Post-Game Talk: Wings 4 - Jets 2

MardyBum

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No but they lost him to contract negotiations when the team needs to make tough decisions.

Also did mtl lose kov or does the 3rd pick make all the difference, they got an extra ahler those lucky bums.

Did we lose ajf because of Baron? Baron is such a bum costing us a guy with flowing long hair.

We could have lost Toni because of Kupari. Boo Kupari.

Also they didn’t lose apple because of Stan but they lost him because of every other asset they chose to keep over apples.

We lost Dillion because of Samberg. Boo Samberg. Samberg didn’t just cost us Dillion he cost us the draft picks we used to bring Dillion to wpg.

They lost Ehlers? Pionk? When? Neither has anything to do with eachother. Connor/Ehlers sure you can make that argument.

The rest of your post is some inane attempt to ignore the fact they chose to ride the Stanley train and thought Chisholm and Kovacevic were lesser and dispensable. And unfortunately now they're playing higher in the lineup more regularly on comparable teams and doing it better than your Lord.

At least Samberg will be back soon, surely in his top 4 position :sarcasm:.
 

gojetsgo

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Top line is fine against weaker teams.
Their brutal defensive play exposes them against good teams.
They got burned in playoffs last year and a good chance it will happen again.

Tunnel vision saying they are fine because of the points they are putting up.
With the ice time they get, a two way winger is need on that line.
Monahan had 1 point in last years playoffs. Getting a 2c may not be the answer.
Jets need to look at the big picture and set a playoff lineup.
top line is playing a lot better then it did last year... please post the stats against good teams/weakers teams... I'll wait
 

Buffdog

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Crazy how the same 2 posters who never post anything in PGTs after wins account for half the posts after a loss

I wonder if anyone who is complaining about the Jets having two stretches of games with poor play have bothered to take a look at all the other teams in the top 10 and go through their 10 game splits

The past 5 or 10 games doesn't define a team - good or bad
 

Adam da bomb

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They lost Ehlers? Pionk? When? Neither has anything to do with eachother. Connor/Ehlers sure you can make that argument.

The rest of your post is some inane attempt to ignore the fact they chose to ride the Stanley train and thought Chisholm and Kovacevic were lesser and dispensable. And unfortunately now they're playing higher in the lineup more regularly on comparable teams and doing it better than your Lord.

At least Samberg will be back soon, surely in his top 4 position :sarcasm:.
Chis has 10 pts this season what a lose.
My point is teams make decisions. Kov isn’t even a ld.

And yeah chis and kov might be better has no bearing on Heinola vs Stan other than both were drafted by team.
 
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MardyBum

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pretty sure goals for and against are the real stat, you can even take out the XG idc

notice how I said "take away the top lines crappy start to the season and those numbers are closer to the top then just "good"" but your choosing to ignore that part because it goes against the top line is actually performing well so you can try and defend perffeti's lack of offense

it's actually better to look at these numbers with context...

Goals for and goals against are the real stat?

Well, hmmm.

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Looks like Perfetti isn't doing too bad, by your stats.
 

DRW204

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The list of teams with 6 “top 6” forwards is very short if any at all.
We definitely have 4 in KFC, Schiefele, Nik and Vilardi. Cole’s slumping but will get there. I think the problem is when the complimentary player is the 2C which is our issue. And I’ve been a solid Names backer because he had chemistry with Ehlers it seemed, but man his hands have turned to stone.
When is perfetti not slumping though? Seems like it's been the same convo every month since ~Dec 2023
 

Cotton Eye Joe

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Goals for and goals against are the real stat?

Well, hmmm.

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Looks like Perfetti isn't doing too bad, by
Nice statline.

Goals for and goals against are the real stat?

Well, hmmm.

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Looks like Perfetti isn't doing too bad, by your stats.
Our topline is very pedestrian 5 on 5. Just barely producing more goals than allowing.
Our PP is masking their ordinary production. It does fool some on this board.
 

Buffdog

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@MardyBum what's so funny? How many times have you used P/60 to pump Ehlers?

Crazy how the numbers guys hate it when you use the same stats they use but in a way that says they might be wrong

And in case you missed it, your laughing emoji at peoples posts was discussed in another thread... opinions included "the most immature thing I see on these boards".... lots of sentiment like that

You may want to reconsider... you don't paint yourself in a good light when you do that (not to mention that it's basically a way of saying "I disagree with you but i have no facts to back it up, so I'll just laugh at your opinion")
 
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MardyBum

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Nice statline.


Our topline is very pedestrian 5 on 5. Just barely producing more goals than allowing.
Our PP is masking their ordinary production. It does fool some on this board.

To be fair to the top line, they have been trending good to better, generally. But if that is your top line you need to reconfig the rest of the guys, cause shutdown third line nothing 4th line and "well help with offense shrug" second hasn't been the best solution so far 5v5. Need more guys, wherever in the lineup, producing at a better rate. A couple players scoring above a 2.0 clip is mid. They can't just rely on Helle. He's masked some of the offensive woes so far. They have the PP now, work out some 5v5 offense when needed. (Or trade for it).
 
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gojetsgo

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Goals for and goals against are the real stat?

Well, hmmm.

View attachment 956466

Looks like Perfetti isn't doing too bad, by your stats.
it's almost like you keep ignoring that the top line got off to a shitty start and have greatly improved in the gf% after the 1st 9 games of the season, it's not even like it was a small sample that they improved on, that was a 27 game stretch

anyways I'm done having to explain that to you, keep acting like 4 goals in 29 games is good production and doing everything possible to act like perfetti is giving us anything close to the 1st line, I'll enjoy the 1 last laughing emoji from you...
 

MardyBum

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@MardyBum what's so funny? How many times have you used P/60 to pump Ehlers?

Crazy how the numbers guys hate it when you use the same stats they use but in a way that says they might be wrong

And in case you missed it, your laughing emoji at peoples posts was discussed in another thread... opinions included "the most immature thing I see on these boards".... lots of sentiment like that

You may want to reconsider... you don't paint yourself in a good light when you do that (not to mention that it's basically a way of saying "I disagree with you but i have no facts to back it up, so I'll just laugh at your opinion")

Sorry, I think using years long samples of P/60 for forwards along with line combinations(within a team) matters a bit more than P/60 of 3 dmen for half a season on 3 different teams. It's okay, you were entranced too.

Morrissey still the 3rd best Canadian team dman *sadge*
 

Buffdog

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Sorry, I think using years long samples of P/60 for forwards along with line combinations(within a team) matters a bit more than P/60 of 3 dmen for half a season on 3 different teams. It's okay, you were entranced too.

Morrissey still the 3rd best Canadian team dman *sadge*
Of course you would, because that's how cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias work

You misspelled "Sorry, but I think using a stat in a way that it supports my opinions matters more than using it in a way that might suggest I have to rethink my position"
 
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MardyBum

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it's almost like you keep ignoring that the top line got off to a shitty start and have greatly improved in the gf% after the 1st 9 games of the season, it's not even like it was a small sample that they improved on, that was a 27 game stretch

anyways I'm done having to explain that to you, keep acting like 4 goals in 29 games is good production and doing everything possible to act like perfetti is giving us anything close to the 1st line, I'll enjoy the 1 last laughing emoji from you...

So only the top line gets to cut out games they don't like. Wonder what Perfetti's season looks like if you cut out 9 games of his "struggles" Both this year and last year. 🤔.

No problem! You explained a lot.

Of course you would, because that's how cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias work

You misspelled "Sorry, but I think using a stat in a way that it supports my opinions matters more than using it in a way that might suggest I have to rethink my position"

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