Winnipeg Jets clinch Presidents' Trophy

[Turin]

The fact that a team who hasn’t tanked and doesn’t have any flexibility with free agency and trades won the Presidents is pretty remarkable. A feather in Cheveldayoffs cap for sure.

 

[Romang67]

So is this just garbageyuk in ....and garbageyuk out?

I honestly wouldn't waste time on someone who thinks the Jets' losing to the Knights in 2023 means they choked.

 

[sbhnur]

Great season, congrats!

Now go on to the playoffs and don't think you accomplished anything yet. I'm rooting for a good run!

 

[castle]

They really don't

This is a silly statement. Yes, every team is trying to win every game they play. Unless you are suggesting that some teams intentionally throw games during the regular season?

 

[JKG33]

This is a silly statement. Yes, every team is trying to win every game they play. Unless you are suggesting that some teams intentionally throw games during the regular season?

Do they intentionally throw games? Absolutely not. But you're delusional if you think every team treats every regular season game the same. When players like Barkov, MacKinnon, Makar are sitting out because the games don't matter, that really diminishes the value of the President's Trophy.

Again, good for the Jets. Throw a president's party if that's what you're into. But there's no way in hell this is a serious accomplishment in the same way the Stanley Cup is, which is what prompted my posting.

 

[castle]

You're telling me Washington, the team that was within striking distance of Winnipeg for the PT before losing B2B to Columbus, gives a shit?? One of those teams was playing for their ticket to the playoffs, one of them was on cruise control.

The reality is, teams only push it as far as they have to. Washington doesn't care, they've had 1st in the east locked up so they get to play the weakest seed in the east, that's all they care about. Teams like Vegas, Colorado, Florida, Tampa.. they don't care at all so long as they make the playoffs. They're confident they can beat anyone.

I guarantee you teams would handle the regular season differently if the real trophy was handed out after game 82.

So which games during the season did Vegas, Colorado, Florida, and Tampa intentionally lose?

And to your point about Washington, the same is true for Winnipeg. After beating Dallas and Chicago this week they finally locked up their division and the West. And in the very next game they sat Morrisey, Pionk, and Schenn on D and started Comrie in net. So maybe Winnipeg doesn't care about the PT either, since they stopped trying. Really they ended up winning it out of necessity since that's what it took to win their division.

 

[JKG33]

So which games during the season did Vegas, Colorado, Florida, and Tampa intentionally lose?

And to your point about Washington, the same is true for Winnipeg. After beating Dallas and Chicago this week they finally locked up their division and the West. And in the very next game they sat Morrisey, Pionk, and Schenn on D and started Comrie in net. So maybe Winnipeg doesn't care about the PT either, since they stopped trying. Really they ended up winning it out of necessity since that's what it took to win their division.

See my post above about intentionally losing games.

Hey good on them for also shutting down players. But Florida did it when the division was still in reach. I guess they're not as scared of Tampa as the Jets are of Colorado.

Do you think teams would approach the regular season differently if the season ended at game 82? (As in no playoffs, Stanley Cup is awarded to the President's Trophy winner)

 

[S E P H]

Since the Presidents Trophy has been awarded, 23% of the time they've won. 2nd place overall seed has won 21%. 3rd place 18% and so on.

Like bro, I get it, it's fun to be an edge lord and double down when proven wrong, but you're looking hopelessly stupid here.

Quote me when you get eliminated from the playoffs, and the curse still lives on. We will see who will wear the doofus hat looking hopelessly soon enough.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Quote me when you get eliminated from the playoffs, and the curse still lives on. We will see who will wear the doofus hat looking hopelessly soon enough.

Pretty insane response to the guy telling you that at best the Jets still get eliminated 77% of time inspite of winning the trophy.

Very brave call picking the field for a 16 team tournament in a game as random as hockey.

 

[jetsforever]

And the President’s Trophy represents the team that has had the greatest success at qualification with the greatest chance to win the Cup. That’s worth some respect and recognition — which is why there’s a trophy and a banner for it.

More to the point, there’s a LOT more going on in this league than just winning the Cup. You’re missing 99.9% of the story if you’re just focusing on the outcome of the last game of the year.

Exactly - I always point out how 31/32 teams end the season with a loss or missing the playoffs, so you have to enjoy more than just the Cup

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

No, they just look like a lousy hockey team.

Also: I’ve never had a dog.

I’ve never had a Bitch ( female dog)….

Also they looked pretty good to me while watching them lead the league with 55 wins /points (President trophy / least goals allowed ( Jennings trophy / Best Goalie ( Vienza trophy 2 years running. / .

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

Trophy is meaningless, ask the Rangers.

I’m sure if we asked the Rangers they would acknowledge the achievement and point to the Banner signifying the achievement @ MSG/ simply the most famous arena rafters in North America.

But I’m sure there are many other posters on HFB that will agree with your statement and those HFB posters / own personal achievements in finger painting are surely acknowledged in a Banner on their mom’s Fridge.

 

[PhilJets]

Congrats Winnipeg Job well done.

Go get the cup next!!!

The trophy is meaningless until their favorite team actually wins it.

Players play to be the best team regular season or playoff.


Go Jets Go

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

It really doesn't mean much unless you back it up in the playoffs.

It’s a Trophy acknowledgement being the Best team in the league over a 6-7 month /82 game marathon season.

- # 1
- The Best
- crossed the Finnish line first above/ better than the other 31 contestants in the Best hockey league in the world.

Take college hockey - the award Championships for each conference.

Then they have a tournament

The Stanley cup is the Holy Grail and what everybody hopes to achieve / win!

But let’s not diminish/ skip / not acknowledge the Journey and go Directly to the final destination.

Majority of all the major awards giving out at the end of the year NHL Awards Banquet are based off regular season games only.

Presidents Trophy / Hart / Jennings / Vienza / Art Ross / Norris / Rocket Richard Trophy…….

 

[tarheelhockey]

If it brings the fans joy more power to 'em. But the players play for the real trophy, the Stanley Cup. The President's Trophy is nothing more than the highest seeded qualifier for the real tournament, and winning that isn't all that more impressive than finishing 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.

The issue I have with celebrating it as a serious accomplishment is that quite frankly, not every team is competing for it. Teams that know how to get it done come playoff time (Colorado and Florida come to mind) have been resting players for the last week or so already. Teams also aren't going all out for every game of the season like they would be in the playoffs.

Ultimately it's a lot like winning a foot race, but some of the guys you beat were using the race as a warmup jog for the real one. Sure you were the fastest, but it's kinda meaningless when some of your toughest competition wasn't taking it seriously.

But the players actually do play to win in the regular season. Just this week we’ve seen guys laying it out there for teams that aren’t even making the playoffs let alone winning the Cup. Those games still matter to them.

The whole idea that there’s only one thing worth celebrating, just rubs me the wrong way. It undermines the great majority of what happens in the league. And the truth is, 31 teams would happily switch places with the President’s Trophy winner. Nobody’s confusing it with the Cup, but that doesn’t mean it’s nothing.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

Awhile back, I went back the last 20 seasons to check which team in the standings has won the Cup. Interesting numbers.

1st place - (4)
2nd place - (3)
3rd place (3)
4th place (6)
5th place (0)
6th place (1)
7th place (1)
8th place (3)
9th place (1)
10th place (0)
11th place (0)
12th place (0)
13th place (2)
14th place (0)
15th place (0)
16th place (0)

I didn’t go to famous MIT university in Boston!

But my simply math have you awarding the Stanley Cup 24 times in what you say is a graph representing the last 20 years.

I hope you meant since 2000 / but then again my math would have to include the lost season due to labour strife . ( which it would as year 2000 would = zero )

 

[TheLegend]

May the odds be in their favor…..

 

[Wedgeden]

I didn’t go to famous MIT university in Boston!

But my simply math have you awarding the Stanley Cup 24 times in what you say is a graph representing the last 20 years.

I hope you meant since 2000 / but then again my math would have to include the lost season due to labour strife . ( which it would as year 2000 would = zero )

Fixed it

 

[WPGDEVILS]

Since the regular season doesn’t matter because teams rest players and have injuries we should all stop cheering for our favourite players to win the Hart, Ross, Norris and even regular season points because the other guys weren’t trying because it wasn’t playoffs yet.

I think I’m only going to tune in to the last game of the Stanley cup finals since that’s the only thing that matters, I don’t even really enjoy watching hockey.

 

[Fishy]

Alternate title: jets look like shit.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Which brings me back to what I said in the first place — the culture of shitting on other people’s celebrations is odd.

Montreal might very well regard themselves as being “above” this level of achievement, but they’ve never even won the President’s Trophy as it didn’t exist last time they finished in first place 47 years ago. “Different standards” is a backhanded compliment in this context.

They won the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl as an eastern conference team. I would say that's a pretty big accomplishment!

 

[Jets 31]

Do they intentionally throw games? Absolutely not. But you're delusional if you think every team treats every regular season game the same. When players like Barkov, MacKinnon, Makar are sitting out because the games don't matter, that really diminishes the value of the President's Trophy.

Again, good for the Jets. Throw a president's party if that's what you're into. But there's no way in hell this is a serious accomplishment in the same way the Stanley Cup is, which is what prompted my posting.

Let me ask you something, you don't think finishing 1st in the entire NHL for 82 games means anything right ? I don't agree with you at all but don't you think its a fairly big accomplishment doing this in a market where the majority of players don't want to play ? I sure do, just like if Buffalo was able to do this i would say the same thing. Also having home ice advantage throughout the playoffs no matter who you play is also a advantage. Now i agree we have to have a fairly successful playoffs but its not going to take anything away from the accomplishment, at least to me anyway.

 

[Hobble]

Re: curses

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Our HFBoard GDT will take a hit in participation, but that’s a sacrifice we’re willing to make…

 

[Royale With Cheese]

It's a nice thing to have as a fan of the team.

What it means to me personally is that I had a lot of fun watching 82 games of hockey this year. What it means for the team is home ice advantage for the entire playoffs.

This version of the Jets need to show up in the playoffs.

 

[HockeyVirus]

If they choke in the first round again, are there finally big changes?