Would a soccer style loan system work in the NHL?

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Nah i would not want the player risking a career ending injury while playing for another team

 

[SeaChaser]

I'm a hockey fan. What is this "soccer" thing?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Last time I checked football was the number one sport in the world.

Even if you check only countries that have ice hockey, then football is still ahead everywhere except Canada and Finland.

Actually, ice hockey does something wrong if it can't beat football even in winter countries like Russia, Sweden and Norway.

so? Just because something is the most popular doesn't mean its the best

Aren’t they between different leagues? Not sure how it would work in the NHL and what purpose it would serve

they can be in the same league. In Italy for example Juventus usually has like 20 different guys loaned out to a bunch of bottom table teams every year

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

This doesn’t really go against the cap though. All cap hits are transferred. The advantage is that it might allow a team to loan a player on a long term deal to a team that only wants to try that player for a shorter period of time because they aren’t sure about how he’ll fit or because their future cap structure won’t allow it.

What's the incentive tho? It's essentially a trade that reverses.

What benefit would Calgary get from loaning out Rasmus Andersson and then having to send back whatever they got for him in the swap?

 

[Cloned]

What's the incentive tho? It's essentially a trade that reverses.

What benefit would Calgary get from loaning out Rasmus Andersson and then having to send back whatever they got for him in the swap?

They don’t send back what they got unless it was a loaned player as well.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Will never happen in the NHL. The injury factor alone would nix it. Player development is another huge reason when it comes to younger players. A team can't tell another team how it wants its player developed. As someone else mentioned, the players union would never allow it for multiple reasons.

More of an idea for a sim management game than anything real world. It's really not even needed to begin with in today's NHL.

Soccer is not comparable to the NHL. Umteen leagues across the continents. Thousands of pro players representing most every country. Different financial structure and rules. Different objectives and league/tournament structure than the NHL. Completely different beast.

 

[Chileiceman]

One thing that OP did not mention (I have not read whole thread to see if it's been pointed out elsewhere) is that in soccer the player must agree to the loan. Generally they do because it will be their only opportunity to gain meaningful playing time that season. So for those saying that the PA would not agree to this system, they probably would if they had the ability to have final say on the loan proposal. In many cases it could help a player's career.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Last time I checked football was the number one sport in the world.

Even if you check only countries that have ice hockey, then football is still ahead everywhere except Canada and Finland.

Actually, ice hockey does something wrong if it can't beat football even in winter countries like Russia, Sweden and Norway.

Maybe you're on the wrong forum?
Is there an sfboards.com?
I don't care myself, but you might want to check it out.

 

[1989]

Maybe you're on the wrong forum?
Is there an sfboards.com?
I don't care myself, but you might want to check it out.

If you don't care, then don't post in a thread in which the title clearly insinuates the topic will be about whether/how implementing a different player development/salary structure from another sports league might possibly benefit the NHL. This topic technically has less to do with the sport (hockey, football, whatever) and much more to do with how to manage its player assets. If anything, you're in the wrong place.

The NHL is just one example of a professional sports league - it doesn't represent how international professional league management systems have to work, and it's certainly not likely that it's the only system that works for hockey, but it is the most entrenched one currently.

A few things come to mind:

• I don't believe the loan system (and the oft-suggested relegation system) would work in hockey for many reasons, one being that hockey is a much smaller sport internationally and player development from loaning doesn't really work well without a larger pool of decent international professional leagues.
• The NHLPA probably doesn't want their players to be sent to European professional leagues where the team quality tends to be on par or even worse than the AHL or ECHL unduly (being the big fish in a small pond is not great development), and the NHL doesn't appear interested in letting teams play around with salary cap more than it already is.
• In the current system, NA players especially already see the KHL and other pro leagues as last-chance options. NHL/AHL teams assign players to their ECHL affiliates - asking the player to willingly negotiate a new contract seems like it would just never happen depending on the league because the player doesn't see it as a real opportunity.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If you don't care, then don't post in a thread

I'll post wherever the f i want. If you missed the point of my post try reading the one i responded to again.