Confirmed with Link: Wings Fire Lalonde and Hire Todd McLellan

[LongTimeDRWF]

He carried an extra 1 on his math.

However if the team has a January like they did last year, which mentally they are definitely capable of (new coach, new system that they're instantly buying into, guys are happy and encouraged) well we could actually be talking playoffs in March. We have 14 (yes 14) games in January. A lot of them are very winnable. I think if we can go on a tear something like 10-2-2 or 9-2-3 and we play even just have a record of 15-10-6 offer the final 31 games we can get there.

Larkin wants it bad. New coach, players are bought in, and guys like kane, razor, and seider want Larkin to get into the playoffs again. He needs it.

Let's get those points boys. I don't care how it happens but we need 60ish point s in the final 45 games. That's a 66.7% point total going forward.

I have faith!

Just f***in play hockey

Still have time to make it interesting, last year at January 1, after 37 GP, wings were 6th in the WC race one game over 0.500 at 17-16-4 and all the teams ahead of them were well over 0.500 (like 5 games over except the bolts at 3 games over).

The only team ahead of them over 0.500 is the Sens, who currently hold the WC2 spot at 4 games over 0.500, the wings play them 3 more times I think.

Way too soon to toss in the towel for sure, lots of divisional games to be played yet.

 

[SCD]

An interesting article yesterday from Kahn entitled "Red Wings' McLellen to Jonaton Berggren: Let it Loose."

Reading some of these articles about McLellen's interactions with our younger players, it sounds like McLellen is taking off some of the defensive handcuffs that have been instilled by Lalonde. All our young players could benefit from this change to help develop their offensive game. I am not suggesting these players can give up their defensive responsibilities and re-live the AA days. It also could mean Yzerman is more interested in seeing what these players have to offer than pushing the win-now mentality.

 

[Euro Twins]

Still have time to make it interesting, last year at January 1, after 37 GP, wings were 6th in the WC race one game over 0.500 at 17-16-4 and all the teams ahead of them were well over 0.500 (like 5 games over except the bolts at 3 games over).

The only team ahead of them over 0.500 is the Sens, who currently hold the WC2 spot at 4 games over 0.500, the wings play them 3 more times I think.

Wat too soon to toss in the towel for sure, lots of divisional games to be played yet.

Yup. Which puts us 4 points behind where we were last year at this time. Considering how March went to the end of the year that 4 points is not really a massive difference compared to last year. And those numbers I pointed out where almost identical to what we achieved last January and then February we went 7-3-0 after our January run. It wasn't until Larkin went down again that we collapsed. And as far as I'm concerned that's a coaching issue. We went 3-9-2 in March. A figure that grows to 3-10-2 including the February 29 game. A better coach could have coached us to closer to a .500 record in that time. Even 6-7-2 would have been huge. Hell 4-9-2 and we make playoffs.

Nothing is locked in yet and more than half the season to go.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Still have time to make it interesting, last year at January 1, after 37 GP, wings were 6th in the WC race one game over 0.500 at 17-16-4 and all the teams ahead of them were well over 0.500 (like 5 games over except the bolts at 3 games over).

The only team ahead of them over 0.500 is the Sens, who currently hold the WC2 spot at 4 games over 0.500, the wings play them 3 more times I think.

Way too soon to toss in the towel for sure, lots of divisional games to be played yet.

Yup. Which puts us 4 points behind where we were last year at this time. Considering how March went to the end of the year that 4 points is not really a massive difference compared to last year. And those numbers I pointed out where almost identical to what we achieved last January and then February we went 7-3-0 after our January run. It wasn't until Larkin went down again that we collapsed. And as far as I'm concerned that's a coaching issue. We went 3-9-2 in March. A figure that grows to 3-10-2 including the February 29 game. A better coach could have coached us to closer to a .500 record in that time. Even 6-7-2 would have been huge. Hell 4-9-2 and we make playoffs.

Nothing is locked in yet and more than half the season to go.

This is why I’m for trading this year’s first if we aren’t going to tank. One good player, a solid D that can help this team move the puck up ice, and they can break into the WC.

 

[FMichael]

I’ve been hanging on to this for a while…Yzerman on Christmas Day…

 

[Euro Twins]

This is why I’m for trading this year’s first if we aren’t going to tank. One good player, a solid D that can help this team move the puck up ice, and they can break into the WC.

I'm %100 on board with trading our *protected* top picks for all stars that move the needle if we start to go on a bit of a run. If we start tanking again in the next month, chalk it up to a lost season and a high draft pick.

 

[DamonDRW]

I'm %100 on board with trading our *protected* top picks for all stars that move the needle if we start to go on a bit of a run. If we start tanking again in the next month, chalk it up to a lost season and a high draft pick.

so basically, let's do good things and don't do bad ones?

 

[FMichael]

I'm %100 on board with trading our *protected* top picks for all stars that move the needle if we start to go on a bit of a run. If we start tanking again in the next month, chalk it up to a lost season and a high draft pick.

I get the whole process of rebuilding and having patience, but at the same time unless we’re drafting guaranteed Seider/Eds/RayRays - how long can we (and Larkin) tolerate being mid pack at best?

If there’s a chance at getting ‘better’ via a trade, or two then I’m all for it.

 

[FMichael]

so basically, let's do good things and don't do bad ones?

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

This is why I’m for trading this year’s first if we aren’t going to tank. One good player, a solid D that can help this team move the puck up ice, and they can break into the WC.

The other item to factor in, Larkin has not been everything to the team this year, so if the secondary scoring ticks up due to improved play, if Larkin starts a burner too, then the wings should make out alright.

It would be nice to add a 3/4 D…

 

[Ciao]

I think Yzerman made a good hire.

 

[Gniwder]

I found a new job for Lalonde.

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This guy is an Uncle Fester impersonator that you can hire for parties. Lalonde could do the same.

 

[RRhoads]

I found a new job for Lalonde.

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This guy is an Uncle Fester impersonator that you can hire for parties. Lalonde could do the same.

He might be done with impersonating for a while.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Great to hear him speak compared to Lalonde's saying everything's excellent.

Seems like the team got stuck in Winnipeg for their day off.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Gotta say, after the first game with McLellan I was vocal about and convinced Kane's offense was cooked. He's been almost a new player during this winning streak. Todd clearly has him playing to his strengths and he even appears to chip in defensively here and there

You can hear the way he speaks now as opposed to 2+ weeks ago, way more sure of himself and his offense looks more like it did during last season. That play with Cat almost out of nothing last game was real nifty. Hope we can ride out some more offense from him as we make this playoff push

 

[Lampedampe]

Great to hear him speak compared to Lalonde's saying everything's excellent.

Seems like the team got stuck in Winnipeg for their day off.

Oh no, stuck in Winnipeg for a day gotta be a momentum killer.

 

[Al48]

Great to hear him speak compared to Lalonde's saying everything's excellent.

Seems like the team got stuck in Winnipeg for their day off.

I feel like McLellan could sit and talk hockey and coaching all day. He really carries himself so conversationally in this press conferences.

 

[heyfolks]

Stating the obvious here but getting 3 stars on track is a big deal, and speaks to the failure of the Lalonde era system.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/latest-news/3-red-wings-catching-fire-with-new-coach

 

[newfy]

I was worried the team was gonna be boring playing the trap all the time but its a nice change that a coach can change his tactics mid game. He's trapped late in games with a lead for sure, but they're forechecking hard and playing a fast paced game and getting out to leads before that. WOuld hate to watch a team trap 24/7 but this isnt what a lot of kings fans said it would be

 

[Euro Twins]

I was worried the team was gonna be boring playing the trap all the time but its a nice change that a coach can change his tactics mid game. He's trapped late in games with a lead for sure, but they're forechecking hard and playing a fast paced game and getting out to leads before that. WOuld hate to watch a team trap 24/7 but this isnt what a lot of kings fans said it would be

The kings weren't built to play a faster style of hockey. Also f them. And f the Oilers. Especially f the sharks.

But now that DADDY MAC is back, I like him again. He's cool

 

[jkutswings]

Big thumbs up to the coaching change. Absolutely had to happen. But it's not at all uncommon for a team to have a short term spark - the two factors that really matter are:

1) How do the coaches and players respond long term, especially in moments of adversity with the more difficult upcoming schedule?
2) What does SY do at the deadline?

They don't HAVE to make the playoffs and they don't HAVE to push all their chips into the middle before March 7. But I want to see continued progress and accountability. Maybe a combination of selling guys like Tank and going after a top half of the lineup player under 28, to show that they're going to keep some sort of momentum going with the rebuild, instead of waiting for ALL the kids to be ready before they make any more significant moves.

 

[Winger98]

Big thumbs up to the coaching change. Absolutely had to happen. But it's not at all uncommon for a team to have a short term spark - the two factors that really matter are:

1) How do the coaches and players respond long term, especially in moments of adversity with the more difficult upcoming schedule?
2) What does SY do at the deadline?

They don't HAVE to make the playoffs and they don't HAVE to push all their chips into the middle before March 7. But I want to see continued progress and accountability. Maybe a combination of selling guys like Tank and going after a top half of the lineup player under 28, to show that they're going to keep some sort of momentum going with the rebuild, instead of waiting for ALL the kids to be ready before they make any more significant moves.

maybe something will present itself beforehand, but that feels like an off-season move.

 

[NickH8]

I was worried the team was gonna be boring playing the trap all the time but its a nice change that a coach can change his tactics mid game. He's trapped late in games with a lead for sure, but they're forechecking hard and playing a fast paced game and getting out to leads before that. WOuld hate to watch a team trap 24/7 but this isnt what a lot of kings fans said it would be

It seems McLellan is willing to build the system around the players. He's not some innovative ground breaking coach but he's got enough experience to evaluate he's players strengths and weaknesses and bring the best out of them. He's humble in that way, he recognizes his job is to get the most out of the players, not force the players to make the most out of him

 

[jkutswings]

maybe something will present itself beforehand, but that feels like an off-season move.

Possibly. Since Detroit likely isn't willing to part with the assets Vancouver would need to trade Pettersson, I'm hoping that it's either a 3-team deal or is sets off dominoes for other significant trades in the next month or two.

Root for chaos!

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

Big thumbs up to the coaching change. Absolutely had to happen. But it's not at all uncommon for a team to have a short term spark - the two factors that really matter are:

1) How do the coaches and players respond long term, especially in moments of adversity with the more difficult upcoming schedule?
2) What does SY do at the deadline?

They don't HAVE to make the playoffs and they don't HAVE to push all their chips into the middle before March 7. But I want to see continued progress and accountability. Maybe a combination of selling guys like Tank and going after a top half of the lineup player under 28, to show that they're going to keep some sort of momentum going with the rebuild, instead of waiting for ALL the kids to be ready before they make any more significant moves.

If the team continues to play well (win or lose) showing great chemistry, I can't see SY moving out any of the vets unless they ask to (I can see Husso or Lyons being moved), especially if they are in the thick of things for a spot, as none of them will bring back anything in the way of immediate help. I don't see him reaching for a rental, way too soon for that as well, but he should and likely will pounce on any hockey trade to make the team better if a good deal in his mind presents itself.

Even if the team goes on an absolute tear and exceeds expectations immensely in the next month and half, I cannot see SY going crazy at the TDL, unless some other team makes him an offer he cannot refuse that fits the window.

Next summer...I can see some moves being made.