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Worst President's Cup winning team, Best non-President's winning team

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There are many examples of PC winning teams winning the SC in the years before, during or after. Florida, TBay, Washington, Chicago are recent examples. Usually teams getting to and/or winning the Cup multiple times are complimented with a PC winning season in the years surrounding.

What team was the worst in terms of winning the PC then completely fizzling out in the playoffs and were never a factor in the years before or after? I.e. their PC can be considered a one-off win by a somewhat mediocre team. The most recent teams to fit the criteria of not getting to a SCF would be the 2010 Caps and the 2009 Sharks.

How about a team that had multiple SCFs but never won the PC? The 2016 and 2017 Pens are the most recent team to fit this criteria.
 
The 2007 Sabres fell off hard, but they also lost key pieces in Briere and Drury, and the fact that the League backed away from enforcing penalties very strictly probably hurt them offensively.

I think that contrary to popular belief, the 2015 Rangers had more than just Lundqvist. Their defense was decent enough and they had great scoring depth and an excellent rush/counter attack game but lacked prime offensive superstar talent and fell off fast.

The 2024 Rangers were pretty weak for a League-leading team. They had great special teams but were top-heavy and mediocre five on five.
 
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The 2007 Sabres fell off hard, but they also lost key pieces in Briere and Drury, and the fact that the League backed away from enforcing penalties very strictly probably hurt them offensively.

I think that contrary to popular belief, the 2015 Rangers had more than just Lundqvist. Their defense was decent enough and they had great scoring depth and an excellent rush/counter attack game but lacked prime offensive superstar talent and fell off fast.

The 2024 Rangers were pretty weak for a League-leading team. They had great special teams but were top-heavy and mediocre five on five.
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The 2015 Ranger made it to the SCF. The Sabres got to two ECFs.

The 2000 Blues got to WCF. So did the 2009 Sharks. The 2003 Sens got to the ECF.

The 2010 Caps are the only PC winner that didn't make it as least to a CF in the years surrounding them. Of course that team was always in the hunt and mainly the same core did win another PC and eventually the Cup.

The 2008 and 2009 Pens could be one of the best non PC winning teams (and maybe they get added to the later Pens team). The Devils from 1995 to 2003 are up there too. The late 80s Habs also.
 
best non winner: 1988 oilers, 79 habs, 80, 83 islanders, basically any dynasty team that had an off year. Non dynasty teams maybe the 97/98 wings, 96 avs. Lots of choices.


Worst winner is much more interesting IMO. I would pick the 08-09 sharks. Zero fight or backbone on that team outside of Roenick who was washed up for 5 years at that point.
 
2000 Blues comes to mind right away. They never fizzled so to speak. They were always pretty good, but in 2000 they exploded. Pronger's Hart season and all. But they got bounced in the 1st round by the Sharks, which was shockingly bad at the time. A goal from outside of the blue line by Owen Nolan in Game 7 hurt them.
 
The President's Trophy has existed since the 1986 season. So in terms of teams that didn't get the trophy there are dynasty teams (1988 Edmonton) plus Detroit/Dallas/New Jersey/Colorado teams from the late 1990s early 2000s that didn't get it. I'd have to think it's one of those teams, probably Edmonton, though I admire daver's dedication to naming several Pittsburgh teams that would not merit consideration. So I'd go with Edmonton 1988 as the answer here, ignoring the weird argument made in the OP and sticking to the given title of the thread.

Maybe I'm alone here but Nashville's 2018 President's Trophy seemed totally random to me and I did not consider Nashville a serious threat to win the Stanley Cup. I lean toward that being the weakest winner. Pretty much any of the 2015-2018 teams would be serious contenders, as worst President's Trophy winning teams, to me. Never really thought about why that period seems like a weak point in terms of teams... maybe the awkwardness of the NHL becoming much more speed focused around 2015. I don't really know.

I agree with the 2009 San Jose suggestion as a team that did not feel scary at all. I will disagree with 2007 Buffalo though, I'd say that Buffalo very, very likely wins the 2006 Stanley Cup if it isn't wrecked by injuries and was still a threat in 2007. 1990 Boston felt very good but not like a great team.
 
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The 89 Habs team was a great team that didn’t win either trophy. The Habs were considered contenders pretty much the entire time Roy was part of the team and ended up winning 2 cups, but imo far and away the best of the Roy Habs teams was the 89 team. Just ran into a Calgary team that had the best year in franchise history.
 
A bit like smallest giant, hard to win this over 82 games while being bad, but I would tend to agree with Nashville maybe...

But they went to the cup finals the year before which maybe should exclude them from consideration and did beat Colorado
 
Worst Presidents Trophy winning team has to be a tie between the 2014 and 2023 Boston Bruins.

Two weak-ass miserable first round playoff crapouts.
 
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