Your thoughts on Berube & coaching staff

What impact do you think this coaching staff has had on the 2024/25 Leafs

  • Awesome. They have been in 1st place for a good part of the season.

    Votes: 9 7.8%
  • Just OK. Some good some bad

    Votes: 49 42.2%
  • No impact. The coaching staff has had zero impact on this team.

    Votes: 15 12.9%
  • Poor. They have done a poor job and relied too much on great goaltending

    Votes: 23 19.8%
  • Horrible job. Structurally this team has regressed, the team looks chaotic, lost, struggling.

    Votes: 4 3.4%
  • It is too early to judge the coaching staff.

    Votes: 16 13.8%

  • Total voters
    116
You know Berube didn't have a guy as good as Nylander or Matthews on his 2019 Blues team but he also had Parayko, Pietrangelo, Dunn, and JBo on defence and he made good use of them.

Defense wins championships, can't have half your cap allocated to four forwards, one of which is past his prime and another who's a regular season perimeter player.

Also despite that cap allocation to four forwards, Leafs can't dominate with one line like Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen could.
 
Give Keefe this goaltending and the team still looks about the same. Iffy to come out of the 1st round. This team needed a major core shakeup, along with the coaching change. So if Berube sitting at the podium after another 1st round exit this spring, what exactly did he accomplish that's different from Keefe? Does he have any answers?
 
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I'm beginning to worry about Berube and some of his post game comments. He thought that the Leafs put in a good effort against the Canucks? Was he watching the same game the rest of us watched? I understand if he said it was the end of a long road trip, the team was a little fatigued, but to say that the team played well is disingenuous to the fanbase. If it wasn't for Woll, the Leafs would have lost by 3 or 4 goals. I also don't like how he doesn't have accountability with his players. OEL boneheaded penalty at a key point in the third, sit his ass down for a few shifts.
 
I'm beginning to worry about Berube and some of his post game comments. He thought that the Leafs put in a good effort against the Canucks? Was he watching the same game the rest of us watched? I understand if he said it was the end of a long road trip, the team was a little fatigued, but to say that the team played well is disingenuous to the fanbase. If it wasn't for Woll, the Leafs would have lost by 3 or 4 goals. I also don't like how he doesn't have accountability with his players. OEL boneheaded penalty at a key point in the third, sit his ass down for a few shifts.
I'd imagine there's a big gap between what's said to the press and behind closed doors on a regular basis

Getting the media riled up doesnt do him any good
 
It's too early, but a great start when you consider all the injuries.

Toronto has been able to stay in 1 goal games, and hold a lead in the 3rd period better than other years.


You're not going to give Berube the 82 game benefit of the doubt?

I would say this is mostly due to goaltending though. Still though, can’t complain with his coaching. The results speak for themselves at the end of the day, and if we win the Cup or even reach the finals this year then we can safely say we likely have a better coach.
 
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I'm beginning to worry about Berube and some of his post game comments. He thought that the Leafs put in a good effort against the Canucks? Was he watching the same game the rest of us watched? I understand if he said it was the end of a long road trip, the team was a little fatigued, but to say that the team played well is disingenuous to the fanbase. If it wasn't for Woll, the Leafs would have lost by 3 or 4 goals. I also don't like how he doesn't have accountability with his players. OEL boneheaded penalty at a key point in the third, sit his ass down for a few shifts.
I generally believe about 0% of what coaches in any sport say to the media.
 
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I'd imagine there's a big gap between what's said to the press and behind closed doors on a regular basis

Getting the media riled up doesnt do him any good
I wouldn’t want him to throw any specific players under the bus, but an acknowledgment that they didn’t play a good game would be reasonable. I don’t believe that would rile the media. If he said Matthews and Marner were lazy for parts of that game then I agree that the media would jump on that. Best coaches are honest in their assessments. Best coaches also hold players accountable. Didn’t Cooper healthy scratch Kucherov for a game? I can think of several players who could use a seat in the press box, eg Domi
 
I wouldn't say I'm disappointed in Berube.

But I'm not impressed either. The differences between him and Keefe are way overrated. The hype surrounding his hiring blown out of proportion.

I've seen very little that distinguishes him from his predecessor.

Neither one of them have a backbone. A couple spineless yes men kissing the players butts. Doing everything they can to appease the stars.

Even if it's to the detriment of the team.

Sixty goal scoring centremen don't grow on trees around the arena. Coaches are a dime a dozen. A smart coach who knows his job isn't dependant on winning won't risk upsetting the children's feelings.

It's easier to replace the coach than a team of players.
 
I wouldn't say I'm disappointed in Berube.

But I'm not impressed either. The differences between him and Keefe are way overrated. The hype surrounding his hiring blown out of proportion.

I've seen very little that distinguishes him from his predecessor.

Neither one of them have a backbone. A couple spineless yes men kissing the players butts. Doing everything they can to appease the stars.

Even if it's to the detriment of the team.

Sixty goal scoring centremen don't grow on trees around the arena. Coaches are a dime a dozen. A smart coach who knows his job isn't dependant on winning won't risk upsetting the children's feelings.

It's easier to replace the coach than a team of players.
If what you say is true, no coach can win here with these 3 losers. Can the same be said for winners like MacKinnon, McDavid, Crosby, Petro, Kopitar, M Tkachuk, Barkov etc.?
 
I wouldn't say I'm disappointed in Berube.

But I'm not impressed either. The differences between him and Keefe are way overrated. The hype surrounding his hiring blown out of proportion.

I've seen very little that distinguishes him from his predecessor.

Neither one of them have a backbone. A couple spineless yes men kissing the players butts. Doing everything they can to appease the stars.

Even if it's to the detriment of the team.

Sixty goal scoring centremen don't grow on trees around the arena. Coaches are a dime a dozen. A smart coach who knows his job isn't dependant on winning won't risk upsetting the children's feelings.

It's easier to replace the coach than a team of players.
Agreed, there were folks who were really all in on Keefe being the "root of the problem" and how Berube was going to come in and transform everything.

There's a culture problem on the team that can't be fixed with coaching alone.
 
If what you say is true, no coach can win here with these 3 losers. Can the same be said for winners like MacKinnon, McDavid, Crosby, Petro, Kopitar, M Tkachuk, Barkov etc.?

I don't think it matters who the next-guy-to-get-fired is behind bench.

These coach killers will eventually have their way with whoever is back there. ML$E needs to be careful about what kinds of precedents they're setting. They've already chewed up and spit out two coaches from polar opposite ends of the spectrum.

These players who admit they are treated like gods know they don't have anything to fear from whatever buttkisser Shanahan hires to chew gum and wave pom poms.

Agreed, there were folks who were really all in on Keefe being the "root of the problem" and how Berube was going to come in and transform everything.

There's a culture problem on the team that can't be fixed with coaching alone.

With large salaries come large egos.

These players are treated like gods. They are paid enormous sums of money to play a game for a living. They know they are the most important assets to this team.

Coach, GM, and President don't have jobs without their sixty goal scoring franchise centreman and his 100 point sidekick buddy and they know it.
 

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