.

He does things that rub me the wrong way.

But, he is emotional, always has been, always will be. Obviously, he wasn't the only guy in that room who felt like the team could have used a boost at the deadline. It's not Dylan Larkin's job to build an unbeatable Dynasty ... that's up to Steve Yzerman. It's Dylan's job to win hockey games ... and he didn't accomplish that after the 4 Nations high. It happens.

I mean, in his whole career, you could never have pointed to Dylan as the reason the Wings just weren't good enough. This whole narrative of him being some kind of turncoat because he expressed an unpopular opinion is frankly sickening.

Yzerman is allowed to not appreciate Dylan's opinion. Frankly, I don't agree with Dylan's opinion. But, it doesn't make him "soft" because he expressed an opinion.

I think you'll see Dylan reverse back some of what he said here as the summer comes and goes.

He isn't going to be traded because he said what he said. That's ridiculous.
 
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Expressing the opinion doesn't make him soft. But the countless pouty face, looking down, talking so quietly it doesn't look like his mouth is moving "woe is me" pressers, do. It's gotten old at this point.
Yet oddly, until he expressed this particular opinion, he was never called soft on this board.
 
Yet oddly, until he expressed this particular opinion, he was never called soft on this board.
There isn't a single player on the roster that can or will put the team on their back for more than a few games here and there. The entire team lacks a heartbeat.

It's just convenient for some fans to pin 100 percent of that on Larkin, rather than accept the truth: some of the blame is definitely his, and some goes to Yzerman for assembling a roster filled with passengers.

In the unlikely event that Larkin gets traded, I'm sure of three things: it won't be an impressive return, the team will continue to have problems with mental toughness, and some fans will then find another player to scapegoat.

Maybe in a few years Seider or even Kasper might be "the guy", and the roster might have enough talent to start doing some damage. But for now it looks like 2025-26 will just be yet another placeholder season of waiting with no tangible accomplishments.
 
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I recall hearing Yzerman asked illitch if it was ok to go 4 years for stamkos and he never heard back from illitch so he signed with Nashville
That was some radio show that took things out of thin air.
The Illitch don't interfer. Also they don't need to sign off on signings.
The depth was replacement level on a good day. Losing Andrew f***ing Copp tanked the team. He's a 4th line shutdown guy on any of the wildcard teams in the playoffs now.
Let's not make things up. Copp could play middle six forward on several of the teams in the playoffs. Just because people don't like him since he is overpaid doesn't mean one can say ridiculous things.
Yzerman's opening comments were 100% directed at Larkin without using his name. McLellan's comments on the team being soft were 100% directed at Larkin without using his name.

So if you were expecting him to use Dylan Larkin's name I guess I can see your point, but it was pretty clear who most of these criticisms were directed at. His comment on morale was pretty clearly directed at Larkin and his pity party press conference.
Well it was directed at Larkin and the leadership group of the players. That they have to step up and not blame it on that someone else didn't arrive to potentially help them.
That was kind of the most stupid summer move to make from a player's side. Staying at Tampa (with superior Kucherov) after a low-ball offer would have been better too.

If money and family are more important that than the player himself, then, he is not a needed player.

Tampa offered $3.5M a year. Nashville $8M. No one in their right mind would take the lowball offer from Tampa and frankly its embarrassing that Tampa offered that to a franchise player.

When you have limited years of playing left, you don't accept an offer that is less than 45% of what you get elsewhere.

But, he is emotional, always has been, always will be. Obviously, he wasn't the only guy in that room who felt like the team could have used a boost at the deadline.
Then he needs to grow the f... up. I remember these idiot videos he and another player or something used to do back then. "D-Boss"...



I mean, I've seen Larkin play probably more than 200 times live. He isn't "soft". He's a lot of things, but he isn't soft. He lacks the hockey sense to be a truly great player and he whines to the refs and dives too often ... acts like he just scored the winning Stanley Cup goal in overtime of Game 7, even if it's just a November game against Columbus.

Then he is soft between the ears. He need to grow up and don't blame others every time.

Yzerman is allowed to not appreciate Dylan's opinion. Frankly, I don't agree with Dylan's opinion. But, it doesn't make him "soft" because he expressed an opinion.

What makes him soft is, he is diverting the responsibility to hypotheticals and what if's regarding that potential other players should have come in and made them better and given them a boosts. He should have done better and he should be part of the leadership group that is boosting the players up.
 
Yet oddly, until he expressed this particular opinion, he was never called soft on this board.
I commented on him swinging his Prada clutch when Alex DeBrincat took matters into his own hands and fought. And who can forget his "60 Minutes of Hell" t-shirt. If he decides to act like a b***h he deserves to get called on it. If he learns to STFU and show some actual leadership I'll be happy to eat my words and praise him.

Not holding my breath on that latter part though.
 
I commented on him swinging his Prada clutch when Alex DeBrincat took matters into his own hands and fought.
Exactly ... because all of the fighting that Steve Yzerman, Nicklas Lidstrom and Henrik Zetterberg did during their lengthy careers personified what the on-ice scrapping expectations of a Wings captains truly is.

Clearly, they were all soft too.

Larkin has fought plenty of times in his career. The wings don't need him fighting.
 
Ottawa has been trying to hit the go button for three-four seasons now by spending assets.

Imagine if Yzerman did that Chychrun deal.

They also traded a top 10 pick for for Debrincat trading him a year later for a mid 20s pick.

Having patience at this point of a rebuild is tough but essential.

For the record, I want to see yzerman add via trade but if a great move isn't out there this summer I'm going to be okay with continued patience.

Nothing wrong with keeping the powder dry until midseason/the trade deadline.
 
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Exactly ... because all of the fighting that Steve Yzerman, Nicklas Lidstrom and Henrik Zetterberg did during their lengthy careers personified what the on-ice scrapping expectations of a Wings captains truly is.

Clearly, they were all soft too.

Larkin has fought plenty of times in his career. The wings don't need him fighting.
Two of those three are in the Hockey Hall of Fame. Only way D-Boss is getting there is with an admission ticket.
 
They also traded a top 10 pick for for Debrincat trading him a year later for a mid 20s pick.

Having patience at this point of a rebuild is tough but essential.

For the record, I want to see yzerman add via trade but if a great move isn't out there this summer I'm going to be okay with continued patience.

Nothing wrong with keeping the powder dry until midseason/the trade deadline.
Agreed I'm not saying not to spend for anything. Just we haven't really gone for it yet despite swapping Bertuzzi's pick for Dcat. So people are comparing a team who has spent a top 10 pick among other things to get better while we have not.

Unless you think the ufa signings were that, but I don't think they were.
 
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They also traded a top 10 pick for for Debrincat trading him a year later for a mid 20s pick.

Having patience at this point of a rebuild is tough but essential.

For the record, I want to see yzerman add via trade but if a great move isn't out there this summer I'm going to be okay with continued patience.

Nothing wrong with keeping the powder dry until midseason/the trade deadline.
I agree and to piggyback on that thought, if you can't get a higher impact player or two this year, don't burn up cap space for mid players this offseason before the 2026 offseason, which could be a FA bonanza. Sure, it might be a pipe dream to get a McDavid, Eichel, Kaprizov type, they might extend before hand, but it would be nice to leave the options open since we have a lot of contracts that fall off the books after this upcoming season.
 
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He's a teenager in this video, what the hell are you talking about?

LOLLLLL

You're really upset at him for acting like a child when he was literally a child????

No, I'm saying he is acting like a child now. With deflecting and moaning behaviour of a kid.
Trying to put blame elsewhere instead of standing up and taking some responsibility.
 
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