Worst Habs trade in the last 15 years

[Milhouse40]

Which of these trades would you consider the worst in the last 15 years?

Before anyone ask why I included the Shaw trade in the polls......that's because one of the pick the Habs gave up was used to draft Debrincat.

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[Halakitlikethat]

The Shaw trade is horrible, as is the Serg trade. The Subban/Weber trade pissed me off the most, but the worst is definitely the Gomez trade.

 

[Andy]

Gomez
Drouin

Nothing really comes close to being as bad as those.

The Shaw trade was unnecessary, but the value is pretty much what those type of players go for (we traded Eller for a similar package).

The Weber/Subban thing was not catastrophic, but it just sent the team into a tail spin of aimlessness and mediocrity. Outside the COVID cup and the play in, the Weber saga had terrible teams. Aged the core without supporting it. If not for a fluke run, Weber's most memorable moments with the habs would have been breaking Gallagher's hand twice. Can't think of any other clear Weber memories during his time with the habs.

In retrospect, the Drouin trade is just brutal. Sergachev just turned 25. ( I will admit that my initial reaction was that it was a good trade).

The Kotkaniemi situations has the potential to be up there. It wasn't a trade per se, but there is still headroom for this to be completely awful.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

I mean it's hard to say which one is worse between Drouin and Gomez. I'll go with Gomez since Drouin was not a player on decline who was clearly overpaid. Drouin had upside but that first year was brutal with how he was treated.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Man, I still can't believe we went out and got a guy named Michael Busto.

Edit: Voted Drouin.

 

[salbutera]

Which of these trades would you consider the worst in the last 15 years?

Before anyone ask why I included the Shaw trade in the polls......that's because one of the pick the Habs gave up was used to draft Debrincat.

FWIW Scott Gentille of The Athletic said last week, one of the reasons DeBrincat didn’t have much interest in the marketplace is there’s a belief in management around the league he’s a pure Patrick Kane creation.

 

[Mrb1p]

Its Drouin, hands down.

Id say Gomez 2nd but you have to ignore everything around the Dvorak one for it to be 2nd.

As Scott Gentille of The Athletic said last week, one of the reasons DeBrincat didn’t have much interest on in the marketplace is there’s a belief in management around the leagu he’s a pure Patrick Kane creation.

He had 66 points last year on the Sens.

Is he gonna score 40 goals without a Kane caliber player? Probably not.

 

[26Mats]

Which of these trades would you consider the worst in the last 15 years?

Before anyone ask why I included the Shaw trade in the polls......that's because one of the pick the Habs gave up was used to draft Debrincat.

It's a close one for me between the Sergachev trade and the McDonagh trade.

I McDonagh because he so far has been the more impactful player, and who knows what that core of Price-McDonagh-Subban-Pacioretty-Markov would have done. They got to the conference finals without McDonagh and only lost when Price was knocked out by Kreider.

But Gomez had a much bigger impact than Drouin. He allowed us to get Cammalleri and Gionta and go to the conference finals also. Albeit that was with an older core that soon faded.

Its Drouin, hands down.

Id say Gomez 2nd but you have to ignore everything around the Dvorak one for it to be 2nd.


He had 66 points last year on the Sens.

Is he gonna score 40 goals without a Kane caliber player? Probably not.

Drouin is worse than Gomez. But so far McDonagh is better than Sergachev.

Plus, we were lucky with Gomez that the NHL instituted that one time buyout. If not dragging Gomez's albatross and higher contract around under a much lower cap would have made dragging Drouin's contract these past few years look like a walk in the park.

 

[the]

Drou-Drou trade for me. At least Gommer was useful his first year with us.

 

[Milhouse40]

Gomez
Drouin

Nothing really comes close to being as bad as those.

The Shaw trade was unnecessary, but the value is pretty much what those type of players go for (we traded Eller for a similar package).

The Weber/Subban thing was not catastrophic, but it just sent the team into a tail spin of aimlessness and mediocrity. Outside the COVID cup and the play in, the Weber saga had terrible teams. Aged the core without supporting it. If not for a fluke run, Weber's most memorable moments with the habs would have been breaking Gallagher's hand twice. Can't think of any other clear Weber memories during his time with the habs.

In retrospect, the Drouin trade is just brutal. Sergachev just turned 25. ( I will admit that my initial reaction was that it was a good trade).

The Kotkaniemi situations has the potential to be up there. It wasn't a trade per se, but there is still headroom for this to be completely awful.

I didn't put the Subban/Weber trade for that reason too.
Although I hated it, it was not lopsided like the Gomez or Drouin trade in which we really got screwed in terms of skills.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Drouin/Gomez are both horrible so it's hard to decide between the two. Gomez was probably a slightly "dumber" trade to make in that he was on a huge contract and the decline was much more obvious, but he also did at least provide a couple good years (and was great in the 2010 playoffs in particular) and Drouin never really lived up to that for even one season. I think ultimately I've got to go with Drouin even if McDonagh is the better player as we really just got nothing out of that trade at all and traded away something that was a big obvious need. At least when we traded McDonagh we still had Markov and Hamrlik around.

Shaw doesn't belong on this list IMO. I didn't like it at the time but he was very good for us and we got back most of what we paid when we traded him back to Chicago just 3 years later. I guess we can do the Debrincat thing with him but I can't see it as anything close to the worst trade of the past 15 years when we paid two 2nds for him at 25, got three very good prime years out of him, and then traded him before his age 28 season for a 2nd, 3rd, 7th.

 

[Zorro]

Drouin trade AINEC (yup bringing this one back!)

 

[Milhouse40]

It's a close one for me between the Sergachev trade and the McDonagh trade.

I McDonagh because he so far has been the more impactful player, and who knows what that core of Price-McDonagh-Subban-Pacioretty-Markov would have done. They got to the conference finals without McDonagh and only lost when Price was knocked out by Kreider.

But Gomez had a much bigger impact than Drouin. He allowed us to get Cammalleri and Gionta and go to the conference finals also. Albeit that was with an older core that soon faded.


Drouin is worse than Gomez. But so far McDonagh is better than Sergachev.

Plus, we were lucky with Gomez that the NHL instituted that one time buyout. If not dragging Gomez's albatross and higher contract around under a much lower cap would have made dragging Drouin's contract these past few years look like a walk in the park.

I went with the Drouin trade personnally as I think Drouin was a worst player than Gomez for us and I think Sergachev will end up being better than McDonaugh

 

[Runner77]

We love doing this to ourselves.

 

[Milhouse40]

We love doing this to ourselves.

Slow summer.....

 

[26Mats]

I went with the Drouin trade personnally as I think Drouin was a worst player than Gomez for us and I think Sergachev will end up being better than McDonaugh

Yes, that's fair. At this point no one really knows for sure how good Sergachev will ultimately be offensively and defensively. He has a long career ahead, so we'll see.

McDonagh slowed down offensively relatively early, but was still stellar defensively. We'll see what happens with Sergachev.

 

[calder candidate]

I think it close because all these trade bad, I gave the edge to Gomez because that contract was horrible when we made the trade and like most of these trade MTL took a lot of risk from a weak position.

I rank them had following
Gomez
Drouin

Shaw
Dvorak


Bourque that trade look like a win vs. the others…

 

[ML16]

Very close, but I have to give the edge to the Drouin trade, slightly ahead of the Gomez one - if only because: Sergachev > McDonagh.

On a side note, the Dvorak trade would here complete my « trifecta of fails », but I think it’s the one I despised the most when put in its whole context, namely: Danault + Kotkaniemi / 2022 1st +2024 2nd vs… Gallagher + Dvorak (for a combined 11M AAV…)!

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Wow forgot about some of these.

Well, a special mention to that Douchebag Gauthier for the Cammalleri trade and any and all circumstances surrounding that. I might hate Bergevin for being incompetent, but Gauthier was an horrible person and incompetent. f*** that guy.

Hmmm... Probably Gomez. I didn't love the Sergachev trade at the time just because of positional value but at least it was understandable. Drouin was a highly touted, talented 3rd overall pick. Gomez+ was WTF.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

This is easily the Gomez trade.

Sergachev was at least traded for a 22 year old who had potential when the trade was made. When the trade was made a lot of people around here were happy with the trade.

McDonagh was traded for a guy who a guy who just put up 58 points while making almost $8M and should've basically been a cap dump. When the trade was made people HATED it, even before McDonagh was even announced as part of it. On top of it, Gainey let Koivu walk for nothing despite putting up similar production to Gomez.

The other big difference between the trades is I don't think Sergachev would have been the same player he is today if he was developed here. Julien always wanted his defenseman making the safe plays so I think his creativity and offensive skills would've been neutered here.

A guy like McDonagh played a simpler game that coaches love and I think even with this team's shitty development it would've been hard for them to screw him up.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Which of these trades would you consider the worst in the last 15 years?

Before anyone ask why I included the Shaw trade in the polls......that's because one of the pick the Habs gave up was used to draft Debrincat.

The Sergachev trade had no picks - it was just Drouin for Sergachev. Still probably the worse one, but you've written it incorrectly.

 

[Redux91]

You're telling me.. we gave a 2nd ALSO with Sergachev...?

Lmao I was going to click that one ANYway wow.

 

[Ezpz]

The truth is Sergachev is better than McDonagh ever was. It just hurt more to lose McDonagh because he was exactly the partner than Subban needed and would have made us a real cup contender. The other assets used to acquire Gomez could have been used to grab some forwards.

Sergachev hurts less because we have imploded into a rebuild and he wouldn't have prevented that.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is there even any doubt that Drouin was worse for us than Gomez? He was f***ing bad.

 

[calder candidate]

The Sergachev trade had no picks - it was just Drouin for Sergachev. Still probably the worse one, but you've written it incorrectly.

The pick was conditional to segachev playing less than 40 games or something like that…TB were merciful because pretty sure they could have found a way to only play him 39 games as a rookie… Other exemple of MTL taking on most of the risk…