Your thoughts on Berube & coaching staff

[Leafshater67]

It's not just on Dubas anymore.

Tre had a chance to rectify the situation and chose to double down.

Marner could have been moved. Nylander didn't need to be paid 11.5. Apparantly they asked around and didn't like the return which should have been a red flag about the contract ask.

Matthews was just resigned as the higheat paid under Tre. For 4 years at that.

That is all under Tre and Shanny

Yup and the leafs could never accept that less is more so getting an actual return for Marner is better than letting him walk. They don’t have the guts to do what needs to be done because it’s Toronto. The media will absolutely torch them and it’s so high pressure.

You and I both know Marner will get a 13m deal with a full NMC and they’ll continue to fail. It’s pitiful to watch. They could have a solid top 4 dman and a 2C for close to the money of one winger a d Knies is as good as gone likely

 

[Madap]

Too early.

So far the team really hasn’t been any better than prior years. We’ve just had better goaltending. However we haven’t been able to translate the success to the playoffs before so we’ll see if this year we can.

 

[Nineteen67]

Great goaltending makes a great coach.

They were entertaining early in the season but they’re playing now like they’re ready to call it a year and get into the off season.

Yup and the leafs could never accept that less is more so getting an actual return for Marner is better than letting him walk. They don’t have the guts to do what needs to be done because it’s Toronto. The media will absolutely torch them and it’s so high pressure.

You and I both know Marner will get a 13m deal with a full NMC and they’ll continue to fail. It’s pitiful to watch. They could have a solid top 4 dman and a 2C for close to the money of one winger a d Knies is as good as gone likely

The media hasn’t torched them in 60 yrs.

 

[notDatsyuk]

It's not just on Dubas anymore.

Tre had a chance to rectify the situation and chose to double down.

Marner could have been moved. Nylander didn't need to be paid 11.5. Apparantly they asked around and didn't like the return which should have been a red flag about the contract ask.

Matthews was just resigned as the higheat paid under Tre. For 4 years at that.

That is all under Tre and Shanny

Even assuming there was no edict from Shanahan, Tre had a month at best to assess the situation and negotiate a good trade for Marner.

He signed the two most important players. Yes, he overpaid somewhat, but that was almost inevitable considering the bigger overpayments of his predecessor.

Hey, guys! A lot of this thread has veered from discussing/evaluating the coaches to discussing/evaluating the GM.

Let's try to stay on topic.

 

[IPS]

If the premise of Berube was that he would come in here and bend the team to his will and reshape its soul and character, it feels the reverse has happened and more and more like he's acclimatized to the Maple Leaf way. That feel good, non offensive, nurturing low friction, inconsistent compete vibe, minimal self critique continues. Sure they can play the perfect Berube game once in a while, but the standards aren't really different than before.

The impact of dump and chase seems overstated in the way it has short circuited the team's skill and offense and production. Feels like it has exposed a lack of conditioning among many players.

Generally it feels like Ovechkin may have been right. Same team, new coach.

Look at the last 2 months, Berube's system has been overruled by how the team prefers to play. It's not been Berube hockey the last 2 months, not even close. It's more and more evidence that it's really the core who decides how things go. Call out or upset Matthews and your ass is getting kicked out the door.

 

[Fogelhund]

Every year, people post that they are only really concerned with success in the playoffs.

Every year, people melt down when we lose a few games in the regular season, that allegedly don't matter much.

All that matters is playoff results... and I can't really judge that yet, can I? It bothers me some that they don't put a full effort in at times. But, if he can get them to play in the playoffs... that's fine by me. I wasn't looking forward to a President's trophy, give me some playoff success.