GDT: Your New Jersey Devils (42-32-7, 91 Pts) vs. Detroit Red Wings (38-35-7, 83 Pts), 7:30 PM, TNT/Max

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If Jake Allen wants to come back and he is happy to sign for league minimum, i'll bring him back next season to backup Marky.

Daws is fine as a number 3 goalie. Yes, he will go through waivers next season but I think it will be low risk that he will actually get claimed. He didnt have a good year in Utica. Maybe that not all his fault given Utica team was trash.

Allen is 18th in the league in GAA, and 14th in save %. I can understand if you feel he's not worth signing for next year. But both of those stats are better than say... Ilya Sorokin this year. Or even Jeremy Swayman.

Don't get me wrong - Sorokin/Swaymen are better players. But Allen earned another pay day.
 
I think it’s possible he can be fine next year in the NHL, but it’s too risky IMO. It’s a gamble. It could be a losing one if it doesn’t work out.

But if ir does work out it will free up cap.
I agree its risky but I think it may be necessary (not just Daws but any younger option at backup)

If you run two vets again, it just prolongs the inevitable; do we not run youth the following season, and so on?

Itll always be a risk to get that first young backup in without real options behind them. I think itd be wise to do that now before we truly breakout as a club
 
I left the game early tonight. Figured they had it in the bag with this score

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KJ would also find fault with this scoreline :sarcasm:
 
If Jake Allen wants to come back and he is happy to sign for league minimum, i'll bring him back next season to backup Marky.

Daws is fine as a number 3 goalie. Yes, he will go through waivers next season but I think it will be low risk that he will actually get claimed. He didnt have a good year in Utica. Maybe that not all his fault given Utica team was trash.
Daws has come up and played good as well...Definitely inconsistent play...Not against resigning Allen but he will get a decent contract and if they waive Daws he will get claimed....I think he can be a suitable backup but it's a risk no doubt...Markstrom being inconsistent and a year older makes it riskier as Allen did steady the goaltending for a few stretches this year...I think u have to roll with Daws if Allen wants too much money and term...
 
Don't know if it was posted here earlier, but Dougie didn't look that great. Not that it was expected he would, but it made me wonder how healthy that knee is.

He did have two nice shots, i'd say that just missed. But outside of that, he looked like he was going through the motions. Probably by design (to play at reduced level to test it out, but I started to wonder if we should wait a game or two to bring him back.
 
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Don't know if it was posted here earlier, but Dougie didn't look that great. Not that it was expected he would, but it made me wonder how healthy that knee is.

He did have two nice shots, i'd say that just missed. But outside of that, he looked like he was going through the motions. Probably by design (to play at reduced level to test it out, but I started to wonder if we should wait a game or two to bring him back.
 

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Don't know if it was posted here earlier, but Dougie didn't look that great. Not that it was expected he would, but it made me wonder how healthy that knee is.
I thought he did look good physically.

His skating appeared smooth and his speed appeared normal. He appeared to engage physically with opponents in a normal way. He jumped up into the neutral zone breakout when warranted. He skated lower in the offensive zone when given space.

It didn’t appear to me that physically he was held back by anything.

His issues came from handling pucks and shooting timing, two things I expect to happen after a long layoff.
 
Don't know if it was posted here earlier, but Dougie didn't look that great. Not that it was expected he would, but it made me wonder how healthy that knee is.

He did have two nice shots, i'd say that just missed. But outside of that, he looked like he was going through the motions. Probably by design (to play at reduced level to test it out, but I started to wonder if we should wait a game or two to bring him back.
Thought he was actually one of the better players last night. Just a step behind maybe but thats expected
 
I thought he did look good physically.

His skating appeared smooth and his speed appeared normal. He appeared to engage physically with opponents in a normal way. He jumped up into the neutral zone breakout when warranted. He skated lower in the offensive zone when given space.

It didn’t appear to me that physically he was held back by anything.

His issues came from handling pucks and shooting timing, two things I expect to happen after a long layoff.

Thought he was actually one of the better players last night. Just a step behind maybe but thats expected

Ok guys, I guess it was just me, lol. I was sitting in more straight on like the goalie view seats (105) not my usual seats (108) so I didn't get a good look at his territorial movement across the game, I saw a lot of his shot oops though

Tried to do a multi quote but the ad keeps blocking the submit multi quote! Hand quoting
 
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The Daws discourse I’m seeing online seems weird.

Maybe Daws is never an NHL goalie but his play in the NHL this year was limited and great.

It just feels like part of a bad symptom of online fandom; the need for over the top criticism about every bad performance and extrapolating that bad performance out forever.
 
At least they went out on a high note. Scoring two goals, that's pretty darn good

I actually thought we had a chance to tie it, but both the refs stupid call and also before that, someone on the devils decided to pass laterally drop pass instead of trying to shoot it forward I thought there was a chance there to try for a goal
 
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Nico Daws sucks. Aint it and never will be
I don’t think so either.

I haven’t thought so for a while. Wouldn’t be surprised if Schmid winds up being the better goalie of the two, but his AHL numbers will keep him from getting an NHL job full time, unless he lucks into one via injury. Which is kind of how he got the spot with us in 22-23.

Daws is a backup in the NHL at best and that’s the ceiling. Shouldn’t be the expectation. He’s fine depth.

We’re probably screwed if he’s the backup next year. Then there’s no depth behind him. I don’t think he’d be taken off of waivers, but I wouldn’t bet a whole lot on it.

I didn’t even think we were that bad last night, the quality of goals Daws let in were bad. And the stinker when we cut it to 3-2 with under 3 minutes left was horrible.
 
I don’t think so either.

I haven’t thought so for a while. Wouldn’t be surprised if Schmid winds up being the better goalie of the two, but his AHL numbers will keep him from getting an NHL job full time, unless he lucks into one via injury. Which is kind of how he got the spot with us in 22-23.

Daws is a backup in the NHL at best and that’s the ceiling. Shouldn’t be the expectation. He’s fine depth.

We’re probably screwed if he’s the backup next year. Then there’s no depth behind him. I don’t think he’d be taken off of waivers, but I wouldn’t bet a whole lot on it.

I didn’t even think we were that bad last night, the quality of goals Daws let in were bad. And the stinker when we cut it to 3-2 with under 3 minutes left was horrible.

He probably saw that game as a tryout and let it get to him. We’ve seen him play much better than that.
 
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The Daws discourse I’m seeing online seems weird.

Maybe Daws is never an NHL goalie but his play in the NHL this year was limited and great.

It just feels like part of a bad symptom of online fandom; the need for over the top criticism about every bad performance and extrapolating that bad performance out forever.
In my case it's not based on this game at all, it's based on his AHL game (3.16 GAA, 0.893 SV%) as well as the previous years. I just haven't seen enough consistency yet to feel confident with him in net as a backup. The fact he has been good on limited calls up doesn't mean much, we saw with Shakira, sorry, Akira, how that worked out.

PS: Who else is annoyed by the fact that SV% is not actually a percentage?
 
I don't know how you don't play Sprong in Carolina. He's fast and he's direct. I sort of wish he could play with Jack or Nico. He's definitely not as defensively aware at Tatar but where Tatar thinks "I COULD shoot, but instead, I'm going to try the highest level of difficulty thing and lose the puck", Sprong just shoots. I don't mind it.
 
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