William Nylander

[ACC1224]

I know what plus minus is. A not so great stat overall. Matthews still only got 2 goals. Not near enough.

It's not enough and he's been a huge disappointment but it's still better than 4 if you give up 6.

 

[ZEBROA]

Berube about Tkchick threating Nylander "Nr 88. He probably didnt hear him. He doesen't hear me"

 

[ruaware41]

And yet they have played the 2 Selke finalists against Matthews Knies and Marner more than anyone else this series.

By a factor of 2:1


Damn, yet again it seems like feelings and facts don't quite line up.

do this comparison for games 1&2 combined and games 3&4 combined and share it here. I would be interested in seeing the results.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I really think he and Knies will have big games tomorrow. They've produced consistently and you could see at the end of last game how both guys are in their zones heading into Game 5.



Nylander too cool for school, couldn't give two shits what Tkachuk is yapping about. While Knies is defending his teammates again, itching to battle and being fearless.

 

[Menzinger]

I really think he and Knies will have big games tomorrow. They've produced consistently and you could see at the end of last game how both guys are in their zones heading into Game 5.



Nylander too cool for school, couldn't give two shits what Tkachuk is yapping about. While Knies is defending his teammates again, itching to battle and being fearless.

They will be the two the team turns to to lead things tomorrow. I expect big games from the pair too

 

[stickty111]

I really think he and Knies will have big games tomorrow. They've produced consistently and you could see at the end of last game how both guys are in their zones heading into Game 5.



Nylander too cool for school, couldn't give two shits what Tkachuk is yapping about. While Knies is defending his teammates again, itching to battle and being fearless.

WIlly is like "you are going to chirp me of all people?"
These 2 will show up and have done their part. Can Marner and Matthews win us a game for once?

 

[arso40]

WIlly is like "you are going to chirp me of all people?"
These 2 will show up and have done their part. Can Marner and Matthews win us a game for once?

We shall see

 

[Aashir]

I really think he and Knies will have big games tomorrow. They've produced consistently and you could see at the end of last game how both guys are in their zones heading into Game 5.



Nylander too cool for school, couldn't give two shits what Tkachuk is yapping about. While Knies is defending his teammates again, itching to battle and being fearless.

f*** it put the two of them together

who gives a shit who the center is we have home ice and can give them all the favourable matchups

I'd kill for marner to be a C rn, those three on a line would do disgusting things together I think

 

[notDatsyuk]

f*** it put the two of them together

who gives a shit who the center is we have home ice and can give them all the favourable matchups

I'd kill for marner to be a C rn, those three on a line would do disgusting things together I think

That would be an interesting line, but Willy would have to be the C.

 

[arso40]

f*** it put the two of them together

who gives a shit who the center is we have home ice and can give them all the favourable matchups

I'd kill for marner to be a C rn, those three on a line would do disgusting things together I think

How about nylander on Matthews wing with Knies it’s usually good at the beginning of the year when marner and Matthews aren’t gelling usually gets Matthews going I think they would kill Florida no matter who’s on the ice

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

How about nylander on Matthews wing with Knies it’s usually good at the beginning of the year when marner and Matthews aren’t gelling usually gets Matthews going I think they would kill Florida no matter who’s on the ice

Is there any truth to Matthews demanding he play with Marner?

 

[arso40]

Is there any truth to Matthews demanding he play with Marner?

Maybe or maybe every coach thinks there the best fit but I doubt it I know Matthews likes playing with domi too so who knows Willy is probably a different story though

 

[Gary Nylund]

They will be the two the team turns to to lead things tomorrow. I expect big games from the pair too

The fact that we're expecting Nylander/Knies to lead the way tomorrow speaks volumes about how disappointing M&M have been.

 

[Mess]

The fact that we're expecting Nylander/Knies to lead the way tomorrow speaks volumes about how disappointing M&M have been.

I certainly am hitching my wagon hopes to Willy and Matty Knies to come through big tonight.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I certainly am hitching my wagon hopes to Willy and Matty Knies to come through big tonight.

Those 2 guys will need to both BEAST tonight .. and a little extra help coming from Scott Laughton too .. our G and D must grind it out for 60 minute too .. no mistake game .. if we play no mistakes for game 5 we will win it

 

[Aashir]

He needs to show up tonight

We need him to if we want a chance to win

 

[Tak7]

Slightly different territory for Willy tonight.

In the past, he's almost been in the background / shadows of 34 and 16, just quietly outproducing them.

Now it feels like he's THE GUY that has to show up and drive them to a win.

Hoping for a strong Willy night. If he's flying early, it'll at least give Maurice something to think about with matchups. Think it's important Berube keeps JT-Willy away from Barkov tonight.

 

[sunstersun]

Slightly different territory for Willy tonight.

In the past, he's almost been in the background / shadows of 34 and 16, just quietly outproducing them.

Now it feels like he's THE GUY that has to show up and drive them to a win.

Hoping for a strong Willy night. If he's flying early, it'll at least give Maurice something to think about with matchups. Think it's important Berube keeps JT-Willy away from Barkov tonight.

It's almost impossible for Willy to carry a carousel of left wingers and a slow Tavares. Let's be real, Bob was also off his game. I give Willy fully credit this series. I think he's played as well as you can given him facing the toughest matchups so out gunned teammate wise. He's matching against their top shutdown line and D with a vet min winger......

Tavares just doesn't fit Nylander. If he wants to take like 4-5mil to play 3c for 3 years sure, maybe.

 

[Tak7]

It's almost impossible for Willy to carry a carousel of left wingers and a slow Tavares. Let's be real, Bob was also off his game. I give Willy fully credit this series. I think he's played as well as you can given him facing the toughest matchups so out gunned teammate wise. He's matching against their top shutdown line and D with a vet min winger......

Tavares just doesn't fit Nylander. If he wants to take like 4-5mil to play 3c for 3 years sure, maybe.

He's done it for quite some time now, completely unfazed.

 

[sxvnert]

Willy would be 1000X better with a playmaking center who could match his speed.

 

[Aashir]

Willy would be 1000X better with a playmaking center who could match his speed.

he would be, but he doesn't have that

He has Tavares, and Patches/Domi/McMann and he has to make it work

not saying you are, but we gotta stop with all the blame being deflected onto his linemates

Nylander had 98 points last season with those linemates, Nylander had 15 in 9 with those linemates. He can easily put up another multi point game because he and the linemates are good together. When it isn't working, it isn't just JT or LW whoevers fault, it's also Nylanders. He stops skating, pushing play, and just doing anything over the average.

it's just like blaming marner or matthews for each others shortcomings. They are both at fault, and no swapping domi with marner wouldn't change much because it's within 34 and 16 the problems, not the 34-16 line that's at fault

Marner is an awful goal scorer and shot selector, and is afraid of the front of the net. I don't care if it's because he's less effective down there, it could be a wide open net with knies being double teamed but marner wouldn't be anywhere near the puck because he's waiting near the boards or the point

Matthews just doesn't have that alpha gene. He isn't the guy to lead a team and come through in the big moments. He isn't as good of a goalscorer as we think and has serious injury issues.

their flaws are within themselves, not because of others.

 

[arso40]

he would be, but he doesn't have that

He has Tavares, and Patches/Domi/McMann and he has to make it work

not saying you are, but we gotta stop with all the blame being deflected onto his linemates

Nylander had 98 points last season with those linemates, Nylander had 15 in 9 with those linemates. He can easily put up another multi point game because he and the linemates are good together. When it isn't working, it isn't just JT or LW whoevers fault, it's also Nylanders. He stops skating, pushing play, and just doing anything over the average.

it's just like blaming marner or matthews for each others shortcomings. They are both at fault, and no swapping domi with marner wouldn't change much because it's within 34 and 16 the problems, not the 34-16 line that's at fault

Marner is an awful goal scorer and shot selector, and is afraid of the front of the net. I don't care if it's because he's less effective down there, it could be a wide open net with knies being double teamed but marner wouldn't be anywhere near the puck because he's waiting near the boards or the point

Matthews just doesn't have that alpha gene. He isn't the guy to lead a team and come through in the big moments. He isn't as good of a goalscorer as we think and has serious injury issues.

their flaws are within themselves, not because of others.

The only difference in what your comparing is one is full of top tier players the other is a top tier player elevating his line both are not comparable at all

 

[sunstersun]

he would be, but he doesn't have that

He has Tavares, and Patches/Domi/McMann and he has to make it work

not saying you are, but we gotta stop with all the blame being deflected onto his linemates

Nylander had 98 points last season with those linemates, Nylander had 15 in 9 with those linemates. He can easily put up another multi point game because he and the linemates are good together. When it isn't working, it isn't just JT or LW whoevers fault, it's also Nylanders. He stops skating, pushing play, and just doing anything over the average.

it's just like blaming marner or matthews for each others shortcomings. They are both at fault, and no swapping domi with marner wouldn't change much because it's within 34 and 16 the problems, not the 34-16 line that's at fault

Marner is an awful goal scorer and shot selector, and is afraid of the front of the net. I don't care if it's because he's less effective down there, it could be a wide open net with knies being double teamed but marner wouldn't be anywhere near the puck because he's waiting near the boards or the point

Matthews just doesn't have that alpha gene. He isn't the guy to lead a team and come through in the big moments. He isn't as good of a goalscorer as we think and has serious injury issues.

their flaws are within themselves, not because of others.

I think you're expecting too much from a guy who is going in undermanned.

I expect Willy to produce with Tavares and a the carousel. He does it with Kerfoot, he does it with everyone. That's not the issue nor the lack of expectations.

I'm not an idiot, I know Willy is a RW 1 money playing RW2, so it's unrealistic to expect the best linemates. However, it's unfair that the 35mil line is also getting easier matchups on top of being a 35mil line.

Hence, my point Willy with just a decent chemistry center and a ok LW2 would be fine facing shutdown lines with shutdown d pairs. I just think the combination of being outgunned and versus shutdown line is too much.

The first line facing worse competition is throwing the series. I don't know what to expect tonight. Bob is back to elite form as well.

 

[Aashir]

The only difference in what your comparing is one is full of top tier players the other is a top tier player elevating his line both are not comparable at all

tbh i don't care what it is or was

whatever it is/was needs to continue to happen

 

[Aashir]

I think you're expecting too much from a guy who is going in undermanned.

I expect Willy to produce with Tavares and a the carousel. He does it with Kerfoot, he does it with everyone. That's not the issue nor the lack of expectations.

I'm not an idiot, I know Willy is a RW 1 money playing RW2, so it's unrealistic to expect the best linemates. However, it's unfair that the 35mil line is also getting easier matchups on top of being a 35mil line.

Hence, my point Willy with just a decent chemistry center and a ok LW2 would be fine facing shutdown lines with shutdown d pairs. I just think the combination of being outgunned and versus shutdown line is too much.

The first line facing worse competition is throwing the series. I don't know what to expect tonight. Bob is back to elite form as well.

I don't think it's unreasonable to say nylander could have a better geling C, but hes found a way to produce at a superstar level for 8 games and he should be able to continue to do that. We also just don't have a better fitting C so it is what it is,

I also think nylander has the ability to adapt to JT as he has for a few years now, gonna need him to continue working it out with him

I do agree that the first line is costing us, but I place a lot of that on 34 for not doing his main job.