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Norris4Norris

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Before this tournament people were justifying not taking Parekh and Yakemchuk. Their arguments were along the lines of choosing the right role players to fill out the lineup, play defense etc.

I think it is pretty clear now that role players were not what this team needed. Who looks at 2 studs drafted in the top 10 of the last draft and says no I need someone who understands how to play a team game! What game do you think Yak and Parekh were playing? It wasn't f%cking tennis!

How did Dave Cameron and company screw that up. It is U20, they only had a couple of years worth of players to pick from and their decision is to not pick the standouts.
 

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The outcome everyone knew was most likely is what happened. And some of the TSN guys spent the post game trying to massage this bullshit "in hindsight we could have done things differently".

In foresight and in hindsight Hockey Canada didn't pick their roster well and didn't pick a good coach. It was obvious before a single player stepped on the ice. It was obvious each time they reinforced "this is the group" before eventually locking in the group. It was obvious when they cancelled practices for a disjointed team... does Dave Cameron not understand you can have a low intensity practice? You don't need to yell, scream and have them bag skate. You can have them play fun pond-hockey to see who has chemistry.
 

Dan Patrick

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Team composition aside, not practicing, not benching guys who were taking multiple undisciplined penalties, not mixing the lines up until the third period of the elimination game rather than in the play in round should be a massive indictment of Dave Cameron as a hockey Canada coach. I don’t want to see him anywhere near a best on best tournament again.

Also I hope health wise he’s okay because he does not look well.
 

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Canada never quite looked good. Passing was off, shots were not in high danger areas, team had no chemistry, really. Baffling coaching and decisions on and off the ice by Dave Cameron. And the team took huge risks in their player selections that never quite turned out.



One of those smart defense-first RDs they took over Yakemchuk cost them the game. Pretty fitting ending.


Honestly, I find it hard to blame the Dman there (same with the earlier kneeing). Guy is taking the body and a Czech player avoids the hit and goes down easy. Czechs were flopping all over the place.

Canada was undisciplined, but that was one of the worst reffed WJC games I’ve ever seen. 2-3 high sticks missing, McKenna crushed into the end boards, several hooks and trips, nothing. Yet every little thing Canada did, was a penalty. It seemed like when Canada was mounting their comeback, whistles went away. When Canada tied it, whistles came back out. I dunno.
 
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I know everyone's on the hate-on-Cameron train and I'm not really a big fan of his, but I do wonder how much he had to do with the roster. I'm sure he had input but if this was the NHL and just what the GM gave him, this roster is on whoever was making those decisions, and I'm not sure any coach could've got this group a medal, let alone the gold.
 

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I know everyone's on the hate-on-Cameron train and I'm not really a big fan of his, but I do wonder how much he had to do with the roster. I'm sure he had input but if this was the NHL and just what the GM gave him, this roster is on whoever was making those decisions, and I'm not sure any coach could've got this group a medal, let alone the gold.
Yeah, I think the roster is to blame much more than the coaching. Dave Cameron did win this tournament two years ago if I'm not mistaken. Now if Cameron did have a role in choosing this roster, then yeah, fire his ass, along with everybody else. Well, I guess his ass is getting fired no matter what anyway.
 
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OD99

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Canada never quite looked good. Passing was off, shots were not in high danger areas, team had no chemistry, really. Baffling coaching and decisions on and off the ice by Dave Cameron. And the team took huge risks in their player selections that never quite turned out.



Honestly, I find it hard to blame the Dman there (same with the earlier kneeing). Guy is taking the body and a Czech player avoids the hit and goes down easy. Czechs were flopping all over the place.

Canada was undisciplined, but that was one of the worst reffed WJC games I’ve ever seen. 2-3 high sticks missing, McKenna crushed into the end boards, several hooks and trips, nothing. Yet every little thing Canada did, was a penalty. It seemed like when Canada was mounting their comeback, whistles went away. When Canada tied it, whistles came back out. I dunno.
This says it all.

The team struggled all tourney, but they fought back tonight and deserved to win or lose honestly.

The reffing took that away from them. The 2 kneeing penalties were suspect and how the Hell do you not call an elbow to the head on McKenna?
 
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MiscBrah

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This team never looked like winners. Cameron holds a lot of blame, IMO, for all the cancelled practices and the hopeless goal challenge that resulted in a bench minor (there was zero chance that was being overturned). Canada was pushing hard at that moment. The delay from the review, plus the ensuing penalty, killed all the momentum.
 

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This team never looked like winners. Cameron holds a lot of blame, IMO, for all the cancelled practices and the hopeless goal challenge that resulted in a bench minor (there was zero chance that was being overturned). Canada was pushing hard at that moment. The delay from the review, plus the ensuing penalty, killed all the momentum.
Didn't they tie the game *after* the failed goal challenge though? (I could be wrong as I was switching between this game and the Sens)
 

MiscBrah

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Didn't they tie the game *after* the failed goal challenge though? (I could be wrong as I was switching between this game and the Sens)

Yea, like 4-5 minutes after the penalty I think. But they had insane momentum ending the second and going into the third. They were totally overwhelming and finally getting good chances. You keep that pace up and they might be able to get to 4 before taking the penalty at the end.
 
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NyQuil

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It was like watching the Sens over the past few years.

Give up a goal on the first play of the game.

Give up a goal with 2 seconds left in the period.

Take a penalty and lose the game in the last minute of the game after tying it up.

Seem familiar? ;)
 
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Well that was just a disgusting display...and what a waste of using our city as the venue. Total slap in the face from Hockey Canada. Feel for all the people who spent big bucks to see Canada go far.
 

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Sam Dickinson with the worst period by a Canadian player all tournament. Horrendous, brutal, embarassing.

There was probably 5 or 6 plays not including the unlucky bounce. 0 effort, 0 care, 0 IQ
He is soooo bad. Same with Gibson
 
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Burrowsaurus

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Before this tournament people were justifying not taking Parekh and Yakemchuk. Their arguments were along the lines of choosing the right role players to fill out the lineup, play defense etc.

I think it is pretty clear now that role players were not what this team needed. Who looks at 2 studs drafted in the top 10 of the last draft and says no I need someone who understands how to play a team game! What game do you think Yak and Parekh were playing? It wasn't f%cking tennis!

How did Dave Cameron and company screw that up. It is U20, they only had a couple of years worth of players to pick from and their decision is to not pick the standouts.
Cameron picked this team to prove a point. He’s always been an arrogant prick
 

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