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I'm not going to expend much energy defending the character of Chris Chelios. I know he's fully capable of being a dick. I've met him twice and he was cool with me both times. Signed a copy of his book and gave it to me once. Ripped on Givani Smith when he was still working for Detroit lol. But yes, I know some Chelios stories, let's just say he's not a nice drunk.Have you ever looked into the shit Chelios got to before he came to Detroit, and afterwards?
I was at a Motor City Mechanics game during the lockout in 04-05, Chelios was on the roster and was supposed to do a signing afterwards. They let the fans wait for an hour and then came out and said he refused to do the signing. He passed by a group of fans who were complaining about it after the game and flipped them off. I've heard this was his standard behavior towards fans during his time in Montreal, Chicago, and Detroit. He's also gotten arrested at least three times and told police (in 1990, MN) that he was going to ruin their lives. He was one of the prime players in trashing the Olympic hotel room back in the 90s. The guy is an asshole and Detroit fans still loved him after he came here.
Again, Kane has had a lot of rumours and allegations around him but Chelios is 100% an asshole from the time he wakes up to the time he goes to sleep. Dirty player on the ice and a huge asshole off of it. His only redeeming factor for Wing's fans was that he wore their sweater, but I know a lot of Wings fans who were sick in 1999 when Holland acquired him.
Sports is entertainment, which is an inherently subjective thing. There are certain players, for various reasons, that I absolutely could not stand to see on the Wings, and wouldn't watch a single game if they were added to the team (because the product would no longer be entertaining, regardless of the level of success of the team).Really..?
No offence but that's bananas...
Marek on his show mentioned the interesting idea and 'such an yzerman move' if he went out and snagged Meier from SJ.
He did play under Boughner so there's some familiarity.
Question is, what would it cost? Obviously we would need a sign and trade type deal for it to make sense.
Do you sell them on taking Zadina and a change of scenery, to play with someone they just obtained a month or so ago, Kaut? IIRC they played together at the WJ but i could be wrong.
Something around Zadina, a non-2023 first rounder, maybe in order to keep Edvinsson and Kaspar out of their mouth, you have to move Wallinder? idk really but it would sure make for an interesting lineup. We would definitely need to move out some forward bodies.
Marek on his show mentioned the interesting idea and 'such an yzerman move' if he went out and snagged Meier from SJ.
He did play under Boughner so there's some familiarity.
Question is, what would it cost? Obviously we would need a sign and trade type deal for it to make sense.
I’d love to see Kaner in a Wings sweater. Douche? Yup. Otherworldly f***in talented? Yup.
I don’t want to hear from any of the people who complain about not having exciting hockey any complaints about trying to acquire Patrick Kane.
I would love to see Larkin get Kane on his wing again like he’s had in some exhibitions and international tournaments
oh.... this whole time I thought Meier was a center. Not really understanding the hype then.
If he makes it to UFA, sure take a swing. But I don't see how trading a 1st++ is a consideration
Pretty sure there is something wrong with me and I just can not differentiate between Timo Meier and Tomas Hertl for some reason. I think I specifically searched out Hertl's stats last week thinking he was the guy available.
Mike Modano is a legitmate arguemnt. Especially considering the era's they played but...People complain about the thought of Kane in Detroit as if he isn't the best American hockey player of all time and wouldn't make the team much more talented and watchable.
Before anyone responds to me.... yes, he is better than that whataboutism that popped into your head. We will see what happens as Matthews and Hughes continue their careers.
oh.... this whole time I thought Meier was a center. Not really understanding the hype then.
If he makes it to UFA, sure take a swing. But I don't see how trading a 1st++ is a consideration
Pretty sure there is something wrong with me and I just can not differentiate between Timo Meier and Tomas Hertl for some reason. I think I specifically searched out Hertl's stats last week thinking he was the guy available.
Mike Modano is a legitmate arguemnt. Especially considering the era's they played but...
Red Wings aren't in a real position to snag Kane and make a run. It's really the only reason I'm against it. Red Wings would have to trade for him and then still add more to be legit cup contenders.
then just make it lotto protected and call it a day, win win.Quite sure 2023 1st rounder is a lock, before you can start any dreaming about Meier.
Yeah, Zadina could be one piece, LHD prospect for sure + other adds.
It simply doesn't feel as though Detroit should spend multiple future assets on adding 34-year old rentals. If we want to go all-in, acquire someone like Meier who we might at least be able to re-sign and build around.People complain about the thought of Kane in Detroit as if he isn't the best American hockey player of all time and wouldn't make the team much more talented and watchable.
Exactly this. Any assets spent this season better be for a player with a 5-6+ year future with the Wings.It simply doesn't feel as though Detroit should spend multiple future assets on adding 34-year old rentals. If we want to go all-in, acquire someone like Meier who we might at least be able to re-sign and build around.
Me too.I’d love to see Kaner in a Wings sweater. Douche? Yup. Otherworldly f***in talented? Yup.
I don’t want to hear from any of the people who complain about not having exciting hockey any complaints about trying to acquire Patrick Kane.
I would love to see Larkin get Kane on his wing again like he’s had in some exhibitions and international tournaments
I've always disliked chelios besides all of this. When I was younger, I played against his son (son thought he was hot shit but was just a puck hog and terrible at everything he tried to do) and my mom said oh hey, your grandpa is getting a signed puck for you from Chelios, so he will be back in a second.Have you ever looked into the shit Chelios got to before he came to Detroit, and afterwards?
I was at a Motor City Mechanics game during the lockout in 04-05, Chelios was on the roster and was supposed to do a signing afterwards. They let the fans wait for an hour and then came out and said he refused to do the signing. He passed by a group of fans who were complaining about it after the game and flipped them off. I've heard this was his standard behavior towards fans during his time in Montreal, Chicago, and Detroit. He's also gotten arrested at least three times and told police (in 1990, MN) that he was going to ruin their lives. He was one of the prime players in trashing the Olympic hotel room back in the 90s. The guy is an asshole and Detroit fans still loved him after he came here.
Again, Kane has had a lot of rumours and allegations around him but Chelios is 100% an asshole from the time he wakes up to the time he goes to sleep. Dirty player on the ice and a huge asshole off of it. His only redeeming factor for Wing's fans was that he wore their sweater, but I know a lot of Wings fans who were sick in 1999 when Holland acquired him.
I literally had the same issue and have no idea why. I thought hertl was meier and meier was hertl. I mean, I guess they look alike?oh.... this whole time I thought Meier was a center. Not really understanding the hype then.
If he makes it to UFA, sure take a swing. But I don't see how trading a 1st++ is a consideration
Pretty sure there is something wrong with me and I just can not differentiate between Timo Meier and Tomas Hertl for some reason. I think I specifically searched out Hertl's stats last week thinking he was the guy available.
Three roster players is a bit much.DET
Meier
SJS
Rasmussen
Zadina
Vrana
Conditional 1st.
All three are NHL players with experience and two of them are under the age of 24. That would get the deal done, pending an even bigger overpayment. If they need a D prospect, then take out Vrana (perceived negative or low value?) for Wallinder.
Just depends on what Grier wants to do. They will either full rebuild or retool on the fly and this helps the retool, but is most likely for a rebuild. They are going to trade Karlsson at some point and I would wager that Couture is next (after meier of course).
DET
Meier
SJS
Rasmussen
Zadina
Vrana
Conditional 1st.
All three are NHL players with experience and two of them are under the age of 24. That would get the deal done, pending an even bigger overpayment. If they need a D prospect, then take out Vrana (perceived negative or low value?) for Wallinder.
Just depends on what Grier wants to do. They will either full rebuild or retool on the fly and this helps the retool, but is most likely for a rebuild. They are going to trade Karlsson at some point and I would wager that Couture is next (after meier of course).