World Cup of Hockey 2028

[1Gold Standard]

Think you. I was under the mistaken impression that the federations ran the leagues in most countries. I was wrong. In any event, it seems there are ways for he NHL to get around the IIHF. But personally, I think the IIHF will come around.

It's crazy that I have to repeat this over and over again everytime the NHL has a marketing brain fart on what kind of international commercial tournament they can hold without the IIHF involvment.

The invidivual sport federations of each representative country via the IIHF has to agree for Team(s) "Insert Country Name" and to use a facsimile of their national team uniforms. And the NHL cannot use it without their consent. It is trademark copyrighted.

Let's just use Team Sweden as an example. trademark Three Crowns on a blue/yellow jersey. If the Swedish Ice Hockey Federation says, no thanks we're not interested in your commercial tournment and do not consent... then Team Sweden in their national team jersy cannot compete in the tournament.

What the NHL can do is get some off color generic blue jersey with yellow trimming and call it NHL All Stars from Sweden. And they will have to do that for most of the 8 competing proposed 8 teams.

I imagine the money grubbers at Hockey Canada and USAH will roll over and do whatever the NHL wants. (including allowing the teams currently banned) but there will be pushback from all others.

No, this tournament the way Bettman is envisioning it. won't happen.

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[Tawnos]

It's crazy that I have to repeat this over and over again everytime the NHL has a marketing brain fart on what kind of international commercial tournament they can hold without the IIHF involvment.

The invidivual sport federations of each representative country via the IIHF has to agree for Team(s) "Insert Country Name" and to use a facsimile of their national team uniforms. And the NHL cannot use it without their consent. It is trademark copyrighted.

Let's just use Team Sweden as an example. trademark Three Crowns on a blue/yellow jersey. If the Swedish Ice Hockey Federation says, no thanks we're not interested in your commercial tournment and do not consent... then Team Sweden in their national team jersy cannot compete in the tournament.

What the NHL can do is get some off color generic blue jersey with yellow trimming and call it NHL All Stars from Sweden. And they will have to do that for most of the 8 competing proposed 8 teams.

I imagine the money grubbers at Hockey Canada and USAH will roll over and do whatever the NHL wants. (including allowing the teams currently banned) but there will be pushback from all others.

No, this tournament the way Bettman is envisioning it. won't happen.

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It's pretty funny to see someone say that this is some kind of major roadblock considering the tournament going on right now.

 

[Tawnos]

Think you. I was under the mistaken impression that the federations ran the leagues in most countries. I was wrong. In any event, it seems there are ways for he NHL to get around the IIHF. But personally, I think the IIHF will come around.

It's more complicated, because just shutting down a league doesn't mean you've got access to the best players from the country the league is in.

Just for example, let's say the Czechia hockey federation shuts down Extraliga for the two weeks. That doesn't give the national team access to David Tomasek, who is the leading scorer in the SHL, in the event they want him.

 

[varsaku]

It's pretty funny to see someone say that this is some kind of major roadblock considering the tournament going on right now.

If it wasn't a roadblock we would be seeing more than 4 nations at this tournament. Clearly an agreement couldn't be reached to get more nations involved.

 

[Tawnos]

If it wasn't a roadblock we would be seeing more than 4 nations at this tournament. Clearly an agreement couldn't be reached to get more nations involved.

The teams not involved here have nothing to do with trademark issues.

 

[Yukon Joe]

It's crazy that I have to repeat this over and over again everytime the NHL has a marketing brain fart on what kind of international commercial tournament they can hold without the IIHF involvment.

The invidivual sport federations of each representative country via the IIHF has to agree for Team(s) "Insert Country Name" and to use a facsimile of their national team uniforms. And the NHL cannot use it without their consent. It is trademark copyrighted.

Let's just use Team Sweden as an example. trademark Three Crowns on a blue/yellow jersey. If the Swedish Ice Hockey Federation says, no thanks we're not interested in your commercial tournment and do not consent... then Team Sweden in their national team jersy cannot compete in the tournament.

I'm certainly not an expert on EU/Swedish trademark law, but I have taken course on trademark law. I really do not think this is correct.

(for starters - trademark/copyright are two different things. What you're talking about here are trademarks. Copyright is for more artistic works, like a song or a book)

In Canada (which I know best) - you would be prohibited from using official government symbols like the Government of Canada wordmark or the Coat of Arms. Supposedly you're prohibited from using the flag itself without permission, though I don't think this is strongly enforced.

But no one is prohibited from using a red maple leaf or the word Canada. If you want to use the exact 11-point red maple leaf as it appears on the flag maybe, but a red maple leaf by itself? My friend nature itself invented that - no possible trademark.

For Sweden - if you want to use the exact model of the three Crowns that appears on the coat of arms, or the Swedish air force - then you have problems. But just three generic golden crowns on a blue background? I believe anyone would be fine. This wiki article suggests three crowns have been used in many different applications.

Now you want to be careful and not exactly replicate any specific design. You couldn't use the exact jersey from, say, the 2016 World Cup.

No - the reason the IIHF needs to be involved is for scheduling. And the national leagues and national federations would defer to the IIHF rather than negotiate separately with the NHL, as the IIHF would have more bargaining power.

 

[Takuto Maruki]

It's pretty funny to see someone say that this is some kind of major roadblock considering the tournament going on right now.

Says a lot that the Finnish and Swedish ice hockey feds 'rolled over' WRT doing what the NHL wants considering the pro level player base is desperate to represent their country at a high level, whether it be in a league sanctioned World Cup or the Olympics.

 

[Tawnos]

Says a lot that the Finnish and Swedish ice hockey feds 'rolled over' WRT doing what the NHL wants considering the pro level player base is desperate to represent their country at a high level, whether it be in a league sanctioned World Cup or the Olympics.

Did they roll over? Or are they simply not involved in the tournament this year.