Windsor Spitfires 2023-24 Offseason Thread (Part 3)

[Cherrydon]

Nhl reinstated Joel Quennville and Stan Bowman today

 

[punch1943]

Nhl reinstated Joel Quennville and Stan Bowman today

About time!

 

[OHL4Life]

Let's see where they go from here. The previous talk was that Walters was suspended for a disagreement with staff regarding a player having a head injury. I don't recall where I read that, may have even been on here. However, having dealt with head injuries in the past, it's not something I take lightly. IF it's Walters, I'm skeptical but hoping that he's remorseful and has changed. It's very much going to be a "play it by ear" scenario for me. IF it's not Walters, then... all bets are off.

that’s the just but much worse with regards to comments and threats.

I will say this, tomorrow he will say he’s changed and looking for a fresh start, etc, but this isn’t a ‘well he said it, it must be true’ situation by far, we can’t just take what they say at face value.

confirmed my previous posts, he was hired before the suspension and they’ve moved the contract back to start now.

bowler hired him a few weeks after smith was fired and the plan was he’d be behind the bench at that point.

is what it is but let’s not say it was an extensive coaching search.

 

[windsor7]

that’s the just but much worse with regards to comments and threats.

I will say this, tomorrow he will say he’s changed and looking for a fresh start, etc, but this isn’t a ‘well he said it, it must be true’ situation by far, we can’t just take what they say at face value.

confirmed my previous posts, he was hired before the suspension and they’ve moved the contract back to start now.

bowler hired him a few weeks after smith was fired and the plan was he’d be behind the bench at that point.

is what it is but let’s not say it was an extensive coaching search.

Was no search..

 

[OHLTG]

I will say this, tomorrow he will say he’s changed and looking for a fresh start, etc, but this isn’t a ‘well he said it, it must be true’ situation by far, we can’t just take what they say at face value.

There's going to be healthy skepticism and rightfully so. Actions speak louder than words with me and you need to prove that you've changed.

 

[ohloutsider]

I don't doubt that most posters on here are concerned about this hire, I know I am. But wondering out loud what the " average " fan will think about this hire? I don't follow Facebook but maybe someone on here can get a feel for the reaction from that group and update us? Thanks for your time if you do this.

 

[OHL4Life]

I don't doubt that most posters on here are concerned about this hire, I know I am. But wondering out loud what the " average " fan will think about this hire? I don't follow Facebook but maybe someone on here can get a feel for the reaction from that group and update us? Thanks for your time if you do this.

I doubt most will know or care

 

[OHL 17]

Quenneville reinstated ......maybe he is the BB surprise coach

Just ask Walters

 

[tomschman]

I don't like to comment on speculation of what happened with Walters and another staff member regarding a head injury. However, every scenario that I can think of would have the Head Coach wanting the player to play and that doesn't sit well.

We are dealing with high level teenage hockey players. Almost every player will say they are fine and want to play. That is the way they are wired. A cautious medical staff is required, and the Coach MUST back the medical staff.

 

[Teflon]

Listen if Quenville comes here ill be doing cartwheels!!! Highly doubt it lol. He is a home town guy.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

I don't doubt that most posters on here are concerned about this hire, I know I am. But wondering out loud what the " average " fan will think about this hire? I don't follow Facebook but maybe someone on here can get a feel for the reaction from that group and update us? Thanks for your time if you do this.

yeah I agree percent. I've never ever been a fan of Bowler the guy couldn't even build a good Jr.B team and was a complete jerk how he treated the players when he was GM and coach with the Vipers. I think it's time The Savages sell the team to true Hockey owners that actually care about the team and fans and a true GM

There was a discussion on one board. Trying to find it again but this was one comment.

 

[Cherrydon]

From what I gathered it wasn't Walters arguing about a player's condition/availability it was he was physical with said employee. That's not cool. Fingers crossed if it is him as expected he has learned a valuable lesson never to be repeated. Bullying staff or a player is not acceptable in 2024 ever.

 

[punch1943]

Listen if Quenville comes here ill be doing cartwheels!!! Highly doubt it lol. He is a home town guy.

Sounded as if QUENNEVILLE has to wait until July 10th but perhaps that is only for an NHL job. Only way I caould see him here is if he became owner/part owner.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

From what I gathered it wasn't Walters arguing about a player's condition/availability it was he was physical with said employee. That's not cool. Fingers crossed if it is him as expected he has learned a valuable lesson never to be repeated. Bullying staff or a player is not acceptable in 2024 ever.

Usually in situations like this it has probably happened before. Just the first time he got caught. An old university prof told our class once if you went to see an apartment and you see a cock roach. Do you think there's only one or are there are more where they came from?

 

[OHLTG]

I can't see it being Quenneville. You don't go from being an NHL HC for 20 seasons to the Spitfires without some kind of stake in the team... and I haven't heard about tomorrow being anything other than HC spot.

 

[windsor7]

Sounded as if QUENNEVILLE has to wait until July 10th but perhaps that is only for an NHL job. Only way I caould see him here is if he became owner/part owner.

Have to open those tight purse strings

 

[Cherrydon]

Usually in situations like this it has probably happened before. Just the first time he got caught. An old university prof told our class once if you went to see an apartment and you see a cock roach. Do you think there's only one or are there are more where they came from?

That's my fear lol

 

[frontsfan67]

From what I gathered it wasn't Walters arguing about a player's condition/availability it was he was physical with said employee. That's not cool. Fingers crossed if it is him as expected he has learned a valuable lesson never to be repeated. Bullying staff or a player is not acceptable in 2024 ever.

LOL that’s ridiculous. Guy needs to learn how to control himself.

I’m not even a spitfires fan but goddamn I hope you don’t get this guy lmao how is he getting another chance? If it was the other employee hitting Walter’s I’m sure that employee wouldn’t get that chance again.

 

[Millpond]

Usually in situations like this it has probably happened before. Just the first time he got caught. An old university prof told our class once if you went to see an apartment and you see a cock roach. Do you think there's only one or are there are more where they came from?

There is not 1 person in Grey who is upset about losing the former coach(ing) staff.
That is all.

 

[OHLTG]

Do we know it was physical or was it verbal? I've heard both now and there's a big difference between the two.

 

[cruickshankd]

Trdes

 

[OHL4Life]

I don't like to comment on speculation of what happened with Walters and another staff member regarding a head injury. However, every scenario that I can think of would have the Head Coach wanting the player to play and that doesn't sit well.

correct, the trainer was talking a player off the ice with a head issue and walters verbally attacked him for doing it. i think it went further then that but i have no information.

 

[OHL4Life]

LOL that’s ridiculous. Guy needs to learn how to control himself.

I’m not even a spitfires fan but goddamn I hope you don’t get this guy lmao how is he getting another chance? If it was the other employee hitting Walter’s I’m sure that employee wouldn’t get that chance again.

thats my question, hes not that great of a coach to put your neck on the line for.

problem was they hired him before the league stepped in (but it was known what he did), it was mid season and bowler was desperate. i think that most of the time if there is a league suspension like this, teams put an opt out clause that allow them to teminate an aggrement, but i dont know if that was the case here or if bowler would have even done it.

it seems like it was a hire out of convenience vs the best hire, but im speculating on it. if he wasnt hired in november, i dont think he would still be hired now.

 

[Cherrydon]

Has anyone seen a post from the Spitfires regarding the press conference today? Other than Manny Paivas tweet 3 days ago or so? Normally you see a join us live on Facebook or something.

 

[ktownfan]

OHL4life is right, trainer didn't want a player to go on the ice because of a cut lip. Minor in the scheme of things. Player wanted to go on, Walters definitely wanted him to go on. This was the tipping point, and let to the firing. There is so much more,
Windsor, get ready for alot of yelling on the bench, although he will be on his best behavior for a while, but a leopard can't change his spots.