GDT: Your New Jersey Devils vs. Edmonton Oilers, 1 PM, MSG+: Another New Year Awaits

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jkrdevil

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Yeah how is that not challengable but a toe offside 10 minutes before is?

It shouldn’t be challengeable, because possession is a subjective call. Honestly, the league cut us a break but not giving us a delay of game penalty for an illegal challenge.

(also the staff may have been told by the refs before the challenge that they could challenge only to be overruled by Toronto after checking the rule. Thus no penalty).
 

larueskee

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Never quit on a play. It seemed that everyone thought that possession was gained except the refs. Shees.
 

tr83

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If Nas gets ejected maybe that would fire up the team.

His postgame should be a rant directed at Bettman.
 

Devils731

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The ref started looking at the play and his buddy came over and was like “ ummm , I don’t think you can challenge a missed stoppage in play. This is awkward… what should we do… shit. They touched it twice.. not once but twice… umm. You think of something “

I think that’s what happened. They saw the replay, knew they screwed up, and then realized they can’t have looked at video and didn’t know what to do.

Against the Devils they would have called it no goal as a way to “get the call right”.
 

SpeakingOfTheDevils

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That's insightful, Cangy, but it doesn't make this any less stupid.

How is there not catch-all language in that provision? Why is the rule application restricted to only what is explicitly listed? You will never get down in text every single conceivable possibility that can happen in a hockey game.
 

I Hate Tie DOMI

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1. These refs don’t know what possession is
2. Allowed a coach to challenge a play that was not allowed to be challenged.

How can these refs be in charge of a game if they don’t know the rules that they are supposed to be following in the first place?
 
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Blender

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Here's the actual rules from the rulebook. It seems they decided that because it says "by the attacking team" that means us playing the puck was not reviewable. Who wrote this shitty f***ing rule?

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tr83

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It shouldn’t be challengeable, because possession is a subjective call. Honestly, the league cut us a break but not giving us a delay of game penalty for an illegal challenge.

(also the staff may have been told by the refs before the challenge that they could challenge only to be overruled by Toronto after checking the rule. Thus no penalty).

If the refs are judges, then let them judge.

Why can refs decide how long a puck is out of sight before they blow the whistle?
 

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Blackwood is reminding me of Cory these days with the amount of rebounds he's giving up.
If he's injured, he shouldn't be playing. That simple. Shut him the f*** down until he heals whatever is ailing him.

I think if Schmid weren't up and Gillies wasn't in protocol, he'd probably already be getting benched more. They probably don't wanna throw Schmid out there because first of all, he looked bad in his two games and second of all, he's only 20 years old and they have some aspirations for him to be something one day and don't want him getting ripped apart in the NHL before he should even be getting games in the NHL at all.

If it were Gillies back there, they'd be okay with letting him get ripped apart out there if Blackwood isn't playing, but not Schmid or Daws if he were healthy.
 

Blender

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What happened to the league's "we just want to get the calls right" mentality?
 
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No they stopped playing. Jack was complaining about no whistle before they even scored.

Jack was complaining because he failed to get possession after it hit his tape, and both Blackwood and Graves were still playing. Blackwood couldn't push across and Graves couldn't block the pass after inexplicably chasing the play instead of leaving the shooter to Mac and covering the pass.
 

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Here's the actual rules from the rulebook. It seems they decided that because it says "by the attacking team" that means us playing the puck was not reviewable. Who wrote this shitty f***ing rule?

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thet is really poorly worded. So any play where the stoppage should have been called when the attacking team did something that should have resulted in the stoppage? No way that is the internet of the rule. So if the refs blow the call against the defending team the goal stands? That’s not equitable. Terrible. Any play is supposed to be any play. Any means any last time I checked
 
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Blender

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It begs the question what is the point of replay at all if you can still f*** up calls and not fix them?
I would also say what is the interpretation of "caused by the attacking team"? Is the attacking team surrendering possession to the team on a delayed penalty an action caused by the attacking or defending team? Can you actually distinguish between that?
 
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