Confirmed with Link: Wings Fire Lalonde and Hire Todd McLellan

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Kane under McLellan this year: 13 points in 8 games
Kane under Lalonde this year: 14 points in 29 games

kinda funny to look at

It also crazy when you look on former Yzerman signed UFAs, who are almost all playing better now.

Chiarot, Copp, Motte, Gustafsson, Holl etc.

Compher and Tarasenko are struggling a bit, but still better on the last 8 games.

And also DeBrincat is at 37-goal pace, not at 27 like earlier seasons.
 
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I'm an outside fan and I'm curious, can I get a TL DW on why your team is good since the coaching change ? I saw people saying it was just Kaner going hot. I'm skeptical. Haven't watched a wings game in a while.
 
Lalonde was so trash. Can't believe how unprepared and stale he had us. We would have definitely made the playoffs last year with Todd.
 
My two cents which aren't even worth that, are that lalondes system and the way Yzerman wanted to build the team were going in different directions.

I don't believe Lalonde was a bad coach, I think he had some things to learn still with only a couple seasons as head coach. However the style of play he wanted to implement was never going to work with guys like kane leading the team.

Even last year the team had way more energy and I felt Lalonde deserved another year to reign in his coaching mishaps and lack of timeouts. It's a shame that he never put it all together here and I really hope he gets another chance even as an assistant. He seemed like a really likeable guy, he just didn't fit Yzerman vision this year (evidenced by yzermans presser where he said he wasn't going to micro manage Lalonde but he had a different vision in terms of playing style, which I'm sure was closer to Tampa's style)

A lot of harsh words being said about newsey, some deserved and some not. As far as I understand most of the players liked him, just not his coaching style, it happens.

Best of luck newsey, you did tremendous work helping the team take the next step, and I wish you all of the luck in the future.
 
My two cents which aren't even worth that, are that lalondes system and the way Yzerman wanted to build the team were going in different directions.

I don't believe Lalonde was a bad coach, I think he had some things to learn still with only a couple seasons as head coach. However the style of play he wanted to implement was never going to work with guys like kane leading the team.

Even last year the team had way more energy and I felt Lalonde deserved another year to reign in his coaching mishaps and lack of timeouts. It's a shame that he never put it all together here and I really hope he gets another chance even as an assistant. He seemed like a really likeable guy, he just didn't fit Yzerman vision this year (evidenced by yzermans presser where he said he wasn't going to micro manage Lalonde but he had a different vision in terms of playing style, which I'm sure was closer to Tampa's style)

A lot of harsh words being said about newsey, some deserved and some not. As far as I understand most of the players liked him, just not his coaching style, it happens.

Best of luck newsey, you did tremendous work helping the team take the next step, and I wish you all of the luck in the future.

You can like the person but dislike the boss. He could rival mother Theresa as a saint, but the fact of the matter is Lalonde is objectively a bad coach. The roster last year underperformed for long enough stretches we missed the playoffs by 1 point. It underperformed this year so bad it got him fired and the team is JUST NOW getting close to where it should be in the standings because of a heater.

This team should probably have 6 to 8 more points than where they are now and be comfortably in the wildcard spot instead of Boston or Columbus. And I'd guess the team would probably be 7-10 points lower in the standings if Lalonde had stayed as the coach right now.
 
You can like the person but dislike the boss. He could rival mother Theresa as a saint, but the fact of the matter is Lalonde is objectively a bad coach. The roster last year underperformed for long enough stretches we missed the playoffs by 1 point. It underperformed this year so bad it got him fired and the team is JUST NOW getting close to where it should be in the standings because of a heater.

This team should probably have 6 to 8 more points than where they are now and be comfortably in the wildcard spot instead of Boston or Columbus. And I'd guess the team would probably be 7-10 points lower in the standings if Lalonde had stayed as the coach right now.

I'm not going to disagree with you. Like I said he was a good assistant and he deserves another chance to be one. Being a head coach just didn't work out for him and I wish him the best.
 
I'm an outside fan and I'm curious, can I get a TL DW on why your team is good since the coaching change ? I saw people saying it was just Kaner going hot. I'm skeptical. Haven't watched a wings game in a while.

Kane doesn't play like this if Lalonde isn't fired, imo. Lalonde lost the team and they quit showing up. In hindsight, I think Boughner was a mistake and Lalonde may have put too much faith in his opinion. Also, I think Lalonde was coaching scared this year. He knew his job was on the line and he turtled it into pushing the blandest, softest, most risk averse hockey possible with the safest lineup decisions possible. Because he knew losing on the ice would equal losing his job, but in the process he crippled himself and lost the team.
 
Kane doesn't play like this if Lalonde isn't fired, imo. Lalonde lost the team and they quit showing up. In hindsight, I think Boughner was a mistake and Lalonde may have put too much faith in his opinion. Also, I think Lalonde was coaching scared this year. He knew his job was on the line and he turtled it into pushing the blandest, softest, most risk averse hockey possible with the safest lineup decisions possible. Because he knew losing on the ice would equal losing his job, but in the process he crippled himself and lost the team.
That could be it. When you have a guy like Kane, as a coach at the NHL level you have to let those type of players be able to draw some X and O's.
 
I always thought of him and Nick Leddy as the same player.
Possibly but for the price he was acquired by the Blues it should have been a no brainer imo, Fowler and Ed on the left side in the top 4 would have been solid. I prefer Fowler to Leddy but you could say they are similar players. Anyway, the team looks good now and Benny is doing fine... but for how long.
 
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I'm just happy the coaching change and subsequent heater has quashed the Walman whining. It's really helped the JW fans with their crushing bereavement.
Walman's Shorks are currently beating us and might end our streak. The bitching will resume (if no one else does it, I will)
 
Not working tonight - check…
Not having to get the kids to/from evening activities - check…
Having the chance at watching the game tonight - check…
Watching them play down to the level of a bottom feeder- priceless!
 
Oilers fan chiming in here- loved Todd when he was here, and is consistently one of the most underrated coaches in the league. He’s an incredible floor raiser- taking young, talented but struggling teams and instilling confidence, accountability, and systems. He’s was hired in McDrai’s rookie years- Mcdavid was always going to be a superstar, but I think Tmac helped Draisaitl’s development in a big way. He’s going to be great for guys like Raymond , Seider and the rest of your young guys. He has his flaws, but he’s a great coach IMO.
 
I'm an outside fan and I'm curious, can I get a TL DW on why your team is good since the coaching change ? I saw people saying it was just Kaner going hot. I'm skeptical. Haven't watched a wings game in a while.
Lalonde had overcoached the team and was terrified of losing his job. So we played safe, 0 creativity, dump and change hockey. By the time of his firing, the whole team was totally disengaged and dysfunctional.

So Todd's come in, told them to trust their instincts and just play. Everyone's having fun and a lot of guys that never found success under Lalonde are playing better. You can see guys that had been totally checked out ten games ago, busting their ass.

Kane is one of the guys that looks totally rejuvenated. He's skating harder than anyone thought he could at this point. Everyone on the Powerplay has seen a huge uptick in production because it's riding at 50%.

The improved play of our defense as a whole is probably the biggest driver of our recent success. Seider has gone super saiyan. Chiarot looks the best he's ever been. AlJo looks great. Erik Gustafsson has transformed from the worst defenseman I've ever seen into a decent player. Ed's been consistently good all year. So we went from 2 functional D under Lalonde to 5 under McLella.
 
I'm an outside fan and I'm curious, can I get a TL DW on why your team is good since the coaching change ? I saw people saying it was just Kaner going hot. I'm skeptical. Haven't watched a wings game in a while.

Lol, anyone saying our streak is because of Kane going nuclear is bonkers. If they watched the Wings under Lalonde, they’d know that Kane isn’t just “getting hot.” They’d know that Kane didn’t even look capable of going on a hot streak under Lalonde. He looked like it was the end of his career. There were debates about him even being wanted by other teams at the TDL because his play in every facet looked spent. Kane under McLellan is putting up points because he’s fully engaged and because the new team structure facilitates so much more movement through the neutral zone than it did before.

Arguably the real reason Detroit is booming right now is because of the defense. Under Lalonde, basically the only guys performing well were the “star” players on the team - guys with enough talent and IQ not to be held back by Lalonde’s shit system. So on the back end, that list starts and ends with Seider and Edvinsson. They looked good under Lalonde and were paired together. But the rest of the defense looked wholly incapable of NHL play. That’s not even an exaggeration.

The first thing McLellan did was split up Mo and Ed to spread the wealth on the defense. But it wasn’t just the redistribution of talent on the back end that made things better, it was also the change in system. Lalonde had the defense sitting back, letting the play come to them, which resulted in our defense always playing catch up to the puck and playing on their heels. McLellan put the kibosh on that and has the defense sitting higher in the d zone and also lets them go on the attack and join the rush, as opposed to just rimming it up the boards.

A testament to this system change is the Chiarot-Seider pairing. We tried that pairing a lot under Lalonde, and it rarely had success and never sustained success. They’d look good together like once or twice every dozen games. But under McLellan? The Chiarot-Seider pairing has suddenly strung together a series of good-to-awesome outings. Seider has always looked good, but now he isn't carrying Chiarot and Chiarot finally looks like the guy he was signed to be: a capable fill-in on the top pairing of a rebuilding team. But it doesn’t end there. McLellan put rookie Johansson with Edvinsson on the 2nd pairing, whereas Lalonde had him in and out of the lineup, never higher than the bottom pairing. Well it turns out Johansson is the type to thrive when paired with a talented defenseman and McLellan’s system suits his game much better as well. Gustavsson is the other piece. Gus makes like $2M and there were buyout discussions about him because even in his small role, he was terrible. Didn’t look like an NHL defenseman. Under McLellan he is so much more engaged. He didn’t look anything like the supplementary offensive defenseman he was supposed to be under Lalonde. But under McLellan, it’s like he’s manifested offensive skill out of thin air. Under Lalonde, he had 5 points in 26 games. Under McLellan, he has 8 points in 10 games.

So McLellan basically imported 3 more NHL defenseman into our roster without any acquisitions needed.
 

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