GDT: Your New Jersey Devils (30-19-6, 66 Pts, 3rd Met, W1, 4-4-2 in Last 10) vs. Vegas Golden Knights (31-17-6, 68 Pts, 2nd Pac, L2, 2-5-3 in Last 10)

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I legit am not sure who is a top tier team outside Washington and Winnipeg and I still don't buy Washington.

Carolina has been just as middling we have been, more so since they have been doing it for longer.
Exactly my point. Yes the devils play is concerning the last few weeks, but Carolina is playing middling hockey too. The east is wide open this year. Which is why I keep saying that getting healthy and getting some reinforcements are the two biggest things the rest of the way.
 
Exactly my point. Yes the devils play is concerning the last few weeks, but Carolina is playing middling hockey too. The east is wide open this year. Which is why I keep saying that getting healthy and getting some reinforcements are the two biggest things the rest of the way.
By this logic then a team like Washington who has actually a good roster playing great hockey should be the easy favorite to make it out of the East and then likely get ousted by whoever comes out of the west.

The East is mediocre overall but the devils have been straight up bad for a quarter of a season now. So much copium.
 
By this logic then a team like Washington who has actually a good roster playing great hockey should be the easy favorite to make it out of the East and then likely get ousted by whoever comes out of the west.

The East is mediocre overall but the devils have been straight up bad for a quarter of a season now. So much copium.

over the last calendar month (about a ~quarter of the season, as you mentioned), the Devils are 5-5-3 (13 pts in 13 games, or 0.5 ppg)

Vegas is 5-8-3 (13 pts in 16 games, or 0.41 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Minnesota is 7-8-0 (14 pts in 15 games, or 0.47 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Toronto is 7-6-0 (14 pts in 13 games, or 0.54 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Colorado is 7-7-1 (15 pts in 15 games, or 0.5 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Even Carolina is 8-5-2 (18 pts in 15 games or 0.6 ppg), which is okay but not GREAT. Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?


Again, this notion that "ONLY THE DEVILS HAVE STRETCHES LIKE THIS!" just is not true. You don't pay enough attention to what is going on in the rest of the league.

Now, I am EXCLUDING last night's game because that effort was unacceptable. Because I know that is going to be your first response.
 
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We really do have the most myopic view of what good looks like. The league as a whole outside of WPG/WASH has been middling for some time now, AND we’re missing the most important players possible.
 
over the last calendar month (about a ~quarter of the season, as you mentioned), the Devils are 5-5-3 (13 pts in 13 games, or 0.5 ppg)

Vegas is 5-8-3 (13 pts in 16 games, or 0.41 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Minnesota is 7-8-0 (14 pts in 15 games, or 0.47 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Toronto is 7-6-0 (14 pts in 13 games, or 0.54 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Colorado is 7-7-1 (15 pts in 15 games, or 0.5 ppg). Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?

Even Carolina is 8-5-2 (18 pts in 15 games or 0.6 ppg), which is okay but not GREAT. Would you agree they are one of the better teams in the league overall, by all accounts?


Again, this notion that "ONLY THE DEVILS HAVE STRETCHES LIKE THIS!" just is not true. You don't pay enough attention to what is going on in the rest of the league.

Now, I am EXCLUDING last night's game because that effort was unacceptable. Because I know that is going to be your first response.
This can’t be serious. 13 games is not even close to a quarter of a season. The devils have 3 regulation wins in the last 18 games. This is dead last in the league. The only team in a playoff position who’s even in the same conversation is Vegas, whom you mentioned, and who by all accounts have still been playing well during that time period. The devils on the other hand were already not great on even strength offense prior to that stretch and have since been straight up junk offensively, because we have too much dead weight amongst our forward group and we are are also lacking puck movers who aren’t defensive liabilities on the back end, which certain folks just don’t want to admit.

Minnesota and Toronto are pretenders. Carolina is absolutely not as good as their reputation this year. Colorado is top heavy. And nonetheless none of those teams have been as bad as the devils going back to new years. The only team on that list that’s truly surprising is Vegas and it’s already been mentioned that they aren’t even playing bad despite their record. To say nothing of the fact that they have the most stacked roster in the league which common sense dictates that they get a lot more benefit of the doubt than a team who trotted out Dowling on the third line for nearly the entire season.
 
This can’t be serious. 13 games is not even close to a quarter of a season. The devils have 3 regulation wins in the last 18 games. This is dead last in the league. The only team in a playoff position who’s even in the same conversation is Vegas, whom you mentioned, and who by all accounts have still been playing well during that time period. The devils on the other hand were already not great on even strength offense prior to that stretch and have since been straight up junk offensively, because we have too much dead weight amongst our forward group and we are are also lacking puck movers who aren’t defensive liabilities on the back end, which certain folks just don’t want to admit.

Minnesota and Toronto are pretenders. Carolina is absolutely not as good as their reputation this year. Colorado is top heavy. And nonetheless none of those teams have been as bad as the devils going back to new years. The only team on that list that’s truly surprising is Vegas and it’s already been mentioned that they aren’t even playing bad despite their record.

the Devils have played 56 games so far this season. Most other teams are anywhere between 53-55. One quarter of 56 is 14 games lol What are you EVEN talking about that "13 games is not even close to a quarter of the season" lmao? I am using YOUR parameters! You brought up the last quarter of the season, not me.

I JUST SHOWED YOU that those teams have the same or worse point % than the Devils do. Why do you hate factual evidence so much?
 
This was legitimately one of the worst games I can recall ever attending. I just about never leave a game early, but was gone with maybe 6 minutes left. Missed NJ's goal but couldn't care less - just an awful, absolutely boring, putrid performance last night.
 
the Devils have played 56 games so far this season. Most other teams are anywhere between 53-55. One quarter of 56 is 14 games lol What are you EVEN talking about that "13 games is not even close to a quarter of the season" lmao? I am using YOUR parameters! You brought up the last quarter of the season, not me.

I JUST SHOWED YOU that those teams have the same or worse point % than the Devils do. Why do you hate factual evidence so much?
A quarter of a full season. Which is a bigger sampling than 13 games. Stop it with the little games.

You provided factual evidence that those teams sucked just as hard as the devils for a quarter of a season? The devils have the lowest amount of regulations wins across six weeks of hockey. N
And not only that but you ignore that most of the teams you cited are in fact not as great as anticipated.

Again I do not understand this relentless drive to Baghdad Bob.
 
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This was legitimately one of the worst games I can recall ever attending. I just about never leave a game early, but was gone with maybe 6 minutes left. Missed NJ's goal but couldn't care less - just an awful, absolutely boring, putrid performance last night.

It felt like one of the awful games of nightmare seasons of the past. I wish I had just used a buyback for this one. I only went cause I'm not going to the Dallas game on the 22nd and there's not another home game until March 7th.
 
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