GDT: World Juniors 2024-25

[kimzey59]

So according to Korac’s interview with Tim Taylor, Stenberg & Lindstein will both be playing SHL for another year and plan on coming over to the States in summer of 2026, correct?

"Another year" means this current season.
Army was talking about both of them being in the States for the 25-26 season(most likely(almost certainly) in the AHL but never say never).

I didn’t catch the interview but hunting for it.

I think that makes sense but if Stenberg’s minutes don’t improve by the end of this season I’d guess they’d consider moving him before the next one? I feel every time somebody who is following that situation closely comments on it they’re mentioning he’s not getting much ice time.

Stenberg is buried behind Robin Hanzl and Henrik Haapaala on Malmo.
It's not a great place for his development, but he's too important for Malmo's 3rd line to be moved.
Unless they drop out of the PO hunt, I don't see them moving him.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

John Carlson averaged 25:58 during the 17-18 Cup run. He played 20:12 at even strength, 3:38 of PP time and 1:47 per game of PK time. Definitely wasn't an all situations guy? What are we doing here

He was fairly sheltered for those minutes and didn’t take many hard defensive matchups, so I personally think that knocks him just outside of that all situations level

 

[Reality Czech]

He was fairly sheltered for those minutes and didn’t take many hard defensive matchups, so I personally think that knocks him just outside of that all situations level

If Carlson wasn't then I'd argue Petro wasn't either, considering Bouw/Colt did a lot of the heavy lifting on D.

But that's splitting hairs. Both Petro and Carlson should be considered true 1Ds in their respective Cup runs.

 

[TheOrganist]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/st-louis-blues/players/stenberg-lindstein-put-shl-season-on-hold-for-unfinished-business-at-world-junior-championship

I guess it depends how you interpret his “after next year” comment

 

[StlBigFly]

"Another year" means this current season.
Army was talking about both of them being in the States for the 25-26 season(most likely(almost certainly) in the AHL but never say never).



Stenberg is buried behind Robin Hanzl and Henrik Haapaala on Malmo.
It's not a great place for his development, but he's too important for Malmo's 3rd line to be moved.
Unless they drop out of the PO hunt, I don't see them moving him.

Seems about normal then. Maybe the icetime is fine.

Tarasenko had periods of basically no icetime with SKA his same year development season and also headed over at his age 21 season. His age 20 season his icetime got better. Seems like that path is just fine. You’d maybe guess the 2 (Lindstein and Stenberg) get some ahl time where tarasenko did not but I’d only say that since tarasenko’s initial role was “go score goals”, but these 2 prospects will probably have a bit different role at first that maybe requires a few months adjusting to rink size.

 

[HighNote]

I feel like the Petro argument is insane

because we're saying that a player who, over a thousand NHL games, scored fewer than 4 points less than one of the greatest defensemen of his generation, both taking top minutes in all situations, both the undisputed best defender on their team.

but also "debatably" wasn't a top 10 NHL defenseman???

what is happening

I mean, I'm with you. I think he is.

 

[PocketNines]

I mean, I'm with you. I think he is.

Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were arguing that even though you do agree, the fact that you have to debate on the point it suggests it's debatable.

I think the reason it's head spinning is because my whole argument = "Remember?" and then a gesture at all of Blues history

He was fairly sheltered for those minutes and didn’t take many hard defensive matchups, so I personally think that knocks him just outside of that all situations level

Let me argue it another way; if two years from now we had that version of John Carlson added to the other three (Broberg, Parayko, Lindstein), I would personally feel it was sufficient to Cup contend

 

[BlueMed]

Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were arguing that even though you do agree, the fact that you have to debate on the point it suggests it's debatable.

I think the reason it's head spinning is because my whole argument = "Remember?" and then a gesture at all of Blues history


Let me argue it another way; if two years from now we had that version of John Carlson added to the other three (Broberg, Parayko, Lindstein), I would personally feel it was sufficient to Cup contend

I would agree with that although I don't have a super high impression of John Carlson. He is offensively inclined but just defensively capable enough to not require a Krug-level of sheltering, and he'd be a good 4th piece to that group of 3. What fans feel now is the absence of Petro. During his prime, he was easily a top 5 defenseman in the league among the likes of Doughty, Hedman, Keith, and Weber. I'd even place him above Josi, Burns, and Karlsson given his obvious superior defense.

 

[StlBigFly]

Petro is sneakily mean as hell too. If he were a stockier guy there would be Pronger comps all day.

Guys like Doughty are great but when push comes to shove Doughty will whine to the refs while Pietrangelo is landing an uppercut. (Haula knows)

Super underrated.

Or like when that one Vegas series he was clearly being targeted and then went full tomahawk on whoever that was (Draisaitl). I like that he solves his own problems.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Petro is sneakily mean as hell too. If he were a stockier guy there would be Pronger comps all day.

Guys like Doughty are great but when push comes to shove Doughty will whine to the refs while Pietrangelo is landing an uppercut. (Haula knows)

Super underrated.

Or like when that one Vegas series he was clearly being targeted and then went full tomahawk on whoever that was (Draisaitl). I like that he solves his own problems.

Or that time he was a butt cushion versus Dallas….what a badass. Stick with his super stick play as a top 10 elite defenseman. That’s the limit of it.

 

[TheOrganist]

Fins looked pretty good. Good game.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Great play by Jiricek stripping Pekarcik. Jecho floats an assist for the goal. 2-0 Czechia.

 

[542365]

Slovakia looks awful. Czechs are taking it to them.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Slovakia looks awful. Czechs are taking it to them.

Slovakia is awful.

 

[BlueMed]

Slovakia is awful.

Yep, which is why evaluations of Dvorsky during this tournament need to take that into account.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Yep, which is why evaluations of Dvorsky during this tournament need to take that into account.

Guarantee you they won't. He'll get downgraded to bust status by the usual overreactors.

 

[PocketNines]

Yeah the Slovaks are overmatched right now, with Stancl just smashing Slovaks

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Dvorsky with a strong stick in front of the Slovakian net that likely saved a goal.

Czechia looks really good. Wouldn't be surprised to see them in the final.

I really don't understand why Slovakia insists on sticking with Jencko on a line with Dvorsky and Pekarcik. It's not working. Their PP setup is way too predictable. EVERYONE knows they're trying to feed one-t's to Dvorsky and they're clogging up that lane. Try something different.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

The Czech's just took three clappers blocked by three different Slovaks. Bodies laying all over the ice.

I believe two of the bombs were Stancl and Jiricek. Pekarcik with one of the blocks. Slovaks playing inspired now! Just scored to make it 2-1!

 

[jura]

ouch! poor slovaks.

 

[TheOrganist]

Pekarcik huge block before the goal. Gave them some life. Hope he’s all right. That had to hurt.

 

[TheOrganist]

Stancl has like 5 chances every shift.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Stancl can't bury the chances but I LOVE how he's using that big body in front and able to get good shots off with people hanging off of him.

 

[TheOrganist]

Stancl can't bury the chances but I LOVE how he's using that big body in front and able to get good shots off with people hanging off of him.

That line just dominated Dvorsky/Pekarcik.

 

[PocketNines]

Stancl must have 15 shot attempts, he had like 6 in that one shift. He is a force