Your teams dream team since the 2012-2013 lockout
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Seriously what are you drinking?
Exactly what is the criteria here as you have guys that played with Lidstrom and Detroit has some other well known players?
Eye of Ra
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Yes and Datsyuk and Zetterberg started their NHL careers well before then right?
Okay you know what, I completely missed the title thread, just didn't see it.
Eye of Ra
Grandmaster General of the International boards
Dream team since the lock out season 2012-2013, thats the criteria. Why is that so hard to understand? Which players did i miss?
wintersej
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Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Lucic Krejci Horton
Eriksson Lindholm Seguin
Hall Zacha DeBrusk
Chara McAvoy
Lindholm Hamilton
Seidenberg Boychuk
Rask
Ullmark
Some hard cuts on the D side of things. Like I can’t believe Krug or Carlo didn’t make the roster.
Edit: Lindholm probably doesn’t really deserve the spot over Coyle, more of a projection.
Lucic Krejci Horton
Eriksson Lindholm Seguin
Hall Zacha DeBrusk
Chara McAvoy
Lindholm Hamilton
Seidenberg Boychuk
Rask
Ullmark
Some hard cuts on the D side of things. Like I can’t believe Krug or Carlo didn’t make the roster.
Edit: Lindholm probably doesn’t really deserve the spot over Coyle, more of a projection.
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Read my last post, I didn't see the title at all until I typed the last sentence.
Also I don't even have to look as Detroit has been really crappy since then.
I mean Franzen played a 130 games and he is a second line winger, that's bad.
Eye of Ra
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Elias Lindholm or Pär Lindholm?
Okay i got it. Yeah the wings have been in dark ages for a long time now.
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For the Sens:
Tkachuk-Stutzle-Alfredsson
Giroux-Spezza-Stone
Debrincat-Zibanejad-Batherson
Norris-Turris-Ryan
Sanderson-Karlsson
Chabot-Zub
Methot-Chychrun
Ullmark
Anderson
Tkachuk-Stutzle-Alfredsson
Giroux-Spezza-Stone
Debrincat-Zibanejad-Batherson
Norris-Turris-Ryan
Sanderson-Karlsson
Chabot-Zub
Methot-Chychrun
Ullmark
Anderson
I'll do one for Vancouver off the top of my head and maybe putting a center or 2 on the wing in a team building exercise and pretending that Petey and JT can live with each other.
EP40-Miller-Boeser
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Hansen-Horvat-Toffoli
Garland-Blueger-Joshua
Hronek-Hughes
Tanev-Elder
Hamius-Bieksa
Demko
Markstrom
EP40-Miller-Boeser
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Hansen-Horvat-Toffoli
Garland-Blueger-Joshua
Hronek-Hughes
Tanev-Elder
Hamius-Bieksa
Demko
Markstrom
Schennanigans
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Forget the criteria. This is the team.
Marner Sundin Mogilny
Clark Mathew’s Gilmour
Kessel Kadri Nylander
Kulemin Domi Tavares
Kaberle Schenn
Salming rielly.
Iafrate McCabe
Belfour
Cujo
Potvin
Marner Sundin Mogilny
Clark Mathew’s Gilmour
Kessel Kadri Nylander
Kulemin Domi Tavares
Kaberle Schenn
Salming rielly.
Iafrate McCabe
Belfour
Cujo
Potvin
JaegerDice
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Based on your Red Wings roster, I'm assuming these are players at their peak, even if they didn't play for the team in question at their peak?
If that's the case, my Blackhawks roster would be:
Sharp - Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Strome - Kane
Debrincat - Teravainen - Bedard
Saad - Danault - Kruger
Keith - Seabrook
Campbell - Hjalmarrson
Oduya - Vlasic
Crawford
Khabibulin
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Peen
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I always interpret these questions as a specific season (or two).
Daniel (12-13) - Henrik (12-13) - Burrows (12-13)
Miller (23-24) - EP (22-23) - Boeser (20-21)
Horvat (22-23) - Kesler (12-13) - Garland (24-25)
Joshua (23-24) - Blueger (24-25) - Sherwood (24-25)
HM: 22-23 Kuzmenko, 17-18 Dorsett, 18-19 Roussel pre-injury, 14-15 Brad Richardson, 13-14 Santorelli, 24-25 DeBrusk, 21-22 Motte, 19-20 Toffoli, 12-13 Hansen, 23-24 Lindholm
Hughes (24-25) - Hronek (23-24)
Edler - Tanev (both ~2017)
Hamhuis (13-14) - Bieksa (12-13)
No HMs - no one else sniffs these guys. it's such an obvious D.
Schneider (12-13)
Demko (23-24)
HM: Markstrom (19-20), Miller (one of the seasons).
HM list is much longer for forwards because I think there's arguments to be made about pulling different guys out and putting different guys in. Lindholm over Blueger is a big one, but I don't know, I genuinely think Blueger played better last year. I wanted to ensure there were enough righties. You could maybe make the argument that it would be smart to add one more PKer in there at the expense of Garland in the top nine. I don't think Garland fits with either of the top six lines, and maybe Hansen would be a more versatile option. Just thought his playmaking would be good for that line and that I valued that more than having another PKer.
Dorsett, Roussel as pest options who were genuinely good in those seasons listed. Maybe you roll 11 forwards and have Kuzmenko as a late game + PP option.. he scored 40 goals so not having him as an HM seemed unjust, even though there's no world where I can fit him in unless it's running 11 forwards.
Toffoli was good for us in a small sample, but the team needs speed and there's better scorers available. Richardson was good for us, but Blueger's been good on a good team -- not a fault of Richardson, but just easier to gauge. Motte played at a 3rd line level and got 3rd line results out of a line with Lammikko and Highmore on a really bad team while providing speed and energy. Santorelli was fun during a really not-fun year. Taking the youngest version of Hansen. DeBrusk small sample but is a decent two way guy who can pot some goals.
PK units Kesler - Burrows, Blueger - Sherwood.
PP units would be nuts with the old 17/14/33/22 + Hronek, and then JT, Bo, Brock, EP, and Hughes.
I think the special teams considerations were big for me. Mix of righties, lefties, guys who are actually good at the roles they're in. Faceoffs.
At evens, there's two lines I'd put in more favourable positions and two lines I'd lean towards throwing into the more defensive roles. But the top three lines all capable of dominating in the offensive zone for sustained periods and putting up points at evens.
HM list on defense.. none of the guys I thought of sniff the lineup so there isn't one. Everyone else in the lineup is way better.
HM for goalies... Markstrom was good for us, and Ryan Miller played well for us as well.
Dorsett, Roussel as pest options who were genuinely good in those seasons listed. Maybe you roll 11 forwards and have Kuzmenko as a late game + PP option.. he scored 40 goals so not having him as an HM seemed unjust, even though there's no world where I can fit him in unless it's running 11 forwards.
Toffoli was good for us in a small sample, but the team needs speed and there's better scorers available. Richardson was good for us, but Blueger's been good on a good team -- not a fault of Richardson, but just easier to gauge. Motte played at a 3rd line level and got 3rd line results out of a line with Lammikko and Highmore on a really bad team while providing speed and energy. Santorelli was fun during a really not-fun year. Taking the youngest version of Hansen. DeBrusk small sample but is a decent two way guy who can pot some goals.
PK units Kesler - Burrows, Blueger - Sherwood.
PP units would be nuts with the old 17/14/33/22 + Hronek, and then JT, Bo, Brock, EP, and Hughes.
I think the special teams considerations were big for me. Mix of righties, lefties, guys who are actually good at the roles they're in. Faceoffs.
At evens, there's two lines I'd put in more favourable positions and two lines I'd lean towards throwing into the more defensive roles. But the top three lines all capable of dominating in the offensive zone for sustained periods and putting up points at evens.
HM list on defense.. none of the guys I thought of sniff the lineup so there isn't one. Everyone else in the lineup is way better.
HM for goalies... Markstrom was good for us, and Ryan Miller played well for us as well.
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If we're taking players at their peak with the team
Connor Scheifele Laine
Ehlers Little Wheeler
Ladd Stastny E Kane
M Perreault Lowry Frolik
Byfuglien Morrisey
Trouba Enstrom
Chiarot Pionk
Hellebuyck
Brossoit
Probably some recency bias I. There somewhere and I'm going off the top of my head... so I might have missed something.
Connor Scheifele Laine
Ehlers Little Wheeler
Ladd Stastny E Kane
M Perreault Lowry Frolik
Byfuglien Morrisey
Trouba Enstrom
Chiarot Pionk
Hellebuyck
Brossoit
Probably some recency bias I. There somewhere and I'm going off the top of my head... so I might have missed something.
Without doing the work, sharks would have a lot of fun with Celebrini playing with Thornton, Pavelski, Burns, Karlsson, Hertl, Pavs and Meier.
Sergei Shirokov
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Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Daniel - Henrik - Vrbata (14-15)
Horvat - Kesler - Garland
Pearson - Lindholm - Toffoli
EX; Debrusk/Sherwood
Hughes - Hronek
Edler - Tanev
Hamhuis - Bieksa (12-14)
EX; Myers
Demko
Markstrom
Daniel - Henrik - Vrbata (14-15)
Horvat - Kesler - Garland
Pearson - Lindholm - Toffoli
EX; Debrusk/Sherwood
Hughes - Hronek
Edler - Tanev
Hamhuis - Bieksa (12-14)
EX; Myers
Demko
Markstrom
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Literally just put Panarin, Fox, and Yandle on the 2014 team.
Panarin-Brassard-Zuccarello
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Hagelin-Richards-St. Louis
Pouliot-Moore-Boyle
McDonagh-Fox
Staal-Stralman
Yandle-Klein
You know the goalies.
Panarin-Brassard-Zuccarello
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Hagelin-Richards-St. Louis
Pouliot-Moore-Boyle
McDonagh-Fox
Staal-Stralman
Yandle-Klein
You know the goalies.
The Nemesis
Semper Tyrannus
Marleau - Thornton - Pavelski
Hertl - Celebrini - Meier
Eklund - Couture - Zetterlund
Ward - Tierney - Wingels
ex: Nieto
Dillon - Karlsson
Burns - Boyle
Vlasic - Braun
ex: Demers
I guess Jones? or Blackwood if you're cool with smaller samples
Askarov
Unfortunately if we cut things off at 12-13 that means missing the best years of Clowe and Douglas Mruray as well as the likes of Rob Blake, Scott Nichol, Jamie McGinn and other role players. I don't love how heavily the d corps leans on the offensive side of things, especially the adventure pair of Burns and Boyle, but really most of the team's better stay-at-home guys were from the era just before this and I'm not sure I'm giving spots to Colin White or deadline acquisition Roman Polak. Maybe you take the tail end of Paul Martin's career and toss aside Karlsson on the grounds that he wasn't a Shark as long as Burns and Boyle were and that his career in teal was more up and down even with the Norris win?
And yes, that 4th line is as checking line as I could make it because I couldn't come up with 3 more strong star-level or near-star-level players up front. That's also why the 3rd line is Couture with two of the more fun wingers on the current roster.
Stive Morgan
Stive's Two Dads
The Nemesis
Semper Tyrannus
The way things ended make it hard for me to put him in. Maybe in a few more years time and distance will soften my stance (because I'd like to wear my jersey again too
)
Not to shit on you or the Rangers, but Brassard being the best center you've had in ~12 years is not optimal.
Amazing W, D and G anyway.
And oh, you left Zibby out. I guess on purpose
Fair. His last season was basically the only positive that year.The way things ended make it hard for me to put him in. Maybe in a few more years time and distance will soften my stance (because I'd like to wear my jersey again too
