World Cup SF: Sep 11 GDT - Czech Republic vs. Canada

[Brad*]

Czechs seems to be skating around the Canadian team. Never thought I would see that.

Do you mean I might have memorized the Canadian national anthem for nothing?

 

[Ola]

Great players don't suck at the highest level, they excel at it, it is what makes them great. Dopita sucked, don't call him a great player, or even a good one. He had little heart and whatever talent he does have--and I'm sure he is quite talented, a lot of teams have had his rights, and he's been a big time player in Europe--he showed only sparingly.

There is a saying, "Don´t try to teach a old dog to sit...".

Dopita was what 32(?) when he played his first game in the NHL, a game completly diffrent game from what he had played for two decades...

 

[Brad*]

"Don´t try to teach a old dog to sit..."

 

[Fish on The Sand]

There is a saying, "Don´t try to teach a old dog to sit...".

Dopita was what 32(?) when he played his first game in the NHL, a game completly diffrent game from what he had played for two decades...

dont try and teach an old dog new tricks is what you mean lol

 

[Badman]

Thanks for your wisdom. The guy has 33 career points. 33. Is that the mark of a great player? And don't give me "he wasn't used properly," when he was with the Flyers he was given plenty of opportunity. He was used on the PP, the Flyers had injuries on the wing and at center all year long and he couldn't capitalize on his chances, save for a game against Atlanta where he scored 4 of his 11 goals that season. He had his chance, and he failed. He was moved to Edmonton, where he had his chance as the second line center, mustered 6 points in 21 games, and IIRC then asked for a release because his heart wasn't in it (or if I do not recall correctly, was simply outright released). And if he is a 'great player' as you so claim, he would not have struggled with the change over from Europe to NA, because that's another mark of greatness. So please, don't call him great, because he has shown nothing to indicate that he is a great player.

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So by your logic, Vladimir Krutov wasn't a great player because he didn't produce when he played for Vancouver at the end of his career?

Badman

 

[Zine]

Great players don't suck at the highest level, they excel at it, it is what makes them great.

Give credit where credit is due, Dopita is a really good player.
He, in fact, has excelled at the highest level (Nagano, Salt Lake, this tourney), a level much higher than the NHL.

The NHL isn't for everybody, as some player's skills just don't translate well to the NHL style game.

 

[Dr Love]

There is a saying, "Don´t try to teach a old dog to sit...".

Dopita was what 32(?) when he played his first game in the NHL, a game completly diffrent game from what he had played for two decades...

He was 33. Completely different? Not at all. It's certainly different, but too say it's completely different is almost as bad as saying... that he's a great player. Yes, had he come to the NHL 5, 6, 7 years earlier he probably would have faired better. But he isn't a great player today, as FOTS claims.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

I can't believe you guys are arguing about Dopita when there's so many other things to talk about

Like how well Bouwmeester is doing

 

[Bloody Sabbath]

What a chance by Dopita

 

[Dr Love]

Give credit where credit is due, Dopita is a really good player.
He, in fact, has excelled at the highest level (Nagano, Salt Lake, this tourney), a level much higher than the NHL.

The NHL isn't for everybody, as some player's skills just don't translate well to the NHL style game.

No, he was a really good player. Hell, I'll concede that he is a pretty good player today. But that's not my point. My point is that he isn't a great player.

I'm just tired of hearing "great" player thrown around so much. Fans do it, but the athletes are the worst. A journeyman middle reliever/3rd line winger/fresh warm NBA body is added to a team, and "he's a great player and he'll really help us out a lot." It's a pet peeve I have, I know it's probably a petty one, but it's one of those little things that annoys me in the sports world.

 

[shakes]

Good lord.. are the Czechs on a PP or something? Canada is skating around like they are chickens with their heads cut off..

 

[Ocelot]

I just started watching. Seems like Canada is getting out played.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

So now Vokoun is making saves at both end of the ice...

EDIT (for those watching CBC)

 

[Zine]

No, he was a really good player. Hell, I'll concede that he is a pretty good player today. But that's not my point. My point is that he isn't a great player.

Great players don't suck at the highest level, they excel at it, it is what makes them great. Dopita sucked, don't call him a great player, or even a good one. He had little heart and whatever talent he does have--and I'm sure he is quite talented, a lot of teams have had his rights, and he's been a big time player in Europe--he showed only sparingly.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Why is Pat Quinn not playing Lecavalier and St-Louis..

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Wow

 

[DevMod9]

Luongo is playing great. Canada is back on its heels.

 

[Bloody Sabbath]

Yes Brewer!!!!!

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Brewer scores

 

[think-blue-]

GOALLLLLLLLLLL!!

Canada Awesome job Thornton on that shift. Goal by Brewer

 

[Jussi]

I still can't understand why Brewer is on the team...

 

[Shiv5r 7]

1-0 !!!

 

[Dr Love]

I said I'd concede that he was a pretty good player. That implies that I am chaning my statement.

Is this really worth bickering about? I don't think so.

 

[Bloody Sabbath]

What a chance by Vyborny...oh my......

 

[Chaos]

Wow...Vyborny blows a great opportunity to tie it right back up...shoots it into Luongo again...