World Championship News

[jekoh]

Insurance?

Ah, but insurance will have to be payed anyway (that was the case last season already).

As for Bertuzzi, I think he's suspended by the IIHF as well.

 

[Jazz]

It would be interesting

I would love to see a long-extended tournament with all of the teams participating at full strength (and this would be in essentially a neutral site with Austria as the host).

But then I read this a few months ago, so who knows...

While many people suggest the entire NHL season will be lost because of labour problems, Rene Fasel (IIHF President) quickly pointed out this is not necessarily a boon for the 2005 World Championship in Vienna. “This past tournament,†he explained of the 2004 championship in the Czech Republic, “we paid $1.5 million for insurance of all players on all teams, and half of that was for just three players—Yashin, Forsberg, and Jagr. Imagine if we had 50 players that expensive in Vienna. We couldn’t afford it.â€

source: iihf.com

...As for Bertuzzi, I think he's suspended by the IIHF as well.

The IIHF is only honoring the NHL's suspension - there is no separate ruling by the IIHF. Thus, if Bertuzzi were to be re-instated before the start of the World Champsionships (unlikely though with no NHL season), he would be cleared to play.

 

[Robertsson 4-ever]

It would be a huge blow if the stars can't come to Vienna just 'cause insurance problems. I must be solved somehow.

 

[octopi]

It would be a huge blow if the stars can't come to Vienna just 'cause insurance problems. I must be solved somehow.

It is my understanding that it would be their decision. In other words, feel free to come, but expect your NHL contract to be null and void should you suffer more than a minor injury.

 

[wilka91*]

All the players want an insurance. I think every federation must find a way to make sure their players will play.

 

[Vic Rattlehead*]

You made this up. The NHL and Hockey Canada is not the same thing.

Really? I heard this from TSN. Hockey Canada will not let him play until he gets re-instated. He can't go play for a club in Europe as well until he gets re-instated. I'm not the one making up things, I'm just passing off what I've read and seen.

 

[wilka91*]

Alright, but I just can't see the link between the NHL and the IIHF.

 

[markov`]

It's still 4 months away, but when will Team Canada release their roster?

 

[Lionel Hutz]

Alright, but I just can't see the link between the NHL and the IIHF.

Simple, the IIHF honours NHL suspensions, what is there to not see? There is no link, just and understanding between two bodies.

I failing to see why you would accuse the poster of making it up.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

Ah, but insurance will have to be payed anyway (that was the case last season already).

As for Bertuzzi, I think he's suspended by the IIHF as well.

I mean that is a problem, if not under contract, players have no insurance, and will be understandably hesitant to play.

 

[Jazz]

I mean that is a problem, if not under contract, players have no insurance, and will be understandably hesitant to play.

Like Ziggy Palffy was for the World Cup. He was unsigned after the '03/'04 NHL season and remained so throughout the summer, and just did not play for Slovakia because of this.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

Like Ziggy Palffy was for the World Cup. He was unsigned after the '03/'04 NHL season and remained so throughout the summer, and just did not play for Slovakia because of this.

Exactly. Curious to see how it plays out in the rosters.

 

[Tricolore#20]

Exactly. Curious to see how it plays out in the rosters.

Exactly why this Sportsnet article leaves many questions to be answered.

Obviously, like all other fans, I would hope that being out from NHL competition for so long would persuade players to play, despite the insurance issues. I really doubt that most would risk this however. But if the players love playing for their country, and the competition as they claim they do I can see some players joining. Ryan Smyth immediately comes to mind. I'll be eagerly awaiting Bob McKenzie's comments about this issue, because he usually has the facts right, and can explain it in a manner that makes sense.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

Exactly why this Sportsnet article leaves many questions to be answered.

Obviously, like all other fans, I would hope that being out from NHL competition for so long would persuade players to play, despite the insurance issues. I really doubt that most would risk this however. But if the players love playing for their country, and the competition as they claim they do I can see some players joining. Ryan Smyth immediately comes to mind. I'll be eagerly awaiting Bob McKenzie's comments about this issue, because he usually has the facts right, and can explain it in a manner that makes sense.

I find it very hard to beleive anyone would play with out insurance. What if they suffered a career ending injury? It is within the realm of possibility.

Whether insurance can be obtained otherwise, I have no idea. I'd really like to know.

 

[candon]

Nice thought guys relative to TC roster. Don't expect a fraction of those veteran guys (Pronger, Blake etc etc) to go to some tournament they don't care about without benefit of a minute of playing time since last spring. Not going to happen. You'll get those playing in Europe with maybe a few younger guys here (Iginla?) that's about it. Should still be a competitive team-but dream team-no way IMO

 

[jekoh]

I mean that is a problem, if not under contract, players have no insurance, and will be understandably hesitant to play.

What about Jagr, Yashin and Lidström last season ? Were they without contract, too ?

Also, wouldn't your insurance be cheaper if you're under contract with MoDo (Forsberg) instead of Colorado ?

 

[Raimo Sillanpää]

What about Jagr, Yashin and Lidström last season ? Were they without contract, too ?

Also, wouldn't your insurance be cheaper if you're under contract with MoDo (Forsberg) instead of Colorado ?

your insurance expense would depend on the premium.
Forsberg doesnt need insurance in case of losing out a season at $300k, he needs insurance for missing out a season where he could earn $8million.
Thus the huge insurance expense, regardless of modo or colorado, he needs ot be insured for potential earning from the nhl.

 

[Petey21]

your insurance expense would depend on the premium.
Forsberg doesnt need insurance in case of losing out a season at $300k, he needs insurance for missing out a season where he could earn $8million.
Thus the huge insurance expense, regardless of modo or colorado, he needs ot be insured for potential earning from the nhl.

But unlike the "lockout players", Forsberg doesn't have a contract with Colorado, he would play for MoDo this season even if there was an NHL season, as he has a "real" contract with MoDo and not a "lockout contract" that'd end if the NHL would resume. Wouldn't that make a difference?

 

[Raimo Sillanpää]

But unlike the "lockout players", Forsberg doesn't have a contract with Colorado, he would play for MoDo this season even if there was an NHL season, as he has a "real" contract with MoDo and not a "lockout contract" that'd end if the NHL would resume. Wouldn't that make a difference?

yes but he wants to be insured against potential loss from a future contact

 

[Diaboli]

Simple, the IIHF honours NHL suspensions, what is there to not see?

IIHF honours THIS PRETICULAR suspension. Big difference.

 

[HF2002]

Here's my Team Canada.

Forwards (13)

Vincent Lecavalier
Joe Sakic
Martin St. Louis
Dany Heatley
Brad Richards
Joe Thornton
Shane Doan
Todd Bertuzzi
Ryan Smyth
Simon Gagne
Jarome Iginla
Paul Kariya
Kris Draper

Defensemen (7)

Chris Pronger
Rob Blake
Scott Niedermayer
Wade Redden
Eric Brewer
Adam Foote
Ed Jovanovski

Goalies (3)

Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Jose Theodore

The question is how seriously Canada takes it. A must win or go with a younger team (than it already is) to get experience?

Going young to gain experience:

- drop Sakic, Draper, Kariya, Smyth up front
- drop Blake, Niedermayer, Foote on defence
- drop Brodeur

- add Spezza, Morrow, Nash, Bell
- add/keep Bouwmeester, Hannan, Regehr
- add Fleury or Raycroft

This totals 23 players, so if the IIHF permits 26 on the roster add three youngsters who can practice but won't see a minute of ice time. The idea is to keep them around the atmosphere.

- Crosby
- Jeff Carter
- Phaneuf

Trying to win:
- no explanation necessary

 

[jekoh]

Trying to win:
- no explanation necessary

Nobody seems too concerned that those players haven't played for almost one year and some of them might be grossly out of shape ?

 

[mattihp]

I think Canada will have a lot worse teams than the last two years due to the NHL situation. There is no chance they can get the best players to risk their chance for a salary when the NHL starts up....



I'd say they get 2-3 superstars, 8 good players/stars, a couple of role players and then whatever they can find.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

IIHF honours THIS PRETICULAR suspension. Big difference.

Care to elaborate? Or have I just been hit by a drive by?

 

[Mountain Dude]

- drop Sakic, Draper, Kariya, Smyth up front
- drop Blake, Niedermayer, Foote on defence
- drop Brodeur

- add Spezza, Morrow, Nash, Bell
- add/keep Bouwmeester, Hannan, Regehr
- add Fleury or Raycroft

This totals 23 players, so if the IIHF permits 26 on the roster add three youngsters who can practice but won't see a minute of ice time. The idea is to keep them around the atmosphere.

- Crosby
- Jeff Carter
- Phaneuf

Trying to win:
- no explanation necessary

You need some veteran experience in the dressing room, you gotta keep Smytty around because he's been so dedicated as well.