SannywithoutCompy
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your team's top 10 prospects
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A guy who was always expected to do more in attacking skills and a stable place in the top 4
qc14
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Pre-WJC I'd go:
#1 Ryan Leonard* - W - BC Eagles
#2 Ivan Miroshnichenko - W - Hershey Bears/Washington Capitals
#3 Andrew Cristall - W - Kelowna Rockets (and Team Canada snub)
#4 Terik Parascak - W - PG Cougars
#5 Vincent Iorio - D - Hershey Bears
#6 Cole Hutson* - D - BU Terriers
#7 Ilya Protas - W/C - Windsor Spitfires
#8 Leon Muggli* - D - EV Zug
#9 Ryan Chesley - D - Minnesota Gophers
#10 Henrik Rybynski - W/C- Hershey Bears
HM: Eriks Mateiko* - W/C - Saint John Sea Dogs, Cam Allen - D - London Knights, Bogdan Trineyev - W - Hershey Bears
Starred players will be at the WJC. Definition of prospect is kind of "I know it when I see it" but in general I think for skaters you have to be 23 or younger and have less than 82 games of NHL experience. Hendrix Lapierre is left off my list for that reason but if he was on here I'd slot him in at #4 ahead of Parascak.
Some guys that might be on other Caps fans' lists but I don't really see an NHL future for: Alexander Suzdalev - W - SC Stingrays, Zac Funk - W - Hershey Bears, Pierrick Dube - W - Hershey Bears, Clay Stevenson - G - Hershey Bears.
Biggest risers this year:
Cristall, Protas, Parascak
Biggest fallers:
Suzdalev, Stevenson, Chesley, Lapierre
A surprisingly deep pool, Caps have done a great job in the second and third rounds recently and while none of their first rounders have been home-run successes there really aren't any misses there since Lucas Johansen in 2015. The Caps scouts really love the WHL, hate Finland, and I think more than any other team in the league don't care at all about skating as it's something they think is fixable. The group has a nice mix of potential scorers and grinders up front, and the lack of center depth is softened by having Strome, PLD, McMichael, and Lapierre all in the NHL aged 27 and younger. The big missing link is the lack of a defenseman projected to be a true 1st pair, PP1 type guy although if Hutson takes off in the way his brother did there may be a chance for that. There's also a lack of a "goalie of the future" but I think that's more a change in organizational philosophy than anything else and somewhat overrated by most prospect pool rankers.
#1 Ryan Leonard* - W - BC Eagles
#2 Ivan Miroshnichenko - W - Hershey Bears/Washington Capitals
#3 Andrew Cristall - W - Kelowna Rockets (and Team Canada snub)
#4 Terik Parascak - W - PG Cougars
#5 Vincent Iorio - D - Hershey Bears
#6 Cole Hutson* - D - BU Terriers
#7 Ilya Protas - W/C - Windsor Spitfires
#8 Leon Muggli* - D - EV Zug
#9 Ryan Chesley - D - Minnesota Gophers
#10 Henrik Rybynski - W/C- Hershey Bears
HM: Eriks Mateiko* - W/C - Saint John Sea Dogs, Cam Allen - D - London Knights, Bogdan Trineyev - W - Hershey Bears
Starred players will be at the WJC. Definition of prospect is kind of "I know it when I see it" but in general I think for skaters you have to be 23 or younger and have less than 82 games of NHL experience. Hendrix Lapierre is left off my list for that reason but if he was on here I'd slot him in at #4 ahead of Parascak.
Some guys that might be on other Caps fans' lists but I don't really see an NHL future for: Alexander Suzdalev - W - SC Stingrays, Zac Funk - W - Hershey Bears, Pierrick Dube - W - Hershey Bears, Clay Stevenson - G - Hershey Bears.
Biggest risers this year:
Cristall, Protas, Parascak
Biggest fallers:
Suzdalev, Stevenson, Chesley, Lapierre
A surprisingly deep pool, Caps have done a great job in the second and third rounds recently and while none of their first rounders have been home-run successes there really aren't any misses there since Lucas Johansen in 2015. The Caps scouts really love the WHL, hate Finland, and I think more than any other team in the league don't care at all about skating as it's something they think is fixable. The group has a nice mix of potential scorers and grinders up front, and the lack of center depth is softened by having Strome, PLD, McMichael, and Lapierre all in the NHL aged 27 and younger. The big missing link is the lack of a defenseman projected to be a true 1st pair, PP1 type guy although if Hutson takes off in the way his brother did there may be a chance for that. There's also a lack of a "goalie of the future" but I think that's more a change in organizational philosophy than anything else and somewhat overrated by most prospect pool rankers.
TatteredTornNFrayed
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During the summer, the HF-Avs poll top 10 was:
1. Cal Ritchie (C)
2. Mikhail Gulyayev (D)
3. Sean Behrens (D)
4. Ilya Nabokov (G)
5. J.L. Foudy (F)
6. Oscar Olausson (W)
7. Ivan Ivan (F)
8. William Zellers (W)
9. Max Curran (F)
10. Tory Pitner (D)
Kovalenko would have easily made the top-5, but was deemed ineligible for the vote due to age. (I think Malinski was considered graduated to a regular already.) At the time of the voting, I personally was little higher on Christian Humphreys and Max Curran, and lower on Olausson, Foudy, and Zellers.
As of today, my own list would probably look something like
1. Ritchie
2. Gulyayev
3. Nabokov
4. Ivan
5. Behrens
6. Prischepov
7. Jedlicka
8. Foudy
9. Curran
10.+ ?
1. Cal Ritchie (C)
2. Mikhail Gulyayev (D)
3. Sean Behrens (D)
4. Ilya Nabokov (G)
5. J.L. Foudy (F)
6. Oscar Olausson (W)
7. Ivan Ivan (F)
8. William Zellers (W)
9. Max Curran (F)
10. Tory Pitner (D)
Kovalenko would have easily made the top-5, but was deemed ineligible for the vote due to age. (I think Malinski was considered graduated to a regular already.) At the time of the voting, I personally was little higher on Christian Humphreys and Max Curran, and lower on Olausson, Foudy, and Zellers.
As of today, my own list would probably look something like
1. Ritchie
2. Gulyayev
3. Nabokov
4. Ivan
5. Behrens
6. Prischepov
7. Jedlicka
8. Foudy
9. Curran
10.+ ?
Just Linda
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I haven't been paying attention to the Caps pool lately, it got sneakily good.
I'm surprise to see Miro on the 4th line this year with the caps. I didn't watch a game yet though. How is he doing ?
neelynugs
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luckily your roster should compete for a cup for a long time
qc14
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Its really the third line with how they're used. I think he's been great there, it looks like he really has worked on improving his awareness and seems to "get" how the defensive system works. He's very good on the walls too. Offensive instincts have been good but he's still used to the AHL pace of play offensively IMO. There's too much depth at forward when everyone's healthy for him to be a regular this year but I expect him to have a full-time spot next season.
- Sennecke
- Luneau
- Solberg
- Clara
- Tarin Smith
- Colangelo
- Helleson
- Masse
- Pettersson
- Sidorov
Gauthier
Zellweger
After the top 4 it is pretty wide open. I see 5-7 also in their own tier, but I wouldnt argue with someone who disagrees. Probably another 10 guys I could have put from 8-10.
I think Tarin Smith is the next prototypical Ducks defensemen prospect that comes out of nowhere to be a stud.
Helleson has somehow been VASTLY better in the NHL then the AHL both statistically and the eye test. If I made this list at the start of the season he likely wouldnt even be in my top 15, but his play over 15 NHL games this season has to be recognized. Should be a solid #4/5 guy for the Ducks.
Volica
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Flames are for sure a little lighter than the offseason, where Wolf, and Coronato have clearly graduated, and it looks like Pelletier has fully as well.
For those that haven't kept up with what's happening in Calgary:
Dustin Wolf is 12-5-2, .914 and 2.61; and essentially unbeatable at home.
Matthew Coronato is probably going to score 20-25 goals this year.
Jakob Pelletier has gelled into a top 9 role where he's scoring at a .5ppg pace, is a little energy plug and solid on both ends of the ice and has found a lot of chemistry with his long-time AHL pal, Connor Zary.
Graduating Zary, Wolf, Coronato, Pelletier and Pospisil in the last year and a half tells me this team is still really good at this player development thing (something Calgary rarely gets any credit for).
Of the remaining players:
1. Zayne Parekh is the clear number 1 guy now. Massive fumble by Hockey Canada not including him on the WJC squad.
2. I'd probably say Hunter Brzustewicz is number 2. Him learning the pro game has been fun to watch. Started the year really, really slowly, he had 2 points in his first 17 games. With injuries to the Wranglers veterans and Spengler cup duties he's certainly been elevated. In his last 14 games, he has 10 points and has been a huge part of the Wrangler's success in the AHL. I still find it weird Vancouver included him in the Lindholm trade, this guy's a legit prospect.
3. Sam Honzek. This guy was unbelievable in the preseason, and made the club out of camp... couldn't get it rolling, injured and then sent to the AHL. Started slow there after injury, 4 points in his first 10 games; after that he's been great, he's been moved to centre, has 9 in his last 12 and is developing as we sort of hoped when we drafted the Slovak project.
After this, there's a bit of a grouping I'd say, rather than a clear cut next man up.
4. Matvei Gridin
5. Jacob Battaglia
6. Andrew Basha
7. Henry Mews
8. William Stromgren
9. Rory Kerins
10. Luke Misa
The thing with Calgary, is you also have this group of 3-4 non-sexy-but-good defensive prospects.
Axel Hurtig, Yan Kuznetsov, Ilya Solovyov, Artem Grushnikov
Also a couple offensive guys:
Etienne Morin and Jeremie Poirier
Poirier is probably the biggest dropper in our pool so far this year.
For those that haven't kept up with what's happening in Calgary:
Dustin Wolf is 12-5-2, .914 and 2.61; and essentially unbeatable at home.
Matthew Coronato is probably going to score 20-25 goals this year.
Jakob Pelletier has gelled into a top 9 role where he's scoring at a .5ppg pace, is a little energy plug and solid on both ends of the ice and has found a lot of chemistry with his long-time AHL pal, Connor Zary.
Graduating Zary, Wolf, Coronato, Pelletier and Pospisil in the last year and a half tells me this team is still really good at this player development thing (something Calgary rarely gets any credit for).
Of the remaining players:
1. Zayne Parekh is the clear number 1 guy now. Massive fumble by Hockey Canada not including him on the WJC squad.
2. I'd probably say Hunter Brzustewicz is number 2. Him learning the pro game has been fun to watch. Started the year really, really slowly, he had 2 points in his first 17 games. With injuries to the Wranglers veterans and Spengler cup duties he's certainly been elevated. In his last 14 games, he has 10 points and has been a huge part of the Wrangler's success in the AHL. I still find it weird Vancouver included him in the Lindholm trade, this guy's a legit prospect.
3. Sam Honzek. This guy was unbelievable in the preseason, and made the club out of camp... couldn't get it rolling, injured and then sent to the AHL. Started slow there after injury, 4 points in his first 10 games; after that he's been great, he's been moved to centre, has 9 in his last 12 and is developing as we sort of hoped when we drafted the Slovak project.
After this, there's a bit of a grouping I'd say, rather than a clear cut next man up.
4. Matvei Gridin
5. Jacob Battaglia
6. Andrew Basha
7. Henry Mews
8. William Stromgren
9. Rory Kerins
10. Luke Misa
The thing with Calgary, is you also have this group of 3-4 non-sexy-but-good defensive prospects.
Axel Hurtig, Yan Kuznetsov, Ilya Solovyov, Artem Grushnikov
Also a couple offensive guys:
Etienne Morin and Jeremie Poirier
Poirier is probably the biggest dropper in our pool so far this year.
No mention of Dionicio?
Graduated:
- Sennecke
- Luneau
- Solberg
- Clara
- Tarin Smith
- Colangelo
- Helleson
- Masse
- Pettersson
- Sidorov
Gauthier
Zellweger
After the top 4 it is pretty wide open. I see 5-7 also in their own tier, but I wouldnt argue with someone who disagrees. Probably another 10 guys I could have put from 8-10.
I think Tarin Smith is the next prototypical Ducks defensemen prospect that comes out of nowhere to be a stud.
Helleson has somehow been VASTLY better in the NHL then the AHL both statistically and the eye test. If I made this list at the start of the season he likely wouldnt even be in my top 15, but his play over 15 NHL games this season has to be recognized. Should be a solid #4/5 guy for the Ducks.
I include him in that huge group that could easily be from 8-10.
Masse
Pettersson
Sidorov
Dionicio
Burnevik
Procyszyn
Moore
Warren
Hinds
Gaucher
All of them have some warts that can cast doubt, but all have potential to be good NHLers I think.
I picked the top 3 because I think they have the best chance of being top 6/4 players in the NHL.
PocketNines
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Blues, considering Bolduc graduated
(he graduates by the classic HF definition in 2 weeks on 1/16 with his 65th game)
1) Dalibor Dvorsky C - scoring center
2) Theo Lindstein LD - Petro-lite
3) Otto Stenberg LW - 1st line LW, Alex Steen clone
4) Jimmy Snuggerud RW - sniper who'll join NHL after UMinn season ends
5) Jakub Stancl C - taking a large step this year looks like Brock Nelson
6) Adam Jiricek RD - discouraging last 12 months but talent alone
7) Lukas Fischer LD - Jiri Fischer's large mean child
8) Colin Ralph LD - compared to late blooming lefty Parayko
9) Aleksanteri Kaskimaki C - D+3 on a production heater & opening eyes in the AHL right now
10) Juraj Pekarcik / Adam Jecho / Ondrej Kos / Quinton Burns take your pick
[bunch of decent possibilities out to about 20]
top three guys are real, real good and then a bunch of varied and potential contribution after that
Broberg and Lindstein on the left side is v v nice to think about as is Thomas-Dvorsky
(he graduates by the classic HF definition in 2 weeks on 1/16 with his 65th game)
1) Dalibor Dvorsky C - scoring center
2) Theo Lindstein LD - Petro-lite
3) Otto Stenberg LW - 1st line LW, Alex Steen clone
4) Jimmy Snuggerud RW - sniper who'll join NHL after UMinn season ends
5) Jakub Stancl C - taking a large step this year looks like Brock Nelson
6) Adam Jiricek RD - discouraging last 12 months but talent alone
7) Lukas Fischer LD - Jiri Fischer's large mean child
8) Colin Ralph LD - compared to late blooming lefty Parayko
9) Aleksanteri Kaskimaki C - D+3 on a production heater & opening eyes in the AHL right now
10) Juraj Pekarcik / Adam Jecho / Ondrej Kos / Quinton Burns take your pick
[bunch of decent possibilities out to about 20]
top three guys are real, real good and then a bunch of varied and potential contribution after that
Broberg and Lindstein on the left side is v v nice to think about as is Thomas-Dvorsky
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Where is Pastujov?
Graduated:
- Sennecke
- Luneau
- Solberg
- Clara
- Tarin Smith
- Colangelo
- Helleson
- Masse
- Pettersson
- Sidorov
Gauthier
Zellweger
After the top 4 it is pretty wide open. I see 5-7 also in their own tier, but I wouldnt argue with someone who disagrees. Probably another 10 guys I could have put from 8-10.
I think Tarin Smith is the next prototypical Ducks defensemen prospect that comes out of nowhere to be a stud.
Helleson has somehow been VASTLY better in the NHL then the AHL both statistically and the eye test. If I made this list at the start of the season he likely wouldnt even be in my top 15, but his play over 15 NHL games this season has to be recognized. Should be a solid #4/5 guy for the Ducks.
I dont think he will be an NHLer.
His skating isn't good enough to succeed at that level as a top 6 guy, and he isnt suited for a bottom 6 role.
Fistfullofbeer
Moderator
After Catton, I am not sure how the ranking would be. But this is likely our top 10.
Catton
Firkus
Rehkopf
Sale
Molgaard
Nyman
Winterton
Price
Nelson
Jugnauth
Catton
Firkus
Rehkopf
Sale
Molgaard
Nyman
Winterton
Price
Nelson
Jugnauth
goosecrosby
Registered User
Has Goyette fallen that far off because of his slow AHL start? Seems like he was borderline top 5 last offseason.
It's insane how much young talent you guys have with boldy, Rossi, kaprizov and Faber in the mix now you have other guys like buium and jiricek who project to be top dmen with a potential showstopper goalie along with ohgren and yurov who project to be top six wingers as well managed to rebuild the right way while staying competive and hitting on a couple of their high 1sts with kap surprising and turning into a top 5 forward
1. Buium
2. Yurov
3. Wallstedt
4. Jiricek
5. Ohgren
6. Heidt
Losing interest after that.
Fistfullofbeer
Moderator
I would say so, yes. I had actually expected him to outplay Firkus and Sale both this season. I have only watched a few CV games this season and he has not been noticeable. Maybe he can figure it out. Maybe I would put him in ahead of Price or Jugnauth but he has had a pretty awful season so far.
Dr Jan Itor
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Cautiously optimistic.
Could've said similar things in 2013 with Granlund, Coyle, Niederreiter, Brodin, Dumba, Zucker, Kuemper and Haula all in the org. Not a Kaprizov in the mix, but he's also not very "young" anymore.
For me I might also have Goyette just outside the top 10, but I feel compelled to say that that is largely because the Kraken pool is super deep. He's super skilled and he's 20. He might pop later, perhaps after Coachella Valley thins out, and still have a fine NHL career.
Took a pill in Sbisa
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