TSN: WJC ~ Team Canada @ the World Junior Championships

Norris4Norris

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So Petterson is projected to be a potential top 6 forward? At least his numbers are pretty good.

Hamara is not an offensive defenceman based on his numbers. Is he strong defensively?
 

Tnuoc Alucard

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Which prospects we have going?
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BondraTime

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Man what a shitty year for sens prospects for this tourny.
Not really any different than most years. Usually get 2-4 going, both Hamara and Petterson are going to be key players like Kleven, Boucher, Ostapchuk, JBD, Grieg were. We definitely don't have a Sanderson going.

2024 - Riddler, Petterson, Hamara
2023 - Boucher, Ostapchuk, Petterson, Hamara
2022 - Ostapchuk, Hamara, Kleven, Grieg
2021 - Sanderson, Kleven
2020 - Thomson, Pinto, JBD
 

Sens of Anarchy

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You mean for sens prospects in general.

It's been a long time since our prospect pool has been so barren, with virtually no top 6 forwards and only one possible top 4 (Kleven) d-man in the system.

Trading top picks away when your team isn't ready to compete will do it.
 
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Butchy Dakkar

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Not really any different than most years. Usually get 2-4 going, both Hamara and Petterson are going to be key players like Kleven, Boucher, Ostapchuk, JBD, Grieg were. We definitely don't have a Sanderson going.

2024 - Riddler, Petterson, Hamara
2023 - Boucher, Ostapchuk, Petterson, Hamara
2022 - Ostapchuk, Hamara, Kleven, Grieg
2021 - Sanderson, Kleven
2020 - Thomson, Pinto, JBD
I think you forgot Stü, the year he put team Germany on his back. From wiki:

In the 2021 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships, Stützle was named team captain for Germany and led them to the playoff round for the first time in World Juniors history.[20] He tallied five goals and five assists in five games and was named player of the game for the team's second game against Canada.[21] After the tournament ended, Stützle was named best forward by the directorate and one of the members of the media all-star team
 

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I think you forgot Stü, the year he put team Germany on his back. From wiki:

In the 2021 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships, Stützle was named team captain for Germany and led them to the playoff round for the first time in World Juniors history.[20] He tallied five goals and five assists in five games and was named player of the game for the team's second game against Canada.[21] After the tournament ended, Stützle was named best forward by the directorate and one of the members of the media all-star team
He wasn't drafted yet by the Senators I think?

edit: never mind, he definitely was.
 
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Xspyrit

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Trading top picks away when your team isn't ready to compete will do it.

Squandering picks like it's coins in your pockets at the casino too

Going back to the Pageau trade (last trade of the firesale), we SPENT :

7th OA pick
12th OA pick
5 x 2nd
2 x 3rd
2 x 4th
1 x 5th
1 x 6th
2 x 7th

to acquire :

Jakob Chychrun, Alex DeBrincat, Matt Murray, Derek Stepan, Travis Hamonic, Erik Gudbranson, Josh Brown, Austin Watson, Patrick Brown, Dylan Gambrell, Matthew Peca

Opposedly, during that period, we ACQUIRED :

1st (late in 2024)
2 x 2nd
2 x 3rd
3 x 4th
2 x 5th
3 x 7th

by trading :

Alex DeBrincat, Connor Brown, Evgeni Dadonov, Mike Reilly, Nick Paul, Logan Brown, Tyler Ennis, Zachary Sanford, Josh Brown, Erik Gudbranson, Tyler Motte, Christian Jaros, Braydon Coburn and to take on Paquette and Coburn contracts

We also spent 2nd + 3rd + 4th + 7th to move the last ~ 1.33 years of Zaitsev and 75% of the last 2 years of Murray contract

So during the rest of the rebuild after the firesale (Feb. 2020), the end result is

7th OA pick + 12th OA pick + 2nd + 2nd + 2nd + 6th

for

Jakob Chychrun + Travis Hamonic + 1st (late in 2024) + 4th + 5th + 7th


Some might say "ok it's not that bad" but you haven't made the playoffs yet so you're still rebuilding, you've traded some fading prospects (like Brown and Jaros), you could take on some contracts (although that was limited for us with the Melnyk factor) and you've also traded some guys you paid to acquire in the past (like DeBrincat, Connor Brown or Paul) and this is the NET result in asset management?

We'd be better off if we just kept Zaitsev and Murray instead of paying for not being even close to be a playoffs team in the end...


There has been a lot of talk about it but yet, I still don't think people realize how HORRIBAD Pierre Dorion was a a GM.
 
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