Confirmed Trade: [WSH/CGY] Andrew Mangiapane for 2025 (Colorado) 2nd round pick

[Donner]

Not sure what Calgary is thinking. If they are tanking and offloading Markstrom/Magiapane for draft capital- well doesnt MTL get their first round pick next season.

And if they are doing this to create cap space and will go hard in UFA signings this offseason to build a competitive roster, well this doesnt make sense either. Since most UFA signings you have to overpay for, and most come with term. You dont build a team with UFA signings, and the whole reason to trade AM was because he was overpaid

 

[Volica]

Not sure what Calgary is thinking. If they are tanking and offloading Markstrom/Magiapane for draft capital- well doesnt MTL get their first round pick next season.

And if they are doing this to create cap space and will go hard in UFA signings this offseason to build a competitive roster, well this doesnt make sense either. Since most UFA signings you have to overpay for, and most come with term. You dont build a team with UFA signings, and the whole reason to trade AM was because he was overpaid

No.
Montreal won’t get out first if it’s under 10. Hence why we’re moving all these pieces out.

 

[Bond]

You and I both know that ownership loves doing that.

Let’s give Conroy a July 1st with cap space. I think Treliving loved doing it. Worst part of his GMing.

If Wolf gets completely overwhelmed that of course could drop us down more but it's just as likely that we have some more break out players. I know people hate the mushy middle results, especially in Calgary but that's how I see it playing out.

That’s just because you are a jaded Flames fan lol. I understand the feeling. This team is bad tho.

 

[DJJones]

Let’s give Conroy a July 1st with cap space. I think Treliving loved doing it. Worst part of his GMing.


That’s just because you are a jaded Flames fan lol. I understand the feeling. This team is bad tho.

I'd be fine if the team was tanking level bad this year. I just don't think it is, nor is that their plan.

And this summer will likely include a few threads about "wtf are Calgary doing bringing in quality players"

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I don't want UFAs, they're expensive and on long term.

I want overpaid guys that no longer fit on their teams cap structure but are still decent.

Well, my point is that guys like Zadorov, Brodie, Tanev probably not coming back here as UFA

 

[DJJones]

Well, my point is that guys like Zadorov, Brodie, Tanev probably not coming back here as UFA

Nor do I want any of them. Well I'd love Tanev but it makes no sense, go chase a cup and get a retirement contract.

 

[Donner]

No.
Montreal won’t get out first if it’s under 10. Hence why we’re moving all these pieces out.

I see now. Flames have to tank hard enough to have a bottom-10 pick and give Floridas 1st.

This trade does make more sense now at it does help with the tank.

Theyll have to make some tank moves and offload another roster player or two to ensure they secure a bottom 10 finish. Even bottom 7 as the draft lotto could push them down 2-3 spots

 

[PensandCaps]

Honestly have felt Mangiapane has been overrated

He hasn't come close to replicating his 21-22 season and generally looks more 3rd liner than top 6 talent

5v5 rates are top6 level.

 

[PensandCaps]

I don't understand why the Washington Capitals of all teams are trading high picks for win-now players, especially guys with only 1 year left on their deal.

Win-win. If he gets you a playoff appearance, cool. If you're out, no shortage of teams wouldn't want him for around a 2nd, especially when he'll be easier to fit on the cap for every team.

 

[habsterr]

Good trade for the Caps, they add a good player for cheap. Worst case trade him at the deadline for similar value.

I see now. Flames have to tank hard enough to have a bottom-10 pick and give Floridas 1st.

This trade does make more sense now at it does help with the tank.

Theyll have to make some tank moves and offload another roster player or two to ensure they secure a bottom 10 finish. Even bottom 7 as the draft lotto could push them down 2-3 spots

It's likely a late first from Florida but it will get interesting if Florida pick doesn't transfer over.

 

[Donner]

Good trade for the Caps, they add a good player for cheap. Worst case trade him at the deadline for similar value.


It's likely a late first from Florida but it will get interesting if Florida pick doesn't transfer over.

Wouldnt the only way it wouldnt transfer over is if both Calgary and Florida picks were top 10 picks, and then MTL gets the better of the two picks

Hard to see Floridas pick being top 10, but you never know

 

[Holtbyisms]

Typical Canadian team trade thread. Goes from discussion about the trade to a full on roster discussion that should be had on their team board. lol

Great trade for Washington for the simple fact they will be able to offload him at the deadline for at least a comparable pick, potentially even upgrading the pick since COL will be good this season. If he has a big contract year kinda year, he might be worth a late 1st at the deadline. At worst the Caps break even with the trade and get a offensive stop gap while we hold off the rebuild for at least another season.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

That really is concerning that Treliving signed Mang for 5.8M...what in the world.

Amazing what a 35 goal season will do for your (agent's) negotiating powers.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Surprised he got a 2nd with no retention. He has been a decent 3rd line guy for the last 2 seasons, nothing more. Flames want Pelts in that spot beside Coleman and Backlund

 

[PlushMinus]

What about Mangiapane? He does play both wings

Yeah of course he could play 2RW. Milano and Protas have both played LW so they could swap sides. Washington's coach (Carberry) tried all kinds of line combos last season and will definitely do so again.

 

[Nanuuk]

Calgary was converting an existing asset into a future asset with the idea of replacing him with a free asset, i.e. a UFA such as DeBrusk or a drafted prospect.

Gaining an additional 5.8M of cap to play with and changing the roster composition (team dynamic) are additional benefits.