Speculation: Your team's 2016-2017 lineup

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CrypTic

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I think that the lineup in the stickied thread is a good guess:

Hertl
- Thornton - Pavelski
Boedker - Couture - Donskoi
Goldobin - Marleau - Ward
Nieto - Tierney - Karlsson
Wingels

Vlasic - Braun
Martin - Burns
Dillon - Schlemko
DeMelo

Jones
Dell

Bolded are the ones that are the most questionable IMO. Thornton and Pavelski + Couture and Donskoi are probably locks, though Donskoi can play on the left if needed. Defensive pairs are probably locks, although DeMelo might play his way into the bottom pair. Backup goalie is a question mark, though Dell is the most likely.

A lot depends on whether Meier, Goldobin, Sorenson, or others make the team. We won't have any good guesses until training camp is over. If Meier makes the team, I'd like to see:

Meier - Thornton - Pavelski (Thornton is good with rookies, Meier normally plays RW but should still be good on LW)
Boedeker - Couture - Donskoi
Marleau/Goldobin - Hertl - Ward/xx
Marleau/Nieto - Tierney - Karlsson/Wingels/xxx

Some of this depends on how well Boedeker plays with Couture and other players as well as which rookies make the team. It puts Hertl at center, where he was a possession monster last season (on the 2nd line when Couture was out). That Marleau-Hertl-Ward line didn't score as much as ppl would have liked, though, so they may not want it again.
 

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Pearson - Kopitar - Gaborik

Purcell - Carter - Toffoli

King - Dowd - Brown

Clifford - Latta - Lewis

Nolan, Shore, Andreoff, Mersch, Auger


Mcnabb - Doughty

Muzzin - Martinez

Gravel - Greene

Forbort, Scuderi, Gilbert, Trotman


def moves to be made. going to be the most interesting and intense kings training camp in years.
 

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Barberio Emelin

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Skobel24

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He reversed the lines for some reason. I have no problem with Stajan as the 4th C.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Brouwer
Shinkaruk - Backlund - Frolik
Tkachuk - Bennett - Ferland/Chiasson
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson/Ferland

Brodano
Jokipakka - Hamilton
Engelland/Wotherspoon - Wideman

Elliot
Johnson
 

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Pacioretty Galchenyuk Radulov
Carr Plekanec Gallagher
Lehkonen Hudon Shaw
Mitchell Desharnais Andrighetto
Byron (Flynn, Danault, Matteau on waivers, Flynn loses spot to get rookie Lehkonen and Hudon beats Danault)

Beaulieu Weber
Markov Petry
Emelin Pateryn
Barbeiro

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MayDayMayDay

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Opening night, I think we're looking at:

Ennis - ROR - Okposo
Kane - Eichel - Reinhart
Moulson - Girgensons - Fasching
Foligno - Larsson - Gionta
Deslauriers

Kulikov - Ristolainen
McCabe - Bogosian
Gorges - Nelson
Franson

Lehner
Nilsson
 

Desert Panther

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My best guess:

Huberdeau - Barkov - Jagr
Jokinen - Trocheck - Smith
McCann - Bjugstad - Marchessault
Crouse - MacKenzie - Sceviour
McKegg

Yandle - Ekblad
Pysyk - Demers
Matheson - Petrovic
Kampfer

Luongo
Reimer
 

danielpalfredsson

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Hoffman-Turris-Stone
MacArthur-Brassard-Ryan
Smith-Pageau-Lazar
Pyatt-Kelly-Neil
(x)Puempel
(x)McCormick

Methot-Karlsson
Phaneuf-Ceci
Boroweicki-Wideman
(x)Claesson

Anderson
Hammond​

The HST line, Hoffman-Turris-Stone got **** done last season. They were broken up and at times put back together, and then Turris had his Gumby injury which put a stop to that line entirely. MacArthur has great chemistry with Turris, but putting Hoffman with Turris and Stone should be too great of a combination to pass up on.

Ryan with Brassard seems like a given at this point. This is an exciting season for Bobby Ryan. This is the first time the Senators have provided Ryan with a skilled left handed playmaker at centre. Previously, Ryan spent a lot of time playing with Zibanejad who is more of a shoot first centre. Anyone watching Ryan in Ottawa can attest that instead of focusing on being the shooter on his line, Ryan has had to mould his game to fit those he was matched with instead of having players matched with him that fit his game. Ryan had the most success in Ottawa on a line with Turris and MacArthur, but Turris is a right handed centre which put Ryan at a disadvantage as the finisher on that line. Ryan is a two faced player. For the last two seasons he has been a near PPG player for the first half of the year, but has completely dropped off in the second half. Brassard and a better off season could be the key to unlocking Ryan's 30 goal potential. If his value has dropped enough, he would be a good reclamation type pickup in a hockey pool. If any year in Ottawa is going to be Ryan's, it is going to be this one.

Smith and Pageau made a great duo last season. They are both natural centres, one left handed, one right, so it puts Ottawa in a position where they have two faceoff men on one line. Depending on what side the puck will be dropped on, the more beneficial of the two can take the draw. This is a huge benefit for a third line, especially one getting d-zone draws. I'd say there is a small chance the Senators top line from late last year when Turris was out Smith-Pageau-Stone is kept together with someone else as the 1RW if they want to go with three strong ES lines, but I wouldn't bet on it.

A name that will surprise some on the Senators lineup is Pyatt. Pyatt was signed earlier this off season. His signing was speculated to have been done at the recommendation/request of new head coach Guy Boucher who coached Pyatt in Tampa and coached against him last year in Switzerland. With that in mind, it seems logical to assume he'll be on the team.

Puempel is on the team. He earned a spot on the team at the end of 14-15 but suffered an injury. He "made the team" in 15-16 but was forced to start in the AHL due to being exempt from waivers when others weren't. He is no longer exempt from waivers, so it is almost unfathomable that he wouldn't be given a spot. Puempel's been forced to play a bottom 6 role in the NHL but was drafted as a goal scorer. He has put up big enough numbers in the AHL, but he might have a hard time finding an offensive opportunity on the Senators left side with Hoffman, MacArthur, and Smith already there. There is a small chance he gets a shot in the top 6 with MacArthur and Smith pushed down the lineup but I wouldn't bet on it.

Ottawa usually rolls with 14 forwards/7 defense. The last spot at forward is the hardest one to predict. The three favourites would be Dzingel (RW/LW (left handed), McCormick (LW), and Paul (C/LW). All three are different kinds of players. Dzingel is a speedy playmaker, while McCormick is more of a hard working energy guy/pest, and Paul is a young big bodied centre who played wing when up with Ottawa last season. If I had to guess, I would say McCormick gets the final spot. McCormick could fill in perfectly fine on the 4th line when needed, and he doesn't have enough upside for the Senators to worry if he spends a good chunk of the year keeping the press box warm. Paul especially, and to a lesser extent Dzingel would benefit more from getting big minutes in the AHL early on instead of wasting away as a healthy scratch in Ottawa.

As far as the defense goes, there are no huge surprises. It is the same as last year. Pierre Dorion has been looking for a veteran bottom pairing defender to play with Chris Wideman who Dorion seems to be very high on. Dorion described Wideman's play as tentative last season, and thinks that with Wideman now used to the NHL the former AHL defenseman of the year will have a breakout season. The Senators have yet to find their ideal bottom pairing guy. Whether or not Dorion is blowing smoke, he has claimed to be comfortable with what they have on defense going into the season. If he is being honest, it wouldn't be surprising to see Ottawa go in with what is listed above. Claesson seems like the most obvious 7th defender. Ottawa really doesn't have anybody else and Claesson at the very least was passable in a limited role last season. Mike Kostka and Patrick Sieloff round off Ottawa's defensive depth chart, and neither seem to be better options than Claesson. Now you can see why Dorion wanted to add another bottom pairing defender......Although Chabot was criticized for his play by assistant GM Randy Lee at Ottawa's rookie camp a month or so ago, it wouldn't be a huge surprise to see the 2015 18th overall pick be tried out for 9 or less games in the NHL. He's already signed to a contract, the Senators don't have a lot of bottom pairing depth, and it would give them a chance to see how Chabot fares in the actual NHL. Chabot is not old enough to play in the AHL, so if he doesn't make the team, which he most likely won't, he'll have to return to the QMJHL.

Goaltending is incredibly straight forward. The big question isn't who are the goalies, but how will the games be divided. Will we see Anderson play a vast majority of the games? Or will Hammond get a solid 30 or so starts? Anderson has two years left on a very affordable contract. Despite his age, he has not shown any signs of slowing down and in the past former GM Bryan Murray has talked about how he and the Senators staff believe that despite Anderson's age he still has a lot of hockey left in him due to playing so little earlier on in his career. Anderson had a big workload last year as Dave Cameron seemed to be almost afraid to rely on Andrew Hammond. Hammond has proven to be a solid backup goalie and has a few years left on a cheap 1 way contract.

Hammond is most likely not penciled in as the goalie of the future. Ottawa has Matt O'Connor and Chris Driedger fighting for third in their depth chart. Driedger is younger and has looked more impressive than O'Connor who had a troublesome first year as a pro in the AHL. But the Senators completely revamping their AHL coaching staff and firing Senators goalie coach Rick Walmsley might be an indication that the blame for O'Connor's tough transition has been placed on someone other than himself. O'Connor is still very much Ottawa's goalie of the future and could get some time in the NHL if one of Hammond or Anderson go down, but this season will be huge in determining the long term projections for the upcoming 25 year old RFA.
 
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sebsisles

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The Isles lines that id like to see


Ladd Tavares P.A

Lee Barzal Strome

Kulemin Nelson Prince/Bailey

Chimera Cizikas Clutterbuck

Leddy Hamonic

Dehann Boychuk

Hickey Pulock

Greiss
Halak
Berube
 

Not So Mighty

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What's not being understood here? There are two comments already about how there are already TWO sticky versions of this thread.

Please contribute to those and kill this thread. Kill it with fire.
 

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Benn - Seguin - Nichushkin
Janmark - Spezza - Sharp
McKenzie - Eakin - Eaves/Ritchie
Roussel - Faksa - Hemsky

Hamhuis - Klingberg
Oduya - Johns
Lindell - Nemeth/Benn

1. Lehtonen 2. Niemi
 

Aladyyn

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Opening night, I think we're looking at:

Ennis - ROR - Okposo
Kane - Eichel - Reinhart
Moulson - Girgensons - Fasching
Foligno - Larsson - Gionta
Deslauriers

Kulikov - Ristolainen
McCabe - Bogosian
Gorges - Nelson
Franson

Lehner
Nilsson

If this happens...
 

BBKers

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Rick Nash --- Derek Stepan --- JT Miller
Evander Kane --- Mika Zibanejad --- Mats Zuccarello
Chris Kreider --- Kevin Hayes --- Jimmy Vesey
Michael Grabner --- Josh Jooris --- Jujhar Khaira
Extras: Pavel Buchnevich, Nathan Gerbe/Nick Jensen (Oscar Lindberg on LTIR)

Ryan McDonagh - Dan Girardi
Nick Holden - Dylan McIlrath
Brady Skjei - Julius Honka
Extra - Adam Clendening

Henrik Lundqvist
Annti Raanta
 

Charlie Conway

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Rick Nash --- Derek Stepan --- JT Miller
Evander Kane --- Mika Zibanejad --- Mats Zuccarello
Chris Kreider --- Kevin Hayes --- Jimmy Vesey
Michael Grabner --- Josh Jooris --- Jujhar Khaira
Extras: Pavel Buchnevich, Nathan Gerbe/Nick Jensen (Oscar Lindberg on LTIR)

Ryan McDonagh - Dan Girardi
Nick Holden - Dylan McIlrath
Brady Skjei - Julius Honka
Extra - Adam Clendening

Henrik Lundqvist
Annti Raanta

Something you're not taking us? :naughty:
 

BBKers

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Something you're not taking us? :naughty:

Unfortunately more of my own personal wishes than what I have heard. Which is not a lot as this management is much less inclined to spill the beans outside of their core group than what the previous one was.
I have however heard they are not done changing the roster yet - though that probably does not mean what I posted above. More like wishful thinking like the thread implies
 

westc2

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Same lineup as last season except Perron/Sobotka/Hutton instead of Backes/Brouwer/Elliott.

(Lines definitely not set but these are the rumored lines they'll start out with, maybe..)

-Steen-Stastny-Tarasenko
-Fabbri-Lehtera-Perron
-Schwartz-Sobotka-Berglund
-Upshall-Brodziak-Jaskin
Reaves/Paajarvi

-Bouwmeester-Pietrangelo
-Edmundson-Shattenkirk
-Gunnarsson-Parayko
Bortuzzo

Allen
Hutton
 

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Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Miller - Zibanejad - Zuccarello
Vesey - Hayes - Buchnevich
Grabner - Gerbe/Lindberg(injured) - Fast

McDonagh - Klein
Staal - Mcilrath
Skjei - Girardi

Lundqvist
Raanta
 

namttebih

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:isles

Andrew Ladd - John Tavares - PA Parenteau
Anders Lee - Mathew Barzal/Ryan Strome - XXX/Ryan Strome/Josh Ho-Sang
Nikolay Kulemin - Brock Nelson - Josh Bailey
Jason Chimera - Casey Cizikas - Cal Clutterbuck
Shane Prince, Alan Quine
LTIR: Mikhail Grabovski

Nick Leddy - Travis Hamonic
Calvin deHaan - Johnny Boychuk
Thomas Hickey - Ryan Pulock
Scott Mayfield

Jaroslav Halak
Thomas Greiss
JF Berube

As of now there's definitely going to be competition in camp for a top-6 spot, probably coming from Barzal and Ho-Sang.

Is Grabbo done in the NHL ?
 

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Sens of Anarchy

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Clarke MacArthur-Derick Brassard-Mark Stone
Mike Hoffman-Kyle Turris-Bobby Ryan
Zach Smith-JG Pageau-Curtis Lazar
Ryan Dzingel-Chris Kelly-Chris Neil

Marc Methot-Erik Karlsson
Dion Phaneuf-Cody Ceci
Mark Boroweicki-Chris Wideman

Craig Anderson
Andrew Hammond

see sticky http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2104107

Also much prefer

Clarke MacArthur-Derick Brassard-Bobby Ryan
Mike Hoffman-Kyle Turris-Mark Stone

Brassard with Ryan
Hoffman and Ryan on different lines.
 

DJJones

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Am I the only one getting a kick out of imagining everyone getting mad about the sticky every time this gets bumped?
 

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